Baldur's Gate coming back

I love hearing that. Not a big Epic fan.

manta173 wrote:
Rainsmercy wrote:

Huh, well, maybe I missed something, but not finding anywhere to preorder/prepurchase it so I CAN participate in early access.

Can't preorder stuff on Stadia... not much a point to since no downloads... also seems like the Developer doesn't want people to preorder it on hype because the early access is truly early access and it will be not balanced and buggy.

Was looking more for Steam as I'm not rich enough to afford Stadia/nor do I want yet another game launcher.

fishdude wrote:

There is rumor they will do an epic exclusive but it will be available to pre-play on Steam. I will give them money as soon as they will take it.

You know my feelings on Epic.

Rainsmercy wrote:
manta173 wrote:
Rainsmercy wrote:

Huh, well, maybe I missed something, but not finding anywhere to preorder/prepurchase it so I CAN participate in early access.

Can't preorder stuff on Stadia... not much a point to since no downloads... also seems like the Developer doesn't want people to preorder it on hype because the early access is truly early access and it will be not balanced and buggy.

Was looking more for Steam as I'm not rich enough to afford Stadia/nor do I want yet another game launcher.

Assuming you have a way to access chrome....it's literally just the cost of the game... Stadia is free unless you want the 4k tier or the monthly free games. It's a website... I can understand not wanting to split your library to another service... but that's the only 'downside' unless you have a machine that can run it at 4k.

So I haven't really looked into Stadia, but isn't it streaming only? You cant download the game you buy?
That would seem like a fairly huge downside.

Correct, all streaming.

Might look at Geforce Now. Its $5 a month currently and it uses your Steam, Epic, etc libraries to authenticate that you own the games you want to stream. The hardware running the game is Nvidia's servers so you can run at the highest detail on any PC, laptop, I think even mobile..

I havent tried either service but Im close to trying out the Geforce one since its not starting a new library over again. I think its worth $5 to see if I like living-room gaming enough to stream to my HTPC.

Shadout wrote:

So I haven't really looked into Stadia, but isn't it streaming only? You cant download the game you buy?
That would seem like a fairly huge downside.

I don't understand that logic... Biggest concern there is loss of internet... valid... but not a big likely hood day to day for most gamers.

If steam shut down tomorrow I would lose a bunch of sh*t I don't keep installed. So that shouldn't really be a concern either. It's been a thing for PC Gaming for more than a decade... I haven't bought a game on disc I can remember since steam started preloads.

polypusher wrote:

Might look at Geforce Now. Its $5 a month currently and it uses your Steam, Epic, etc libraries to authenticate that you own the games you want to stream. The hardware running the game is Nvidia's servers so you can run at the highest detail on any PC, laptop, I think even mobile..

I havent tried either service but Im close to trying out the Geforce one since its not starting a new library over again. I think its worth $5 to see if I like living-room gaming enough to stream to my HTPC.

Remember you have limited game time per day before you get booted and have to wait for an open slot again. Also, they definitely screwed over the deals they had with the big devs by going live without redoing agreements from the beta. I was under the impression they lost a lot of games they had been compatible with.

manta173 wrote:
polypusher wrote:

Might look at Geforce Now. Its $5 a month currently and it uses your Steam, Epic, etc libraries to authenticate that you own the games you want to stream. The hardware running the game is Nvidia's servers so you can run at the highest detail on any PC, laptop, I think even mobile..

I havent tried either service but Im close to trying out the Geforce one since its not starting a new library over again. I think its worth $5 to see if I like living-room gaming enough to stream to my HTPC.

Remember you have limited game time per day before you get booted and have to wait for an open slot again. Also, they definitely screwed over the deals they had with the big devs by going live without redoing agreements from the beta. I was under the impression they lost a lot of games they had been compatible with.

Limited time and queues for launching a game is the free tier only. Once you pay, that stuff goes away and you get a more powerful machine to play on. And yeah, they lost a bunch of games at launch but a decent amount have made their way back onto the service at this point.

I subscribed for a few months while I was RMAing parts for my computer and only had an old Macbook Pro in the house to play on and it was pretty great, other than 2k throwing a fit about allowing people to play games they had already purchased on what amounts to a VM instance.

billt721 wrote:
manta173 wrote:
polypusher wrote:

Might look at Geforce Now. Its $5 a month currently and it uses your Steam, Epic, etc libraries to authenticate that you own the games you want to stream. The hardware running the game is Nvidia's servers so you can run at the highest detail on any PC, laptop, I think even mobile..

I havent tried either service but Im close to trying out the Geforce one since its not starting a new library over again. I think its worth $5 to see if I like living-room gaming enough to stream to my HTPC.

Remember you have limited game time per day before you get booted and have to wait for an open slot again. Also, they definitely screwed over the deals they had with the big devs by going live without redoing agreements from the beta. I was under the impression they lost a lot of games they had been compatible with.

Limited time is the free tier, and yeah, they lost a bunch of games at launch but a decent amount have made their way back onto the service at this point.

I subscribed for a few months while I was RMAing parts for my computer and only had an old Macbook Pro in the house to play on and it was pretty great, other than 2k throwing a fit about allowing people to play games they had already purchased on what amounts to a VM instance.

According to their website the paid tier is limited... 6 hours instead of whatever the free tier is... also jump in front of the no paid people... but still limited.

manta173 wrote:
billt721 wrote:
manta173 wrote:
polypusher wrote:

Might look at Geforce Now. Its $5 a month currently and it uses your Steam, Epic, etc libraries to authenticate that you own the games you want to stream. The hardware running the game is Nvidia's servers so you can run at the highest detail on any PC, laptop, I think even mobile..

I havent tried either service but Im close to trying out the Geforce one since its not starting a new library over again. I think its worth $5 to see if I like living-room gaming enough to stream to my HTPC.

Remember you have limited game time per day before you get booted and have to wait for an open slot again. Also, they definitely screwed over the deals they had with the big devs by going live without redoing agreements from the beta. I was under the impression they lost a lot of games they had been compatible with.

Limited time is the free tier, and yeah, they lost a bunch of games at launch but a decent amount have made their way back onto the service at this point.

I subscribed for a few months while I was RMAing parts for my computer and only had an old Macbook Pro in the house to play on and it was pretty great, other than 2k throwing a fit about allowing people to play games they had already purchased on what amounts to a VM instance.

According to their website the paid tier is limited... 6 hours instead of whatever the free tier is... also jump in front of the no paid people... but still limited.

Ha! Ok, if you're the type of person who ever is able to play a game for 6 hours straight, well, congrats on making the right choice and not having kids!

I'm not that person, so in actual real-world usage, I never got bumped from a game and never had to wait for one to start up. I guess the service is potentially worse than that, but I was happy with my time, especially since Stadia refused to let me sign up at all (unsupported in Hawaii).

Didn't know it was unsupported there have you checked recently? They've expanded a lot since release.

I used to game 8 or 12 hours straight... ahh my 20s....

manta173 wrote:

Didn't know it was unsupported there have you checked recently? They've expanded a lot since release.

I used to game 8 or 12 hours straight... ahh my 20s....

"At this time Stadia is not supported in Hawaii or Guam."

Which is fine. Once my computer parts got back to me I had no need for such a service, and regardless, I'd need some game access guarantees for when they shut the service down before I gave Google any of my money anyways. But that's for another thread and we're way off-topic here.

manta173 wrote:
Shadout wrote:

So I haven't really looked into Stadia, but isn't it streaming only? You cant download the game you buy?
That would seem like a fairly huge downside.

I don't understand that logic... Biggest concern there is loss of internet... valid... but not a big likely hood day to day for most gamers.

If steam shut down tomorrow I would lose a bunch of sh*t I don't keep installed. So that shouldn't really be a concern either. It's been a thing for PC Gaming for more than a decade... I haven't bought a game on disc I can remember since steam started preloads.

Google abandons almost everything they do. Buying into Stadia, given their predilection to take things out behind the woodshed and shoot them if they're not immediate monster hits, strikes me as an extremely bad bet.

manta173 wrote:

I don't understand that logic... Biggest concern there is loss of internet... valid... but not a big likely hood day to day for most gamers.

Loss of internet. Slow internet. Lag, probably not a big issue for this particular game of course. Maybe wanting to use your internet for something else at the same time as gaming. Limited availability in some places.
Monthly data caps from your ISP is not really a thing here but I thought it was fairly common in US?

I am not saying Stadia is a bad service, it comes with upsides too, such as not needing a powerful pc/console. But certainly also downsides imo.

Sorry Baldur's Gate fans.

I kind of look at all these streaming services as paid pilots at the moment. It's the way things are moving, and eventually expensive hardware 'on premise' will probably feel so quaint, but Stadia, GeForce now.... they're testing the waters and are important learning tools for what will probably be the norm in 10 years. I just don't feel like being part of that pilot.

For the people that have been following this game closer than I have does early access sound like a good idea or save that money for the Halloween sales? Maybe picking the game up closer to full release?

My game plan for the rest of this year is to get two full price games tops.

Thank you.

I'm a huge BG series fan and I'm waiting for the full release. Also I'm torn between getting a new laptop now and for Cyberpunk 2077 or holding off until the NVIDIA 30 series videocards are out for laptops.

Stealthpizza wrote:

For the people that have been following this game closer than I have does early access sound like a good idea or save that money for the Halloween sales? Maybe picking the game up closer to full release?

My game plan for the rest of this year is to get two full price games tops.

Thank you.

I'm torn.

Larian's approach to "Early Access" is that they'll give you a substantial portion of the game - usually the first act - that's totally playable, but then get the players to balance test etc. It's a good system for them and you'll be playing something very playable, that, if you decide to give your feedback, Larian will act on accordingly so you'll get that sense of active involvement if that's your thing. They've already asked people to really play around with it - "Can you please be Evil? We want to know if that's balanced and what you think of all the consequences!" so it could be a good opportunity to really think outside the box a little.

Like I said I am very tempted. I held off for D:OS2's early access despite backing the game, but after a couple of hours playing around with it realised it wasn't what I was looking for and left it alone until full release, but I always thought I should have got more involved. Plus by giving Larian money now you're contributing funds to make BG3 as good as it can be.

I think I'll take the plunge and even if it's a bit more basic than I'm expecting, I'll be getting the game regardless so it's not like I've wasted anything. It's a tough call though.

Budo wrote:

I'm a huge BG series fan and I'm waiting for the full release. Also I'm torn between getting a new laptop now and for Cyberpunk 2077 or holding off until the NVIDIA 30 series videocards are out for laptops.

You want to buy my barely used Razer laptop with 2060?

Balthezor wrote:
Budo wrote:

I'm a huge BG series fan and I'm waiting for the full release. Also I'm torn between getting a new laptop now and for Cyberpunk 2077 or holding off until the NVIDIA 30 series videocards are out for laptops.

You want to buy my barely used Razer laptop with 2060? :P

I'll give ya 50 bucks...

Sorbicol wrote:
Stealthpizza wrote:

For the people that have been following this game closer than I have does early access sound like a good idea or save that money for the Halloween sales? Maybe picking the game up closer to full release?

My game plan for the rest of this year is to get two full price games tops.

Thank you.

I'm torn.

Larian's approach to "Early Access" is that they'll give you a substantial portion of the game - usually the first act - that's totally playable, but then get the players to balance test etc. It's a good system for them and you'll be playing something very playable, that, if you decide to give your feedback, Larian will act on accordingly so you'll get that sense of active involvement if that's your thing. They've already asked people to really play around with it - "Can you please be Evil? We want to know if that's balanced and what you think of all the consequences!" so it could be a good opportunity to really think outside the box a little.

Like I said I am very tempted. I held off for D:OS2's early access despite backing the game, but after a couple of hours playing around with it realised it wasn't what I was looking for and left it alone until full release, but I always thought I should have got more involved. Plus by giving Larian money now you're contributing funds to make BG3 as good as it can be.

I think I'll take the plunge and even if it's a bit more basic than I'm expecting, I'll be getting the game regardless so it's not like I've wasted anything. It's a tough call though.

They really tried to warn off people in the live streams... don't buy it if you aren't ok with bugs and problems... That said... I might buy it to support it and to give me something to mess around with...

I am thinking I will buy it to play with until cyberpunk comes out.

Saw a report that hard drive space needed is now up to 150 GB.

I'm going to get the laptop. Apparently by the time a worthwhile NVIDIA 3000 card comes out for laptops it'll be Spring at the earliest. Even then I can barely tell the difference at this point between Very high and Ultra high settings.

Stealthpizza wrote:

I am thinking I will buy it to play with until cyberpunk comes out.

Saw a report that hard drive space needed is now up to 150 GB.

I just read that as well. 80GB for the early access alone!

I’m gong to have to clear some space!

Holy cow, for an RPG? That game must be bloody enormous.

I remember when a big RPG was six or eight floppies.

Malor wrote:

Holy cow, for an RPG? That game must be bloody enormous.

I remember when a big RPG was six or eight floppies.

3.5” or 5.25”?

Malor wrote:

Holy cow, for an RPG? That game must be bloody enormous.

I remember when a big RPG was six or eight floppies.

I remember using 2-3 floppies just to load a game... or any kind of software, really... the big, non-double-or-high-density kind. Heck, I can still recall the sounds the CPU made...

Ultima 8 came on eight 3.5" floppies and I think 3 more for the voice pack.

JC wrote:
Malor wrote:

Holy cow, for an RPG? That game must be bloody enormous.

I remember when a big RPG was six or eight floppies.

3.5” or 5.25”?

I only ever used 5.25" disks on my TI 99/4A. Went to an Amiga from there, and by the time I bailed to the PC, that was all 3.5" too.

I can't even imagine telling early-20s me, "by the time you're old, a big RPG will take a hundred and fifty gigabytes of storage." I'd have looked at my Amiga 500, run a calculator, and figured out that you meant over 170,000 of my 880K floppies.

I was pretty credulous back then, but I don't think I'd have bought that malarkey.