Giant Bomb Bomb-All

farley3k wrote:

is there a game they like?

Mario Party

farley3k wrote:

I am watching their Quick Look at Rage 2, and I have watched a few other videos of their's. And I have to ask - is there a game they like?

It always seems to be kind of jaded guys talking about games with little enthusiasm.

Recently there's SteamWorld Quest: Hand of Gilgamech, Mortal Kombat 11, Baba is You, Hypnospace Outlaw, Devil May Cry 5, Ape Out, and Resident Evil 2 Remake come to mind. They like A LOT of games but Jeff, who lead that particular Quick Look, tends to be harder to please. It's a very personality driven website and each person has their particular likes and dislikes.

Super Mario Maker 2 is gonna be so fun.

farley3k wrote:

I am watching their Quick Look at Rage 2, and I have watched a few other videos of their's. And I have to ask - is there a game they like?

It always seems to be kind of jaded guys talking about games with little enthusiasm.

If you want enthusiasm you need to watch them talk about old games they grew up playing... or just watch east coast content. I exaggerate but the new games they do tend to get excited about on the West coast are generally genres I dislike.

Or perhaps don't use a game that seems to be universally eliciting hearty shrugs as the gauge for their enthusiasm.

They recently released some videos as a "Premium Unlock" to drive new subscriptions. One of them was for Totally Accurate Battle Simulator, which I think is one they obviously like.

The GTA V heist series is pretty damn impressive. I'm at episode 2 already. I can see why it took them forever to cut all the captured video together.

...I'm already dreading GotY.

Like Russell, I'd love to see more avant garde games, but every Death Stranding thing so far has elicited a sigh and "...yeah, sure, whatever." out of me.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

...I'm already dreading GotY.

Like Russell, I'd love to see more avant garde games, but every Death Stranding thing so far has elicited a sigh and "...yeah, sure, whatever." out of me.

Yeah, Dan's fanboy ranting about Death Stranding and MGS on the latest Beastcast just made me cringe. It's going to be RDR2 all over again, with a few seats switched.

I’ve been more put off by how dismissive Abby has been of a lot of things. It’s a pretty recent development.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

...I'm already dreading GotY.

Like Russell, I'd love to see more avant garde games, but every Death Stranding thing so far has elicited a sigh and "...yeah, sure, whatever." out of me.

It took me a second to figure out if Russell was some in-joke and then I realized it's Abby.

bnpederson wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

...I'm already dreading GotY.

Like Russell, I'd love to see more avant garde games, but every Death Stranding thing so far has elicited a sigh and "...yeah, sure, whatever." out of me.

Yeah, Dan's fanboy ranting about Death Stranding and MGS on the latest Beastcast just made me cringe. It's going to be RDR2 all over again, with a few seats switched.

Dan will charge fullsteam ahead for anything Kojima, because it's Kojima. He may not understand it, he may not care to dissect the game more than "it's cool guy stuff and things", but he will do it. And it will be frustrating, because they keep playing Dan's game. It will be 30 minutes of him going "but it was so fun and cool!"

It's like a weaker written Brad defense of Destiny.

Vrikk wrote:
bnpederson wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

...I'm already dreading GotY.

Like Russell, I'd love to see more avant garde games, but every Death Stranding thing so far has elicited a sigh and "...yeah, sure, whatever." out of me.

Yeah, Dan's fanboy ranting about Death Stranding and MGS on the latest Beastcast just made me cringe. It's going to be RDR2 all over again, with a few seats switched.

Dan will charge fullsteam ahead for anything Kojima, because it's Kojima. He may not understand it, he may not care to dissect the game more than "it's cool guy stuff and things", but he will do it. And it will be frustrating, because they keep playing Dan's game. It will be 30 minutes of him going "but it was so fun and cool!"

It's like a weaker written Brad defense of Destiny.

Keep :clap: politics :clap: out :clap: of :clap: metal :clap: gear :clap:

That part of the Beastcast just solidified how f*cking dumb Dan is. He didn't think that his favorite series of all time was about politics, and had overtly political tones and throughlines.

Someone who has admittedly played the games multiple times over.

Idiot.

I mean, there's some Dan culpability for sure, but if a game is truly awful in more ways than one (e.g. Kojima's rampant sexism) there needs to be some blame laid at the feet of the people who capitulated.

One of those editors needs to say, "Being fun and interesting isn't good enough. If you want to ignore all of the sexist nonsense when you sit down to play it at home, that's your business. But the world isn't in a very good place right now with these kinds of issues, and as an outlet, we need to take a step back and look carefully at what we amplify. If we put sexist bullsh*t into our annual "best of" list, what is that saying?"

But if they're just going to roll over because of persistence (Brad, I'm looking at you and your bullsh*t Destiny nuclear option) that doesn't speak very well of their editorial process or credibility.

NSMike wrote:

But if they're just going to roll over because of persistence (Brad, I'm looking at you and your bullsh*t Destiny nuclear option) that doesn't speak very well of their editorial process or credibility.

It's a war of attrition, and I can see Dan easily getting Death Stranding on the list simply because the rest of the crew wants him to shut up. It's like the infamous Destiny Defense but less articulate.

(This is assuming that Death Stranding isn't a good game, or is a good game but the story makes no f*cking sense so the rest of the group doesn't really enjoy it since they have no idea why they are even playing. My bet is on the latter.)

It's pretty impressive that this thread can debate Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender and Giant Bomb's reasoning for supporting and opposing its inclusion on the GOTY list when the game isn't even out yet and none of the staff has actually played it or had a chance to express an informed opinion about it

mrlogical wrote:

It's pretty impressive that this thread can debate Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender and Giant Bomb's reasoning for supporting and opposing its inclusion on the GOTY list when the game isn't even out yet and none of the staff has actually played it or had a chance to express an informed opinion about it :)

That’s either an indictment of this thread or Giant Bomb.

Mark my words: Brad's defense of Destiny 3 will be unforgivable.

I've been a Ryckert apologist for years. His affable idiot character (IS IT?) has a place and leads to some good jokes.

But I reached my limit with that podcast after what feels like hour 27 of Kojima love from him this calendar year.

In his defense, I think if Death Stranding isn't good, he won't die on that hill. But his criteria may simply be he doesn't like how it plays (see RDR2).

I'm looking forward to cutting my Dan time down to e3 and goty. That's probably the right amount of Dan.

I'll miss you Vinny, Abby, and Alex.

DSGamer wrote:
mrlogical wrote:

It's pretty impressive that this thread can debate Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender and Giant Bomb's reasoning for supporting and opposing its inclusion on the GOTY list when the game isn't even out yet and none of the staff has actually played it or had a chance to express an informed opinion about it :)

That’s either an indictment of this thread or Giant Bomb.

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mrlogical wrote:

It's pretty impressive that this thread can debate Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender and Giant Bomb's reasoning for supporting and opposing its inclusion on the GOTY list when the game isn't even out yet and none of the staff has actually played it or had a chance to express an informed opinion about it :)

We're just preempting it now so in December we can just quote what we already said. Saves time!

Let's be real, unless the game is absolute and utter trash, it will absolutely be at least discussed, if not a main contender for one of the categories.

mrlogical wrote:

It's pretty impressive that this thread can debate Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender and Giant Bomb's reasoning for supporting and opposing its inclusion on the GOTY list when the game isn't even out yet and none of the staff has actually played it or had a chance to express an informed opinion about it :)

But no one's talking about Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender. We're talking about Dan's absolute and demonstrated Kojima fanboy-ism as well as and past examples where one person's obsessive love for a game has led to hours-long stalemates during the GOTY discussion.

Death Stranding could be anywhere from incomprehensibly terrible to gloriously revelatory and I'd still be willing to bet Dan will defend it to an absurd degree. Whether that means getting it on the GOTY list at all, getting it to the TOP of the GOTY list, or trying to keep it off one of the Most Disappointing categories is immaterial to the feeling of "Oh Jesus Christ, this bit will be a sh*t show."

Delerat wrote:

It took me a second to figure out if Russell was some in-joke and then I realized it's Abby.

That's my foible, it just seems more respectful since there's already a need to differentiate Gerstmann from Bakalar.

I'm glad others found "It's not about politics, it's about (the political act of) war!" really bone-headed, because....yeah, Jesus...

bnpederson wrote:
mrlogical wrote:

It's pretty impressive that this thread can debate Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender and Giant Bomb's reasoning for supporting and opposing its inclusion on the GOTY list when the game isn't even out yet and none of the staff has actually played it or had a chance to express an informed opinion about it :)

But no one's talking about Death Stranding's worth as a GOTY contender. We're talking about Dan's absolute and demonstrated Kojima fanboy-ism as well as and past examples where one person's obsessive love for a game has led to hours-long stalemates during the GOTY discussion.

Death Stranding could be anywhere from incomprehensibly terrible to gloriously revelatory and I'd still be willing to bet Dan will defend it to an absurd degree. Whether that means getting it on the GOTY list at all, getting it to the TOP of the GOTY list, or trying to keep it off one of the Most Disappointing categories is immaterial to the feeling of "Oh Jesus Christ, this bit will be a sh*t show."

I would say these awards are largely meaningless so I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape over them. If it's just about dragging down the quality of the podcasts for a week of conversations you don't really enjoy then it would seem there would be an obvious solution to that. I skipped half of them myself last year when they lingered on conversations I didn't really care about.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I'm glad others found "It's not about politics, it's about (the political act of) war!" really bone-headed, because....yeah, Jesus...

The "I didn't think it was political because it isn't about real people" this last Beastcast wasn't much better.

JeremyK wrote:

I would say these awards are largely meaningless so I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape over them. If it's just about dragging down the quality of the podcasts for a week of conversations you don't really enjoy then it would seem there would be an obvious solution to that. I skipped half of them myself last year when they lingered on conversations I didn't really care about.

If we're only going to talk about meaningful things we should lock down this thread and most of this board.

Dan is too dumb to make any sort of cohesive argument on his own that others won't brush off and tell him to sit in the corner. Especially if he has no support.

Besides, Death Stranding will be deceivingly light on story and character and most be a Norman Reedus model slowly walking through a barren open-world. Dan is under the impression that Sony gave him unlimited money while Jeff stated on the Bombcast that isn't true and this game has a decently modest budget with a timeline. Kojima has to make good on this game in order to command a larger investment on his next.

bnpederson wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I'm glad others found "It's not about politics, it's about (the political act of) war!" really bone-headed, because....yeah, Jesus...

The "I didn't think it was political because it isn't about real people" this last Beastcast wasn't much better.

At the same time, this sort of thinking is so widespread, I can barely hold it against him.

See, we're discussing the poor understanding of "politics" in wider culture. Serious business. Also, this isn't sarcasm, I mean it.

I mean really, there's multiple meanings when people say politics. Dan is essentially saying that he realized there were literal political things in it like government, politicians, war, but less that there was a specific political message in it. Still kinda dumb, but not everyone goes into every piece of media looking at the meaning. I doubt the majority of people going out to see action movies are thinking about the subtle messages in those films, they want funny lines and big explosions and there's nothing wrong with that.

Dan does need to put some more thought into the issues in some of the media he's into though, like the weird creepy sexism in MGS.