Interesting Kickstarter Catch-All

wordsmythe wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Shadowrun

Whelp, there goes $30 of my money.

Yeah, didn't think I needed to talk anyone into this. You're either excited or not.

We've got a thread about it over here, for those who are interested in gushing even more.

After a bunch of old vets like the Wasteland and Shadowrun guys getting in on this, I really hope the old Sir-Tech guys are considering it. I would pay for a proper Jagged Alliance or Wizardry sequel within seconds.

Nice to see "traditional" game companies using kickstarter in droves. I'm hoping this model is here to stay (if games gets delivered as promise).

Quick! Someone acquire the Rifts license and make an rpg game with TBS battles. I'd be in on that too as I prefer the Rifts world to Shadowrun's. Lovecraft-inspired > Tolkein-inspired

garion333 wrote:

Quick! Someone acquire the Rifts license and make an rpg game with TBS battles. I'd be in on that too as I prefer the Rifts world to Shadowrun's. Lovecraft-inspired > Tolkein-inspired

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garion333 wrote:

Shadowrun

AAAH!!

*whips out credit card*

SixteenBlue wrote:
demonbox wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Well, it didn't take long to jump the shark.

I wonder when that phrase will jump the shark.

Never.

Never say never.

Thirteenth wrote:
SixteenBlue wrote:
demonbox wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Well, it didn't take long to jump the shark.

I wonder when that phrase will jump the shark.

Never.

Never say never.

I seriously need to step away from Kickstarter. $100 into DoubleFine and then backing Wasteland 2, LSL, Shadowrun and just now Starlight Inception.

Kickstarter backing is kind of addictive. I just backed my 20th project...

It will be interesting to see what effect the JOBS act is going to have on all of this. For those who aren't aware, the recently signed law will make it possible for companies to offer shares in their companies rather than just a copy of the product or acknowledgement in the credits etc. So that people can be actual investors rather than (GWJ Podcast shout-out) patrons.

garion333 wrote:

Well, it didn't take long to jump the shark.

Official time of death will be when the lowest retarded denominator funds a Microsoft Kickstarter to develop Xbox 3.

Crockpot wrote:

Nice to see "traditional" game companies using kickstarter in droves. I'm hoping this model is here to stay (if games gets delivered as promise).

The "traditional" companies with "revenue streams" and "assets" and the ability to attract "investment"? Yeah, goody. And f*ck the indies.

Crockpot wrote:
H.P. Lovesauce wrote:

The "traditional" companies with "revenue streams" and "assets" and the ability to attract "investment"? Yeah, goody. And f*ck the indies.

You might need to enlighten me in a more civil manner.

He's saying it's taking money away from indie projects who actually need Kickstarter to survive, not just make the games they want to make.

H.P. Lovesauce wrote:

The "traditional" companies with "revenue streams" and "assets" and the ability to attract "investment"? Yeah, goody. And f*ck the indies.

You might need to enlighten me in a more civil manner.

Edit: Also I might need to clarify, when I said traditional game companies, I mean old game companies/designers doing games that can not hold up in the main stream market. (Double Fine, Brian Fargo, Shadowrun designer, Christian Allen doing CQS, and etc)

garion333 wrote:

He's saying it's taking money away from indie projects who actually need Kickstarter to survive, not just make the games they want to make.

Thanks Garion, any examples? From what I can tell it's only helping by bringing traffic to the site in turn brings more money to the smaller guys, like the FTL guys.

Crockpot wrote:
garion333 wrote:

He's saying it's taking money away from indie projects who actually need Kickstarter to survive, not just make the games they want to make.

Thanks Garion, any examples? From what I can tell it's only helping by bringing traffic to the site in turn brings more money to the smaller guys, like the FTL guys.

Not from me, I was just parsing out what I think he was trying to say.

If people are going to get what they want out of funding any Kickstarter, then that's fine with me. It provides a unique way to make direct market dollars talk. If people want to fund the Xbox 3 that way, they'd likely put money into that console regardless of whether it's up front or after release. The difference is that, if it's up front, they may have more of a say in its development and they'll see other projects that they might want to fund.

Does it take money out of indy projects' pockets? Sure. Paying for a cell phone or a trip to the zoo do, too.

I'm in on Shadowrun. That looks fun.

I've backed two things so far (WL2 and Lego Mecha on 3/30), can someone confirm something for me? Does Amazon Payments not take the money until after the close date of the project? I haven't seen the backings hit my CC statement online yet.

Found this on the Kickstarter FAQ;

If I make a pledge, when is my card charged?

If the project you’re backing is successfully funded, your card will be charged when the project reaches its funding deadline. If the project does not reach its funding goal, your card is never charged. That's why we call them pledges.

Seems to me (I haven't funded anything yet) that everyone gets charged at the end of the Kickstarter project.

soonerjudd wrote:

Found this on the Kickstarter FAQ;

If I make a pledge, when is my card charged?

If the project you’re backing is successfully funded, your card will be charged when the project reaches its funding deadline. If the project does not reach its funding goal, your card is never charged. That's why we call them pledges.

Seems to me (I haven't funded anything yet) that everyone gets charged at the end of the Kickstarter project.

I've funded a couple successful kickstarters and I can confirm that once the closing date hits, that's when you'll be charged (assuming the goal is met).

Thanks guys!

I thought this was an interesting one:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...

and if they can pull of this one, I think it would be fairly awesome, but I don't know if they have realistic view of the cost of development or not, it seems really like a low ask for what they want to do:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...

Tach wrote:

I thought this was an interesting one:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...

Uh, it's one paragraph. He doesn't even mention platforms (though it says mobile on the right side for the $10 donation area). The page needs work. Needs more info.

Tach wrote:

and if they can pull of this one, I think it would be fairly awesome, but I don't know if they have realistic view of the cost of development or not, it seems really like a low ask for what they want to do:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...

Well, clearly they're already making the game. It's my guess that these are the type of devs who work full time and only code part time, so I can see why the Kickstarter is so low seeming. As they say in the video, $60,000 = 6 months worth of work from them. Don't know how many people that involves, but if all they do is make games then they're probably all living in a tiny apartment or something.

garion333 wrote:
Tach wrote:

I thought this was an interesting one:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...

Uh, it's one paragraph. He doesn't even mention platforms (though it says mobile on the right side for the $10 donation area). The page needs work. Needs more info.

I definitely agree that this one needs work, but he does mention the platforms in the FAQ:

FAQ

What platforms will Table Zombies be available on?

Once Table Zombies is developed it will be available on both Android and IPhone

I'm not sure what the point of an AR game on a plain flat surface would be, but it could be interesting from a technology standpoint at least.

Sigh. Backing another one.

I enjoy modern games, but for whatever reason (I'm old) they don't come to me as naturally as the classics these Kickstarters are based on. With many modern games I find I have to adapt my tastes/gaming style in order to get the most enjoyment. With these Kickstarter projects it feels like these creators are adapting their games to fit me.
It's most likely nostalgia logic, but they've got my money.

Fun video

Here's a new indie game that looks really, really cool. A side-scroller that looks kinda like how Treasure makes 'em

Valdis Story: Abyssal City

interstate78 wrote:

Here's a new indie game that looks really, really cool. A side-scroller that looks kinda like how Treasure makes 'em

Valdis Story: Abyssal City

Looks cool. Always a plus to see it in action.