Interesting Kickstarter Catch-All

So it's kind of a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation? If people don't back a game, it won't get made. So it's either back something that interests you, in the hopes that one day you might get to play it, or don't back it and likely never even have a chance to check it out on shelves. I mean, it's certainly a First World Problem, especially for gamers, since we have SO MUCH CONTENT to occupy us in the meantime; but for me, that's why I won't stop backing game projects: I have enough to occupy my time while I wait for kickstarter projects to reach completion. I back a project not because I just have to play it then and there (or soonish), but because the gameplay concept, content etc. interests me and I know that when it does come out I will enjoy it-- or at the very least, I want to support the developers.

It is kind of an odd thing, in that buying into a kickstarted game requires far, FAR more patience than most gamers are used to. Before Kickstarter, we were generally in the dark on a game's existence, almost up until the moment it was released. Most never talked about the time spent developing a game, because most never really knew (I know for a fact Dead Space took at least 4 years to develop, for instance, though EA only first announced it a year before release). It's something that Kickstarter consumers who were otherwise clueless as to the game development process have to reconcile within themselves, as development becomes more and more transparent. Rome wasn't built in a day, after all.

Not to say that one's decision not to back a Kickstarter game project is wrong or anything. It's just that I simply disagree with the reasoning. I'm not saying, either, that your individual contribution would make or break a project; but I do feel that backing a Kickstarter project is much more of a VC endeavor with the end product as a reward than it is the purchasing of a product to eventually be released.

It also depends on the individual project. Currently my oldest outstanding Kickstarter is a board game that is as of now a year past its projected shipping date. (They're currently projecting shipment next April.) OTOH I've gotten at least one physical shipment less than a month after the Kickstarter ended. So, it varies.

I think that if you back a game or project like you would do a pre-order, you're doing it wrong

I think it's fair to expect something in return but you REALLY gotta have the mindset of making a donation. Otherwise, you'll be frustrated. I guess I'm lucky because a lot of the games and projects I kickstarted have come to fruition (Pinball Arcade tables, Valdis Story, the Larry remake, Takedown, Shadowrun Returns and the Ouya among others).

Someone mentionned that NONE of the stuff they've backed in the last 2 years has shipped yet. I get how that can get really annoying after a while!

I've had pretty mixed results, but that's more or less what I always expected. This isn't a purchase, it's patronage, and like all patronage, sometimes you won't like what you sponsored. And some of the teams are certainly more ethically challenged than others, so treading carefully is important.

The way I figure it is this: a backed project is money gone, probably forever, and then maybe I'll get something cool a year later. Or maybe not. But as long as I felt good about backing the project at the time, then I got my money's worth right there, and the actual product is gravy.

I think the overall process might be a little bit like angel investing.... most of the time, it doesn't work out, but sometimes you get something that's just wicked cool, worth all the rest of the money. The OGRE game, for instance, looks like it's going to be in that category.

Malor wrote:

The OGRE game, for instance, looks like it's going to be in that category.

I am patiently waiting for my tracking number to hit my email

McIrishJihad wrote:
Malor wrote:

The OGRE game, for instance, looks like it's going to be in that category.

I am patiently waiting for my tracking number to hit my email :)

So say we all.

I've received two complete kickstarter/indiegogo projects so so far, although the stretch goal rewards for both are still a bit in the future, and have seen one indiegogo project come to completion, although there were no goods for me to receive from it.

I expect most of my backed projects will miss their deadline, and I'm fine with that. With 14 projects backed (good grief!) but not completed, I would be shacked if all of them successfully produce on their pitches. I have reasonable guesses on which ones those will be too.

That's just how it goes.

Hooray! My Velociraptor Cannibalism has arrived

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It looks and feels really high quality, excited to give it a go!

AP Erebus wrote:

Hooray! My Velociraptor Cannibalism has arrived

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It looks and feels really high quality, excited to give it a go!

I am waiting on mine. It just cleared customs today!!! Yay!

I still regret not Kicking that one!

So, I wanted to back River City Ransom. But seeing I must consider it a preorder didn't backed it.

Now, they are just asking for it.

They are accepting donation after the kickstarter thru their web pages.

http://rivercityransom.com/kickstarter

Is that legit?

The have reached the goal, so, they will ship the game at one point, that's the pledge, right? So that's a preorder now?

Manach wrote:

http://rivercityransom.com/kickstarter

Is that legit?

The have reached the goal, so, they will ship the game at one point, that's the pledge, right? So that's a preorder now?

Heehee. I hope that game does pull through, even though it's one of the more bizarre Kickstarters I've seen...

I mean they are licensing the rights to make a sequel to the North American release of a game from a franchise that is still going in Japan. Weird they weren'tmkickstarting a localization of the games that have released between River City Ransom and now.

Manach wrote:

So, I wanted to back River City Ransom. But seeing I must consider it a preorder didn't backed it.

Now, they are just asking for it.

They are accepting donation after the kickstarter thru their web pages.

http://rivercityransom.com/kickstarter

Is that legit?

Shadowrun Returns did something very similar. That was how I bought the game.

I really wanted to buy in at the Disasterpiece level of rcr. This may be a good second chance to do that.

These guys are so close...

I know they get money anyway due to the indiegogo thing, but they are only a few hundered from their goal and there are lots of $30 3D printed catapults and flowers left available if you don't want any UV curable resin.

manta173 wrote:

These guys are so close...

I know they get money anyway due to the indiegogo thing, but they are only a few hundered from their goal and there are lots of $30 3D printed catapults and flowers left available if you don't want any UV curable resin.

They made it...

OK, I'll never play but I may have to back this just because of the sheer bizarreness of it all.

Ever Jane: The Jane Austen MMORPG

Kickstarter wrote:

In the virtual world of Jane Austen, it is not about kill or be killed, but invite and be invited with gossip our weapon of choice.

tanstaafl wrote:

OK, I'll never play but I may have to back this just because of the sheer bizarreness of it all.

Ever Jane: The Jane Austen MMORPG

Kickstarter wrote:

In the virtual world of Jane Austen, it is not about kill or be killed, but invite and be invited with gossip our weapon of choice.

Well, if that succeeds, I know what we're getting Rabbit to play during the relevant GWJ fundraiser. Actually, it sounds pretty cool.

lol

Wow. Apparently Steve Jackson's house was destroyed in the Austin flooding last night.

Tanglebones wrote:

Wow. Apparently Steve Jackson's house was destroyed in the Austin flooding last night.

I can't imagine all the awesome treasures that were lost with such an event.

Hopefully the OGRE HQ is ok. Nothing would suck more than having to write off 80% of the product due to flooding in Austin.

The 7th Guest 3

WHY? WHY? FOR THE LOVE OF CTHULHU, WHY?

tanstaafl wrote:

The 7th Guest 3
WHY? WHY? FOR THE LOVE OF CTHULHU, WHY?

I've mixed feelings on this one. On one hand, I loved 7th Guest as a kid, and it's still one of my favorite games to this day. On the other hand, I really feel the era of FMV has passed...

tanstaafl wrote:

The 7th Guest 3

WHY? WHY? FOR THE LOVE OF CTHULHU, WHY?

Looks like I know what my next podcast will be about

Don't get me wrong; I loved 7th Guest and 11th Hour when they came out. But I grabbed them again recently on GoG and... they really haven't aged well. They're basically just collections of puzzles that would look more at home in a mobile game these days. There are FMV cut scenes giving the story, but there is a very distinct separation between gameplay and story. They actually released a later collection called Stauf's Fun House that was just the puzzles; that's how cleanly they could be separated.

And ignore the acting in the cut scenes.

So yeah, groundbreaking in their day but probably best regarded as historical artifacts now.

If you're a fan of games like Mafia, Werewolf, The Resistance, and other "hidden roles" style games - I've recently backed Two Rooms and a Boom after playing it at Origins this year.

It sorta promises to be the mother of all hidden roles games.

The base game is that players are split into two rooms/areas. They are then randomly dealt cards, assigning them to the red team, or the blue team. The blue team has a player that will be The President. Red has a "Bomber".

Each "room" elects a leader, and every few minutes the leader of each room sends someone from their room, to the opposing room (hostage exchange).

After a few such trades, the bomb goes off killing everyone in that room. If the bomber is in the room with the president - the remaining red players win. Otherwise the blue team wins.

The game then has elements to complicate this original goal (The President is dying and must meet up with The Doctor for his team to win. The Bomber needs to meet an Engineer or the bomb won't go off), or even create their own weird goals (The Zombie must infect EVERYONE in the game so that all the people alive at the end are Zombies).

Very fun party game for 6-30 people, and one that I've been eagerly waiting to make it to KickStarter.

The stretch goals have been adding 5 cards/roles at a time to the game - there's a library in the print-and-play version of something like 150 different roles, so it's exciting to see so much getting added in.

Another Japanese TTRPG translation project from a GWJ alumnus: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/diamondsutra/ryuutama-natural-fantasy-role-playing-game

Destruction Derby-esque Next Car Game gets a kickstarter.

Lavabit has a Kickstarter up to clean up and release the source code for it's backend. For those who don't know what Lavabit is, it's the software Snowden used to leak the NSA infoamtion.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...

bombsfall wrote:
kazooka wrote:

Backed. The colors in that video are sooo nice.

We created new colors for it.

Blurple

Grorange

Sadly, blurple is not new.

1993 through 1994 The craft remained unchanged with the 61X cases and blue/purple color paint commonly referred to as "blurple".

Incidentally, those tippy things can be tons of fun (almost said a 'blast') to ride, but you will never look cool doing it.