Mass Effect 3 Catch-All

I would have rerun as a femshep with Garrus just for the love triangle hilarity that could erupt there.

Rykin wrote:

But could have been interesting with Garrus if Nyreen ended up being the recon scout he mentioned in ME2 who had flexibility.

I agree, and it wouldn't have surprised me, but I admit I would've found it extremely contrived. I mean, we meet one, single, solitary Turian female and she just happens to be the only one we've ever heard about before? At that point I'd start to wonder if we've never seen one before because she's the only female.

I like to think of the Turians like Pratchett dwarves. They all look alike.

cube wrote:

I like to think of the Turians like Pratchett dwarves. They all look alike.

But now that we have seen one we know this isn't true. They have applied human female ascetics to her design. This kind of annoys me in sci-fi. I like the way Gears of War handled this. The female locusts are a good example of not following this (the Berserkers are the females: bigger, meaner, and uglier by our standards).

Rykin wrote:
cube wrote:

I like to think of the Turians like Pratchett dwarves. They all look alike.

But now that we have seen one we know this isn't true. They have applied human female ascetics to her design. This kind of annoys me in sci-fi. I like the way Gears of War handled this. The female locusts are a good example of not following this (the Berserkers are the females: bigger, meaner, and uglier by our standards).

Until you get to the Hive Queen or whatever, which is...well...yeah.

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Yea I only ever played the first one so I never met her.

Also she's a definite outlier that bears explanation (which we never get).

I thought that in Mass Effect 1 female Turians are described as virtually identical to males, just with a smaller crest. Which would make sense for a species that looks kind of jagged. But whatever, we knew that's how it would go down, the alien designers have stated they take sex appeal (and lack thereof) into consideration.

My biggest problem with Nyreen is that her eyes are absolutely nothing like those of any of the males we've seen. It makes no sense to have sexually dimorphic vision. That is, unless it's evolutionarily beneficial that females can see better in the dark than males.

There's a joke in there somewhere.

LobsterMobster wrote:

Also she's a definite outlier that bears explanation (which we never get).

I thought that in Mass Effect 1 female Turians are described as virtually identical to males, just with a smaller crest. Which would make sense for a species that looks kind of jagged. But whatever, we knew that's how it would go down, the alien designers have stated they take sex appeal (and lack thereof) into consideration.

My biggest problem with Nyreen is that her eyes are absolutely nothing like those of any of the males we've seen. It makes no sense to have sexually dimorphic vision. That is, unless it's evolutionarily beneficial that females can see better in the dark than males.

There's a joke in there somewhere.

She needs to make sure he doesn't miss? Anyway, yeah, it was even mentioned in one of the books (I forget which one... maybe the 2nd?) that the females again were not all that different from the males, other than a difference in head ridges and minor size variation (I think slightly shorter/slimmer). I haven't tried Omega yet, waiting for ME1 to hit the PSN for a full new runthrough after I finish my birthday run of Dishonored.

Playing Omega has infected me with the Mass Effect bug again. If I wasn't still working on Borderlands 2 and didn't have Dishonored sitting on a shelf and didn't have a copy of Far Cry 3 to pick up tomorrow I would probably do yet another full series play-through. Or maybe just pony up the money for the digital comic thing on Xbox 360 and do 2 and 3 again.

Also I decided to run with the Harrier through most of Omega and was surprised by how much I like that gun. I tend to go more for accurate semi-auto guns with a lot of power like the Mattock or Sabre or a full-auto bullet hose like the Revenant or Typhoon and the Harrier (even at level 1, since I forgot to go upgrade my guns before starting Omega) seems like a nice in between option.

Demosthenes wrote:

She needs to make sure he doesn't miss? Anyway, yeah, it was even mentioned in one of the books (I forget which one... maybe the 2nd?) that the females again were not all that different from the males, other than a difference in head ridges and minor size variation (I think slightly shorter/slimmer). I haven't tried Omega yet, waiting for ME1 to hit the PSN for a full new runthrough after I finish my birthday run of Dishonored. :)

Nyreen has large... I don't know, flanges(?) on the sides of her head which look very different from other Turians, but then Saren looked very different from other Turians, too.

I like to think turian females have been everywhere, Shepard just didn't know what he/she was looking at. Did I say that before in this thread, or in the other one? Oh well.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I like to think turian females have been everywhere, Shepard just didn't know what he/she was looking at. Did I say that before in this thread, or in the other one? Oh well.

It's a nice thought. Maybe it isn't that there haven't been any other Turian females, but there haven't been any others that spoke while Shepard was around, except for that one who was a heavy smoker?

LobsterMobster wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:

She needs to make sure he doesn't miss? Anyway, yeah, it was even mentioned in one of the books (I forget which one... maybe the 2nd?) that the females again were not all that different from the males, other than a difference in head ridges and minor size variation (I think slightly shorter/slimmer). I haven't tried Omega yet, waiting for ME1 to hit the PSN for a full new runthrough after I finish my birthday run of Dishonored. :)

Nyreen has large... I don't know, flanges(?) on the sides of her head which look very different from other Turians, but then Saren looked very different from other Turians, too.

Qualifier, the smaller/slimmer was more a matter of average turian build, not just the flangy things on her face. That said, I haven't played it or seen it yet. But it wouldn't surprise me if background lore on a group that's never been seen before would change for gameplay or new character design purposes. They did that with the batarians too.

Also the Protheans. They had a design of them on Kasumi´s loyalty mission as a statue, and it looked like a Cthulu-esk type of creature with long tendrils on his face. Then they made Javik.

LobsterMobster wrote:
SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I like to think turian females have been everywhere, Shepard just didn't know what he/she was looking at. Did I say that before in this thread, or in the other one? Oh well.

It's a nice thought. Maybe it isn't that there haven't been any other Turian females, but there haven't been any others that spoke while Shepard was around, except for that one who was a heavy smoker? :D

Exactly. Maybe Warden Kuril was Miss Palaven 2180, and just really likes dextro-Wild Turkey.

Remember, the reason you can't tell male dwarves from female dwarves is cuz they all have beards!

I'm really steaming right now. I was about to write an awful hate email, but I decided it's better to have the input from you guys.

My situation: My Origin account, in which I bought ME3 the full game, is account "A". My BSN Bioware website account is different, "B". I bought ME2 DLC content through the BSN Bioware website no problem. The installers downloaded on my PC, and I had fun playing them.

Seeing this was a successful transaction, this was the method I chose to purchase the ME3 DLC. But I wasn't aware my BSN account was different from my Origin account. I can't download the installers, I can't transfer the DLC from A to B. I don't know what to do.

I contacted EA. Through their live chat feature, I spoke with 3 separate people who all told me this would be an easy fix, and that they checked to see the purchases, everything seemed to be in order, and that they would take it up with a Specialized Team. I should sit and be patient, and wait for them to contact me. This was almost 2 weeks ago.

Today, I got this reply:

EA Customer Service wrote:

Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts.

I sincerely apologize for the delay in response. Going forward, we would do our best to respond in time. And I understand that you want to transfer the content from one account to another. Actually, we cannot transfer the contents from one account to another. I really wish to help you. Trust me, had it been possible, I would have transfer the contents but I am afraid customer support department do not have any tool or feature to process your request. In fact, I would have been glad to offer you the solution I had. I apologize for the disappointment.

We appreciate your understandings in this matter.

Again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns.

You can also receive online assistance at http://help.ea.com/

Regards,
Rubul
Electronic Arts - World Wide Customer Experience

Awful English aside, what the f*cking f*ck? Am I to just be content with this reply? f*ck it, I understand, that's fine. Keep my money then. Are they for real??

I'm thinking, HOPING, that the live chat team passed the message WRONG, and this Specialized Team believes that what I wanted, was to transfer the DLC from A to B. I don't, what I want, is just a way to have this DLC to f*cking play it. That's it.

This could be a misunderstanding from their part on what I want. But if it's not, and they understand my issue, but decided this "solution" would satisfy me, then we have a problem.

How should I reply? Any suggestions?

kexx wrote:

I'm really steaming right now. I was about to write an awful hate email, but I decided it's better to have the input from you guys.

My situation: My Origin account, in which I bought ME3 the full game, is account "A". My BSN Bioware website account is different, "B". I bought ME2 DLC content through the BSN Bioware website no problem. The installers downloaded on my PC, and I had fun playing them.

Seeing this was a successful transaction, this was the method I chose to purchase the ME3 DLC. But I wasn't aware my BSN account was different from my Origin account. I can't download the installers, I can't transfer the DLC from A to B. I don't know what to do.

I contacted EA. Through their live chat feature, I spoke with 3 separate people who all told me this would be an easy fix, and that they checked to see the purchases, everything seemed to be in order, and that they would take it up with a Specialized Team. I should sit and be patient, and wait for them to contact me. This was almost 2 weeks ago.

Today, I got this reply:

EA Customer Service wrote:

Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts.

I sincerely apologize for the delay in response. Going forward, we would do our best to respond in time. And I understand that you want to transfer the content from one account to another. Actually, we cannot transfer the contents from one account to another. I really wish to help you. Trust me, had it been possible, I would have transfer the contents but I am afraid customer support department do not have any tool or feature to process your request. In fact, I would have been glad to offer you the solution I had. I apologize for the disappointment.

We appreciate your understandings in this matter.

Again, we apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns.

You can also receive online assistance at http://help.ea.com/

Regards,
Rubul
Electronic Arts - World Wide Customer Experience

Awful English aside, what the f*cking f*ck? Am I to just be content with this reply? f*ck it, I understand, that's fine. Keep my money then. Are they for real??

I'm thinking, HOPING, that the live chat team passed the message WRONG, and this Specialized Team believes that what I wanted, was to transfer the DLC from A to B. I don't, what I want, is just a way to have this DLC to f*cking play it. That's it.

This could be a misunderstanding from their part on what I want. But if it's not, and they understand my issue, but decided this "solution" would satisfy me, then we have a problem.

How should I reply? Any suggestions?

Rather than reply, I'd go through their online help tool and keep trying until you get someone that can resolve the situation. You're hardly the first person to run into this issue thanks to the stupid way they've handled old accounts, so there's definitely a way to get the contents transferred.

Yeah, I'm on live chat again with one of their advisers, but it's frustrating. No matter how much they understand or want to help, they can't, because they're low level. They look into the problem, then they "escalate" it, passing it to another team. This other team has no way of being reached. I'm sure the adviser will tell me at any moment to be patient, and that someone from their specialized team will contact me. Uuuuggghhhh...

Do their CSR's not have a way to grant you a credit or free code or something? I have worked a few jobs as a CSR/Tech Support person and I could always give away $100 or more in product/services without any approval in order to "Make Things Right." You may ask if they could do something like this for you.

Rykin wrote:

Do their CSR's not have a way to grant you a credit or free code or something? I have worked a few jobs as a CSR/Tech Support person and I could always give away $100 or more in product/services without any approval in order to "Make Things Right." You may ask if they could do something like this for you.

Yeah, I'm working as one right now and we're actively trying to encourage our reps to be less stingy.

And their response definitely flies in the face of my being "gifted" a free copy of DA:O and Awakening on Origin that I had previously purchased on Steam trying to get my Add-ons to work on a new computer. That said, I went exclusively through online chat.

encouraging words. Thanks guys. Last night, the tech guy was much more helpful than any of the others before. He reopened the case with updated information that apparently wasn't there, and reassured me that EA would do me right with this situation. Still, I must be patient and wait for a response. I hope it doesn't go beyond this weekend. IT shouldn't, considering how "easy" a fix could be, but, I'm also aware that there must be hundreds of other users with issues. I'll bug them again either tomorrow or Saturday.

We'll see how it goes.

They can definitely fix it one way or another, this was a problem all the time for ME2 DLC and I'm sure it is again for ME3. Like Demosthenes says, worse comes to worse this is easily solved by just giving you credit on your Origin account. I know in ME2's case they definitely were able to transfer DLC between accounts.

Unfortunately, EA seems to be experts in making it troublesome to reach someone who is actually knowledgeable about a particular game. Or much of anything about EA, really.

New screenshots via twitter:

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http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/28/392...

nel e nel wrote:

New screenshots via twitter:

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http://www.polygon.com/2013/1/28/392...

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That Krogan could be fun in multi-player; especially if he is a vanguard or infiltrator.

Rykin wrote:

That Krogan could be fun in multi-player; especially if he is a vanguard or infiltrator.

My guess/hope is that the first shot is for SP DLC and the second for a last MP DLC released at the same time.

Probably right for the first one, you don't get NPCs standing around much in multiplayer.

Scratched wrote:

Probably right for the first one, you don't get NPCs standing around much in multiplayer.

That could totally spice things up though. New mission type where you have to rescue civilians and then get them to an extraction zone and then protect them until the shuttle arrives. It would be sort of a combination of the recovery, escort, and extraction missions.

I would like to see them add some of the MP classes into the single player game. Be cool to be able to have FemShep as a Shadow or get Garrus as a Ghost. But hey any new SP DLC is good with me.

A MP map set in a bar in which the patrons never react to the invading hordes? I'd dig a little existentialism in my gaming.