Mass Effect 3 Catch-All

From my paragon's playthrough in ME2 I got the opinion that all the races are going to band together to defeat the Reapers. Given the force, I would assume it will be the armies holding them back while Shepard finds some missing Prothean technology to stop them once and for all.

Also yay! More Reapers!

Didn't I read something that said the remaining DLC for ME2 will bridge the gap to ME3?

There's more DLC?

I hope so!

Grubber788 wrote:

There's more DLC?

Could this thread get any better?

Yay! That looks awesome; plus that's the cleanest I've ever seen London.

I don't recall anything saying explicitly there would be DLC to bridge ME2 - 3, LotSB seems to be one that fits the description though. Perhaps it was that they would release content between them to keep the game 'active'. There's about a year between now and release, so I wonder if they've spent the time on more DLC, or whether they're done with ME2 and all their efforts are on 3, marketing all on to 3, and a PC/360 release of a bundle equivalent to the PS3 release with all the DLC.

Cannot wait. ME2 is at the top of my list at trueachievements, which is very indicative of how much I enjoyed it. I don't chase achievements just for their own sake; I really liked exploring what the game had to offer. While I expect we'll see an even more streamlined game (one of the few characteristics of ME2 I didn't like--I wanted more of the ME1 traditional RPG elements), I think seeing the story reach its climax will be well worth my time.

I'll be bummed when it's over though

I wonder if building your crew is going to be a big part of this one as well, and how many of the old characters make it back.

Anyone interested in the universe should read the three novels by Drew Karpishyn. They're pretty well written and fill in the backstory nicely on a lot of stuff in the games. And it will help fill in a tiny bit of that long wait until next christmas.

indy wrote:

I wonder if building your crew is going to be a big part of this one as well, and how many of the old characters make it back.

I doubt I have to do this, but probably should just in case:

Spoiler:

I'm hoping that depends on how many people survive in your final scene of ME2. Of course there will be new characters to flesh it out though.

There's just GOT to be a final battle scene where every character you've ever met is shown fighting/doing something to help.

I'm not sure if this could be good or bad, but I wouldn't be surprised if EVERY decision you've made in ME up to this point either helps or hinders you in the final battle. It might be frustrating if you were a dick in the first two games prevents you from defeating the Reapers, but it'd be an incredibly gutsy move on Bioware's part if they make the endgame of ME3 hinge on the total sum of what you've done in all three parts of the trilogy. From killing or sparing the Rachni to whether or not you cheated on your ME1 paramour, everything you've done as Shepard could come into play.

Rat Boy wrote:

I'm not sure if this could be good or bad, but I wouldn't be surprised if EVERY decision you've made in ME up to this point either helps or hinders you in the final battle. It might be frustrating if you were a dick in the first two games prevents you from defeating the Reapers, but it'd be an incredibly gutsy move on Bioware's part if they make the endgame of ME3 hinge on the total sum of what you've done in all three parts of the trilogy. From killing or sparing the Rachni to whether or not you cheated on your ME1 paramour, everything you've done as Shepard could come into play.

I believe that was the original goal....then Mass Effect 2 came around...

Citizen86 wrote:

We all knew Mass Effect was going to be a trilogy though...

Thanks. I see a lot of people in shock the last day or two, on message boards, on twitter, everywhere... I'm like hello, did you people not read any news about ME2 before/when it released? Trilogy was made pretty clear at that point. Or you know, if you played ME2, that ending was pretty obviously a teaser for part 3. It wasn't as clear as the "to be concluded" line at the end of Back to the Future part 2, but it was pretty damn close.

Trailer is very cool though. Think ME's story was better than ME2, but appreciated the gameplay refinements in part 2. Inventory management was ridiculous in the first. Hoping they can leave out any tedious repetitive stuff this time. The side missions with all the reskinned buildings and boring terrain from the first one, or the same old same old scanning minigame that you had to do for upgrades in the 2nd... just don't put some annoying crap in there. With all the setup in story from the first 2 games and all the characters and various races you have met, there's more than enough main plot elements and character/ally sidequests to occupy time in part 3 to try to wrap this story up in a satisfying way. Let's not waste time with minigames and pointless sidequests.

indy wrote:

Anyone interested in the universe should read the three novels by Drew Karpishyn. They're pretty well written and fill in the backstory nicely on a lot of stuff in the games. And it will help fill in a tiny bit of that long wait until next christmas.

I'll second this. The books were really enjoyable. A bit darker too, but quite entertaining. The third story really plays on the Cerberus vs Alliance, so it should be interesting to see where that will lead.

Rat Boy wrote:

I'm not sure if this could be good or bad, but I wouldn't be surprised if EVERY decision you've made in ME up to this point either helps or hinders you in the final battle. It might be frustrating if you were a dick in the first two games prevents you from defeating the Reapers, but it'd be an incredibly gutsy move on Bioware's part if they make the endgame of ME3 hinge on the total sum of what you've done in all three parts of the trilogy. From killing or sparing the Rachni to whether or not you cheated on your ME1 paramour, everything you've done as Shepard could come into play.

Oh my God. The squealing would break the internet. It will more likely be similar to the end of Dragon Age, where the armies you've gathered come to support you.

There's no way they would make a game unwinnable based on decisions made in previous games.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

There's no way they would make a game unwinnable based on decisions made in previous games.

Well there is one save file that you can't import into ME 3 but it still counts as winning ME 2.

Someone has mixed the ME3 trailer video with the TESV trailer audio. It works surprisingly well, and not just from the perspective of the audio fitting with the video, but also describing the story of Mass Effect and Shepard.

MrDeVil909 wrote:

There's no way they would make a game unwinnable based on decisions made in previous games.

Maybe there's not a clear cut victory condition, maybe it's just that the more support you have the less things turn to sh*t, just like in ME2's endgame. You'll always win, the question is at what price, that's what I'm guessing.

I hope for a decent epilogue too, even if it's as DLC. A story spanning 3 games needs that.

kyrieee wrote:
MrDeVil909 wrote:

There's no way they would make a game unwinnable based on decisions made in previous games.

Maybe there's not a clear cut victory condition, maybe it's just that the more support you have the less things turn to sh*t, just like in ME2's endgame. You'll always win, the question is at what price, that's what I'm guessing.

I hope for a decent epilogue too, even if it's as DLC. A story spanning 3 games needs that.

Yeah, that I can totally see.

ME DLC and sidemissions has always had the problem of "Hold on, saving the universe can wait, I have to save Mrs. Smith's cat", where you've got this urgent plot but you're also offering an optional side mission. They need to work out how to make them fit better within another bigger plot, but also how to make them work outside of a big plot and if they want to make more games in that universe, without Shepard.

LotSB was a decent attempt at this I think, it was important within the various story threads set up in ME1 and 2, didn't really interact with the Collectors/Reapers story, but was still important enough to Shepard that diverting to do the mission didn't feel like just something to do to level up.

I think that's the key, make it important to the character and have an impact on the world you've given them. At that point it doesn't matter if your main plot is saving the world or saving your spare parts business.

NSMike wrote:

Someone has mixed the ME3 trailer video with the TESV trailer audio. It works surprisingly well, and not just from the perspective of the audio fitting with the video, but also describing the story of Mass Effect and Shepard.

That's insane how well that works. Wonder if they have a certain script they follow for these things.

SommerMatt wrote:

There's just GOT to be a final battle scene where every character you've ever met is shown fighting/doing something to help.

Even...

Spoiler:

ZOMBIE KAIDEN!?

BlackSabre wrote:

That's insane how well that works. Wonder if they have a certain script they follow for these things.

Wow, no kidding. If they'd intentionally synched "dawned" with the light coming across Generic Soldier's face I would have thought that too heavy-handed.

You joke, but I really wouldn't put it past Bioware to have cyborg ghost-reaper Kaiden coming back for revenge. At the very least, I expect ole' Waxy-La'Rou Ashley to come at me with a butcher's knife for cheating on her with Tali.

Hey, hey, hey... Grubber... Spoiler.

But yeah, watch out for Ashley. Doesn't matter if you had a good reason; she will straight-up murder you before you can say, "I can explain."

LobsterMobster wrote:

Hey, hey, hey... Grubber... Spoiler.

But yeah, watch out for Ashley. Doesn't matter if you had a good reason; she will straight-up murder you before you can say, "I can explain."

I know you're joking, but are we actually putting spoiler tags from ME2 in the ME3 thread? I don't really mind, but was still curious.

One thing to remember is that Bioware likes to throw some curveballs in with their teaser/reveal trailers. They did it with the ME2 Legion trailer, there's probably something deceiving about this as well.

And this is what Casey Hudson had to saw about DLC bridging between ME2 and ME3.

Casey Hudson wrote:

“We have a bunch of packs that are in the works right now,” he said. “So, for the time being there’s going to be a continued stream of DLC for people.

“We’ll start to have packs that’ll tell the story between Mass Effect 2 and 3. But beyond that we kind of have to see how people are responding to what we have and go from there.

“It probably won’t be for quite a few months that we talk about Mass Effect 3″.

This was before the release of The Shadow Broker. I don't think there's been any hint of more DLC for ME2.

A thread about the sequel is what I would consider fair game for spoilers, and it's hardly as though there's many un-obvious "Harbinger is Shepard's father" spoilers to do really (I'd also say there's less plot in ME2 to spoil, compared to ME1 from 2007). I'd also say enough time has passed since release, and most who are invested in the series have played it by now.

Yeah, seriously. Sequel threads are fair game for spoilers.