Giant Bomb Bomb-All

I know everyone deep-dove into Destiny 2, but man it seems like they were all SUPER cold on it like .5 seconds after beating the Raid. Feels like it's been mentioned with a tone of disdain ever since. Maybe grinding out the Raid really put them off?

Won't be shocked if it ultimately does make the list, but man I've never seen them turn so hard on a game before.

That raid is perhaps the deepest example of abusive game design I have ever seen in a mass-market game, including trapdoor-fight MMO raids, so I'm not surprised it left bad tastes in their mouths.

And even all that said, they've all said they'll go play the expansions.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Vector wrote:

1) PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS
2) Super Mario Odyssey
3) Zelda: Breath of the Wild
4) Destiny 2
5) Cuphead
6) Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
7) NieR: Automata
8) Horizon Zero Dawn
9) Assassin's Creed: Origins
10) Pyre

That's my prediction. I'm not very confident on AC: Origins, Pyre, and Horizon and those spots are almost always replaced with someone's baby. NitW, Splatoon 2, and Tacoma seem like good candidates.

I'm thinking Zelda will end up higher than Super Mario. The only person who was really high on it was Dan, and he was also high on Zelda.

I'm also wondering if Abby is gonna choose Dream Daddy as her last stand. I do think HZD is gonna get on there somewhere over Assassin's Creed. Jeff gave that a 5 star review. My hope is that they don't put Destiny 2 on there to make room for good games. I'm afraid Brad will fight for that one, unfortunately.

I tend to think when two games are close whichever game Jeff liked more will end up higher. Seems to work out that way.

They played the raid in a way that no normal player should or would in multiple respects, and it went predictably bad. That kind of thing can easily sour most people on an experience real quick, regardless of what came before.

Anyway, I'd love to see them acknowledge it higher on the list for all the things it does well (I generally seem to like the game more than most) and for the amount of time that they DID enjoy the game (after all, they enjoyed it enough to decide to try doing the raid). But, I also would be quite unsurprised to see land in the lower half of the list or maybe even somehow get the boot due to some manifestation of the usual shenanigans.

Either way, I too am most looking forward to seeing how things go down with Destiny and Nier. Should be quite an interesting series of podcasts!

Tbh GB goty makes me want to argue with people. GWJ’s is fun but just personal lists.

Doing a comparison to come up with a collective list sounds great.

Or doing a meta conversation about where GB lands sounds just stupid enough to be fun.

I enjoy the deliberations 95% time, only souring on them when it gets personal and the knives come out over a single Overall GOTY pick.

Looking at you, Brad.

This ugliness never seems to come out in any of the other categories. The individual categories feel way more care-free and fun.

The worst discussion of all time was the Best DLC argument between Brad and Vinny over Minerva's Den and Lair of the Shadow Broker. It's one of the few segments I just can't listen to.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
Vector wrote:

I feel NieR will be on the list but lower due to everyone agreeing that the story goes places but takes a long time to get there and no one enjoyed playing it.

I'm also pretty sure it will end up on the list (unlike GWJ's ) As to where, I have no idea, although I agree it'll probably be lower. It may end up a little higher than I'd predict just because I think most of them do have a certain amount of respect for it. Brad left his opinion out on the last Bombcast, so I'm not sure where he falls.

I think NieR and Destiny 2 have me most excited for the discussions just because I have no idea where they'll land.

Nier not making it into the top 5 either on GB or on here would make me very sad. Having something like Cuphead being put above it will make me even sadder.

PUBG I don't think I'll ever really understand the appeal of, since I have no friends and don't play online, so I'm already preparing myself for it to be GOTY. I guess I should go into our thread and put in my list with just Nier and Hellblade on it, just so I can say I did.

I will go with a bold prediction:

1. Zelda
2. Nier
3. PUBG
4. Mario

I think Dan goes on Mario Maker levels of monologue about Zelda, and I think everybody else seemed to really like it as well.

Everybody seemed to really like Nier, and there were are a few who LOVE it like Alex and I think Ben.

PUBG is in the Hitman spot, but I don't think it quite hits that level, the person who seems to have played it the most is Dan, and he will put it below Zelda for sure.

Well, here's my prediction I guess. I think I've got the games figured out pretty well, but the order is... difficult. I may revise after today's Bombcast. They sometimes hint at stuff.

1) PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS
2) Zelda: Breath of the Wild
3) Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
4) Super Mario Odyssey
5) Cuphead
6) NieR: Automata
7) Horizon: Zero Dawn
8) Yakuza 0
9) Destiny 2
10) Dream Daddy

I'm preparing myself for disappointment/disagreement. But that's basically par for the course when your taste in games doesn't line up with most people.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Well, here's my prediction I guess. I think I've got the games figured out pretty well, but the order is... difficult. I may revise after today's Bombcast. They sometimes hint at stuff.

1) PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS
2) Zelda: Breath of the Wild
3) Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
4) Super Mario Odyssey
5) Cuphead
6) NieR: Automata
7) Horizon: Zero Dawn
8) Yakuza 0
9) Destiny 2
10) Dream Daddy

That list seems pretty legit to me. Maybe Nier above Cuphead, or Wolfenstein below Mario? But I bet you will be close there.

I don't know that I can understand a person who would put Cuphead above Nier. Or Wolfenstein 2. Or definitely PUBG.

Chaz wrote:

I don't know that I can understand a person who would put Cuphead above Nier. Or Wolfenstein 2. Or definitely PUBG.

I'm lowering my expectations as much as I can so I'm not disappointed if it only gets in the bottom half.

Chaz wrote:

I'm preparing myself for disappointment/disagreement. But that's basically par for the course when your taste in games doesn't line up with most people.

On the flip side I haven't played any of the games circling around most 2017 Best Of nominations and I'm finding it liberating as hell. Well, I did play the outlier nom Divinity: Original Sin 2 and quite enjoyed it, but it ultimately didn't make my final cut.

Point is that I liken it to watching the Superbowl. As a Boston native and a Pats fan in general, watching their repeated appearances have made the Big Show miserable for me during the Brady era. Nothing but self-induced panic attacks, sitting on the edge of my seat feeling like I'm going to either throw up or have a heart attack from one play to the next.

Conversely, it's pretty awesome not having a horse in the race. I know none of my picks for GOTY have a chance in hell ranking so there's no pressure. Nothing to take personal as my attention and affections are focused elsewhere.

I'm still curious over the final results, but feel way more relaxed in just enjoying the rollout with no skin in the game.

No way Wolfenstein gets that high. They turned me away from looking into it by repeatedly talking about how average/bad the actual gameplay is designed. Story alone doesn't usually make it too far in their rankings, iirc.

Blind_Evil wrote:

No way Wolfenstein gets that high. They turned me away from looking into it by repeatedly talking about how average/bad the actual gameplay is designed. Story alone doesn't usually make it too far in their rankings, iirc.

This is the best h*ckin' story in videogames. I think that'll matter.

Ed Ropple wrote:
Blind_Evil wrote:

No way Wolfenstein gets that high. They turned me away from looking into it by repeatedly talking about how average/bad the actual gameplay is designed. Story alone doesn't usually make it too far in their rankings, iirc.

This is the best h*ckin' story in videogames. I think that'll matter.

I agree that'll matter... for Best Moment, or Best Story or some other award like that. But while I think Wolfenstein will be on the list I think it'll be bottom three and its real reward will be one of those bits, not the top ten list.

“It got its due earlier.”

Best Moment is probably just Best Wolfenstein Moment of 2017, this year. That game has at least five that I can remember that would top that list any other year.

Even people who didn't really dig the gameplay--and, for the record, I think a lot of that is trying to play with a controller, it is way slicker with a mouse and keyboard--couldn't stop raving about it. I think it'll do very well.

It's probably going to be two moments from Wolfenstein and two moments from Yakuza 0 (Majima's introduction and Kuze's motorbike sewer) then a fight between which of them is the final 3.

There's a few more than just two that I bet will get a mention, though I don't know how many they'd "list".

Spoiler:

Axing Caroline a question
Returning home
BJ's execution/the courtroom scene
Hitler
The Hitler achievement (separately, and this is a litmus test of your goodness as a human being)
The party scene
Everything in the ending up until The Song

Kamakazi010654 wrote:

PUBG is in the Hitman spot...

Speaking of which, Hitman's retail release was actually this calendar year.

Hitman was released before that, it wasn't in early access as it was being sold episodically. And Giant Bomb doesn't give awards to Game of the Year titles that collect the game alongside DLC, so that ain't going to happen.

As bnpederson said, Hitman's release was this year. The GOTY and Complete Editions were released this year but the entire game was released last year.

If rereleases counted, Jeff would have made sure Burnout Paradise won at least 4 times.

Heheheh... in regards to NieR and the game of the year discussions... https://twitter.com/alex_navarro/sta...

I saw that, and I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS I'M HAPPY OR SAD. Probably sad.

1. PUBG
2. Nier Automata
3. Super Mario Odyssey
4. Cuphead
5. Wolfenstein 2
6. Zelda BotW
7. Night in the Woods
8. Horizon Zero Dawn
9. Dream Daddy
10. Destiny 2

I feel like PUBG is the Hitman of this year for GB (except for the fact it is not nearly as good )

2-4 could be in any order, Mario and Cuphead were liked by everyone but Nier will have a few very vocal supporters.

The bottom half I have no confidence in whatsoever and I wouldn't be surprised if BotW is lower because outside of Dan nobody on the staff really seemed to be overly enthusiastic about it.

Tacoma, Edith Finch, Pyre, Life is Strange, and Yakuza 0 could all get on there but I don't think those games have been talked about much lately, so who knows?

If you think Odyssey is better than BOTW I don't know what to tell you.