Great Big Tracts of Land, or How I Bought a Castle

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The deed is done. Now the work begins in earnest.

Have I mentioned Hughes.net sucks? I can't connect to my remote computers through LogMeIn via Hughes.net, which pretty much hamstrings me. Teamviewer may or may not work... but I can't remote into my remote computer to install it to try! Arghh.

Anyway, back on topic. It's been a long day, but we now have control of the castle. For all those asking about reservations, feel free to call or go online at ravenwoodcastle.com (still the old site for another week or two) and reserve away. Or, send me a PM and I'll hook you up with the standing Goodjer discount. More details on that to be announced as soon as I get my connectivity issues squared away.

Congrats me Lord.

Hughes is your only option right? That really blows. I've had the displeasure of dealing with them a lot when I worked at Burger King corp as that was usually the main net connection for a lot of the more remote restaurants.

Thanks WizKid!

Unfortunately yeah Edwin, that was an unpleasant surprise this afternoon. Preliminary research had told us that we had DSL newly available in the area, and it was one of my first calls after closing. Preliminary research, it turns out, was incorrect.

wordsmythe wrote:
Mantid wrote:

Not sure how Virginia and West Virginia sneaked into the North East.

What map are you looking at?

I was looking at the bottom of the wiki page where it lists the areas: "Northeast (New England -Middle Atlantic)"

Middle Atlantic includes Virginia and West Virginia.

Congrats Teneman!! This is wonderful. I pray it is a lucrative venture that works out well for you and your family, er, sorry linage.

Teneman wrote:

Thanks WizKid!

Unfortunately yeah Edwin, that was an unpleasant surprise this afternoon. Preliminary research had told us that we had DSL newly available in the area, and it was one of my first calls after closing. Preliminary research, it turns out, was incorrect.

Start going up and down the food chain and ask how much it'll cost you to have them trench and run the lines to your place. I know it'll cost a lot but in the long run won't it be worth it? Ask the neighbors if they are interested and willing to chip in. I've heard of similar success stories in the past. Otherwise you can just start up an ISP and get yourself a connection that way. Wouldn't be the first time.

Congratulations! I'm definitely looking forward to planning out a visit with or without my wife and kids.

Edwin wrote:

Start going up and down the food chain and ask how much it'll cost you to have them trench and run the lines to your place. I know it'll cost a lot but in the long run won't it be worth it? Ask the neighbors if they are interested and willing to chip in. I've heard of similar success stories in the past. Otherwise you can just start up an ISP and get yourself a connection that way. Wouldn't be the first time.

He speaks truth. I was able to convince Verizon to run fiber optic out to us. I had to sign a contract for eternity...the sun will burn out before my contract expires...but, don't care; have FIOS.

Congrats, Teneman!!!

-- Where is Teneman?
-- Oh, he must be in his castle!

Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:

Congrats, Teneman!!!

-- Where is Teneman?
-- Oh, he must be in his castle!

Sorry, Goodjer. But, Teneman is in another castle.

duckideva wrote:
Edwin wrote:

Start going up and down the food chain and ask how much it'll cost you to have them trench and run the lines to your place. I know it'll cost a lot but in the long run won't it be worth it? Ask the neighbors if they are interested and willing to chip in. I've heard of similar success stories in the past. Otherwise you can just start up an ISP and get yourself a connection that way. Wouldn't be the first time.

He speaks truth. I was able to convince Verizon to run fiber optic out to us. I had to sign a contract for eternity...the sun will burn out before my contract expires...but, don't care; have FIOS.

I'm being told by Frontier now that there isn't service available, and that they'll not bring it out there as it would cost $20k to put a box in. First, I'm not sure I'm getting the right answer, as my employees have relatives within a mile or two who just got DSL from Frontier. Seems to me that's close enough. So I'm not giving up on beating Frontier into submission.

I'm always big on contingency plans though. Does anyone know of any other options for getting broadband out to the boonies? Edwin, you say start up an ISP and get yourself a connection, is that a joke or something that can be done?

Teneman wrote:

I'm always big on contingency plans though. Does anyone know of any other options for getting broadband out to the boonies? Edwin, you say start up an ISP and get yourself a connection, is that a joke or something that can be done?

Funny you should ask that. This is the latest and greatest satellite option as far as I know. I happened to read this review a couple months ago because I was really curious about it. I don't know if it would be available in that area. Also, the latency is still bad compared to DSL/Cable/Fiber. Gaming wouldn't really be an option with it.

A MiFi for every room!

Frontier's retarded. Stay far away from them.

And yes, you can start your own ISP. There's a guy in WVA who's done it, along with plenty of local wireless ISPs.

AnimeJ wrote:

Frontier's retarded. Stay far away from them.

And yes, you can start your own ISP. There's a guy in WVA who's done it, along with plenty of local wireless ISPs.

Ok, treat me like I'm a moron (probably fair to at this point anyway). How does one go about such a thing? Where does one acquire the bandwidth from in the first place?

Oh and it appears that Exede is available in the area, so that's definitely an option I'll be reviewing, thanks tuffalo!

I'm not intimately familiar with the process of obtaining bandwidth, but a guy in WVA did it when Frontier gave him a quote similar to yours. I'd say start here, and see where it takes you.

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Teneman wrote:
duckideva wrote:
Edwin wrote:

Start going up and down the food chain and ask how much it'll cost you to have them trench and run the lines to your place. I know it'll cost a lot but in the long run won't it be worth it? Ask the neighbors if they are interested and willing to chip in. I've heard of similar success stories in the past. Otherwise you can just start up an ISP and get yourself a connection that way. Wouldn't be the first time.

He speaks truth. I was able to convince Verizon to run fiber optic out to us. I had to sign a contract for eternity...the sun will burn out before my contract expires...but, don't care; have FIOS.

I'm being told by Frontier now that there isn't service available, and that they'll not bring it out there as it would cost $20k to put a box in. First, I'm not sure I'm getting the right answer, as my employees have relatives within a mile or two who just got DSL from Frontier. Seems to me that's close enough. So I'm not giving up on beating Frontier into submission.

I'm always big on contingency plans though. Does anyone know of any other options for getting broadband out to the boonies? Edwin, you say start up an ISP and get yourself a connection, is that a joke or something that can be done?

Frontier can kiss my ass. I'm surrounded by FIOS but I live in the one dead zone of FIOS of the Eastside, WA.

Let me break it down to you this way.

  • Quick and Expensive: Pay the $20k to Frontier to have them trench and install internet service. Get the neighbors to chip in to reduce up front costs so they can get connectivity as well.
  • Long and expensive: Make your own ISP. This diverges into sub categories depending on which direction you go.
    • Wired? Which kind? FTTH, FTTN, DCOSIS3, xDSL?
    • Wiresless? Which kind? Unlicensed WiMax? LTE? Mesh?
    • Profit or Non-Profit?
    • Private or Public company?

Depending on how you answer there are different things you are going to be hitting. If you get involved in local politics and make it municipal, get ready to be sued to death by all the ISPs not wanting any competition.

There might be hope in the very distant future for rural broadband, but it won't happen anytime soon since the TV broadcasters have no incentive to give up their white space because the price just goes up every day.

Random links to ideas:
https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Gett...
http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetPlan/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Meshnet/
http://www.alternativeradio.org/prod...
http://seattlemeshnet.wikia.com/wiki...
https://wiki.projectmeshnet.org/Seat...

Disclosure: I was once a active member of the South Florida Digital Alliance and the Miami-Dade Broadband Coalition and am very slanted against the f*cktwat telecoms who charge and arm and a leg all the while trying to give those in poverty access to man's greatest creation.

I remember your pain; we've used both Hughes and WildBlue in MI and TX. What a PITA.

In MI, we eventually switched to FreedomNet. I can't remember what their tech is, you need LOS to the tower, but it was nearly as good as wired broadband and the range was several miles.

I see a lot of West Michigan Wireless ISP wifi access points in my county. I'm not sure what their setup is but they may have something useful. They seem to put antennas up on barns and silos and such.

If you're only a mile or two out you may want to look into some sort of aimed antenna setup as a temporary solution.

Whether or not any of that is useful, good luck and I look forward to progress reports.

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