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That show was great. I'm glad Ritter got the Jessica Jones gig but I still wish Apt23 had more seasons.

When my wife and I were doing a watch of Break Bad (first time for her, second for me) and when she showed up as Jesse's GF I was like "oh hey that's Jessica Jones." It is really sad what happened with the Marvel Netflix shows. They had some great writing, not you Iron Fist, and great casting and I felt like they were all set to get really interesting in the next season.

Daredevil >>> Jessica Jones = Luke Cage = The Punisher >>> Iron Fish

Yes, I'm leaving that typo in.

Daredevil = Jessica Jones >>> Luke Cage = The Punisher >>> Defenders >>> Iron Fish >>> Iron Fist

Also would have been cool to get a Ghost Rider spin-off out of Agents of Shield.

Punisher had such a good first season and such a bleh second season.

Most of the Netflix Marvel shows had some really strong parts, and to varying degrees were dragged down by weak parts. I actually think the first season of Daredevil was better than many of the movies, with a stellar combination of writing, acting, cinematography, and fantastic fight choreography, and the third season made up for the dip in quality of the second. Jessica Jones's first season was probably the most interesting of all the series in terms of issues brought up - PTSD, gaslighting, systematic acceptance of the abuse of women - that have only become even more a part of social discourse since it premiered.

Luke Cage's first season had a really strong first half that I thought was unfortunately undone by killing off the interesting villain (magnetically played by Mahershala Ali) and substituting a boring, generic comic book villain. The second season had a great villain, but I found it pretty meandering plot-wise in a way that sapped interest. I kind of loathe the character of the Punisher - that kind of rationalized revenge fantasy seems to me one of the more toxic tropes in media - but I can recognize that there was some interesting writing and great acting work from Jon Bernthal, Ben Barnes, and Amber Rose Revah.

Iron Fist...well, Jessica Henwick was great (I'm not slighting Finn Jones, I don't think anyone could have made a compelling character out of the mess that was in the script), and I was excited that they passed the Fist on to her, and then immediately afterwards was let down when Marvel puled the plug on the whole series.

Daredevil S1 = Jessica Jones S1 = worth watching

everything else Netflix MCU = not worth watching

Some of that latter category is there by reputation as opposed to personal observation, so I guess I'll be forced to believe anyone who disagrees, because hell if I can be arsed to see for myself.

As bad as Iron Fist is, I wouldn't say don't watch it because that would do a great disservice to Jessica Henwick. She wasn't given much to work with, but she killed it for the most part.

Yeah, I've been hoping - mostly in vain so far - for her to get a role somewhere that continues to display what made her the best part of Iron Fist.

Evan E wrote:

Luke Cage's first season had a really strong first half that I thought was unfortunately undone by killing off the interesting villain (magnetically played by Mahershala Ali) and substituting a boring, generic comic book villain.

Diamondback really was such a comic book villain. Always chewing the scenery but without the presence to do it well.

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