Andrew Breitbart has died

Breitbart's last big "explosive video" has been revealed, and it contains old footage that has already been aired.

Robear wrote:
I just like to laugh at this because P&C is really cyclic. I remember it being mostly right leaning for 2 large time periods before Bush's 2nd term. Just a few "lefties" in here at the time with Robear leading the charge and JMJ leading the other.

One thing worth noting is that JMJ and I became friends, and we respected each other enough that that could happen. The public debate has been skewed for the last 30 years or so, such that respect for an opponent is weakness. That's the political environment today, but hopefully not our environment here, at least.

Also note that was during a Republican controlled Congress with a Republican president. There did seem to be a larger number of conservative folks posting back then but that was also the era of supporting the president or your patriotism would be called into question. I will say that JMJ and Pigpen were reasonable folks most of the time (as were others sometimes) but yeah the left was in the minority and not always treated kindly. Makes me want to go back and look for some of those threads if possible ...

On Breitbart ... never happy to see a life lost but I won't hide my satisfaction that one less voice of hatred is now silent.

PissedYeti wrote:

There did seem to be a larger number of conservative folks posting back then but that was also the era of supporting the president or your patriotism would be called into question. I will say that JMJ and Pigpen were reasonable folks most of the time (as were others sometimes) but yeah the left was in the minority and not always treated kindly. Makes me want to go back and look for some of those threads if possible ...

I thought about doing the same to put some quotes in on a response a few weeks back, but yeah... all that would do is just dredge up old and buried arguments. The key thing is that, like any community, there are natural shifts over time. I'm sure eventually it'll shift somewhere other than left-leaning again.

Farscry wrote:
PissedYeti wrote:

There did seem to be a larger number of conservative folks posting back then but that was also the era of supporting the president or your patriotism would be called into question. I will say that JMJ and Pigpen were reasonable folks most of the time (as were others sometimes) but yeah the left was in the minority and not always treated kindly. Makes me want to go back and look for some of those threads if possible ...

I thought about doing the same to put some quotes in on a response a few weeks back, but yeah... all that would do is just dredge up old and buried arguments. The key thing is that, like any community, there are natural shifts over time. I'm sure eventually it'll shift somewhere other than left-leaning again.

Additionally, I believe that several of them no longer post in P&C for various reasons. Not really kosher to jump back into an argument when one side can no longer defend its position.

LobsterMobster wrote:

Additionally, I believe that several of them no longer post in P&C for various reasons. Not really kosher to jump back into an argument when one side can no longer defend its position.

Isn't that why it isn't cool to speak ill of the dead?

Atras wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

Additionally, I believe that several of them no longer post in P&C for various reasons. Not really kosher to jump back into an argument when one side can no longer defend its position.

Isn't that why it isn't cool to speak ill of the dead?

Since this is still banging around as a topic, I think Ta-Nehesi Coates' take on it was really on point:

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/...

By embracing that deception, by neglecting to research Sherrod before putting up a clip of her talking, by electing to see her as little more than a shiv against the hated liberals, he deprived himself of knowledge, of experience, of insight, of enlightenment. That he might learn something from Sherrod, that he might access some power from her life, and pass that on to loved ones and friends, never occurred to him. Publicly, he lived to make himself right -- a tradition that is fully empowered in our politics. Breitbart didn't invent the art of making yourself right. But he embraced it, and then advanced it.

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I have heard it said by some fellow liberals that Breitbart was in fact a good person, that his public persona was not the same as his private. This kind of praise is so broadly true of most controversial public figures as to be meaningless. And it is irrelevant. Breitbart may well have been an excellent father and a great friend but that is not why we are talking about him. We are noting his death because of the impact he had on our politics and our conversation. It must be said that that impact was for the worse. Any talk of his private life, is an attempt to change the subject and avoid discomfiting truths.

Major Kira Nerys wrote:

You can't judge people by what they say or think. Only by what they do.

NSMike wrote:
Major Kira Nerys wrote:

You can't judge people by what they say or think. Only by what they do.

Kira... *swoon*

She's everything Tasha Yar should've been.

Tanglebones wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:

He's quite worthy of a patented The Bugle f*ckeulogy.

Speaking of which, are they back? Or are they still on hiatus after the Guardian axed them?

They are a donation funded bull-**** outlet now, so get donating! And it was The Times, not The Guardian. I'm sure the decision to axe them was nothing at all to do with the fact that the boys just couldn't stop themselves when Murdoch came under heavy fire last year.

No matter what else John Oliver does, the f*ckeulogy will always be his greatest contribution to humanity.

I don't know anything about Breitbart other than what has been said in this thread, and I don't feel much need to fill my life with partisan hatred right now. Not sure why I'm in this thread at all in fact. Or why I am eating this big bag of popcorn.

spider_j wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:
OG_slinger wrote:

He's quite worthy of a patented The Bugle f*ckeulogy.

Speaking of which, are they back? Or are they still on hiatus after the Guardian axed them?

They are a donation funded bull-**** outlet now, so get donating! And it was The Times, not The Guardian. I'm sure the decision to axe them was nothing at all to do with the fact that the boys just couldn't stop themselves when Murdoch came under heavy fire last year.

No matter what else John Oliver does, the f*ckeulogy will always be his greatest contribution to humanity.

I don't know anything about Breitbart other than what has been said in this thread, and I don't feel much need to fill my life with partisan hatred right now. Not sure why I'm in this thread at all in fact. Or why I am eating this big bag of popcorn.

And why are you wearing a hula skirt, inside?

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Atras wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

Additionally, I believe that several of them no longer post in P&C for various reasons. Not really kosher to jump back into an argument when one side can no longer defend its position.

Isn't that why it isn't cool to speak ill of the dead?

:lol:

I'm not dead!

Wow... I remember the last time I was in a thread with Wordsmythe. And now he's gone. Shocking. Reminds me of that doctor in Catch 22, it does.

Man, it seems like I just saw him today, you know? *sniff*