Borderlands 2 Catch-All

Blondish83 wrote:

Ok, I don't see anyone else posting this so I'm going to say it. I am not liking this game as much as BL1. I feel like they made the game more FPS and less RPG. I suck at FPS and I find myself fighting for my life every time there is more than 2 people attacking me. My shields seem to pop at 3 shots and cover doesn't seem to block anything for me.

Does anyone have any tips to help me? I have tried playing Gunzerker and Commando and am not sure if I have the desire to try another character. I loved BL1 so much and was so excited for this game. I find I'm forcing myself to enjoy it and feel like I'm playing multiplayer in TF2 (die 3 steps from spawn).

I always liked the game, but I found myself have some trouble too. How far have you played? Once I got 7 or 8 levels in, things got more manageable. I would suggest doing all the side quests to level your character and to raise you badass level. I'm playing a commando. I've found the strategy of not deploying my turret in big fights until I was close to death helped. i would thin out what i could then the turret would help and if I went down turret kills count for the second wind, so it would bring me back.

Fuzzballx wrote:

Rare skin and head i've found:

IMAGE(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/920115494490209475/C10CC1490618EFDB572B3DDD6ABBEDEEBF4A71A6/)

I want that skin sooooo bad ; I usually run a black and blue color scheme in games.

IUMogg wrote:
Blondish83 wrote:

Ok, I don't see anyone else posting this so I'm going to say it. I am not liking this game as much as BL1. I feel like they made the game more FPS and less RPG. I suck at FPS and I find myself fighting for my life every time there is more than 2 people attacking me. My shields seem to pop at 3 shots and cover doesn't seem to block anything for me.

Does anyone have any tips to help me? I have tried playing Gunzerker and Commando and am not sure if I have the desire to try another character. I loved BL1 so much and was so excited for this game. I find I'm forcing myself to enjoy it and feel like I'm playing multiplayer in TF2 (die 3 steps from spawn).

I always liked the game, but I found myself have some trouble too. How far have you played? Once I got 7 or 8 levels in, things got more manageable. I would suggest doing all the side quests to level your character and to raise you badass level. I'm playing a commando. I've found the strategy of not deploying my turret in big fights until I was close to death helped. i would thin out what i could then the turret would help and if I went down turret kills count for the second wind, so it would bring me back.

I'm level 8 with both characters and hit a wall with both. I have been trying that but I often find that by the time I notice I may need the turret, it's already too late and I'm in fight for your life and cannot deploy the turret. The Gunzerker ability just seems too weak. Maybe I'm making a mistake of thinking it like the Brick ability where you could run in and smash everything. I am not 100% sure of my badass level, but I know I've easily spent 20+ tokens on skill upgrades at this point.

Stele wrote:

What did you play in BL1?

Maybe we can help you figure out what new class will suit you better.

First Siren, then Hunter. After that i played Commando and finally Brick. My favorite character was my Siren but I enjoyed all the classes. I haven't played Siren in bl2 because of the change to the mechanic from a phase hop to a phase lock/control an enemy mechanic.

Got some new goodies last night.

I blew one of my two gold keys with a level 8 Zer0 and here's what I got:

IMAGE(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/541813125799978839/3990CFFC9846FEDA2FEE77700ADE77CC9C185131/)

I don't really like scopes on automatics but other than that, it's a very nice weapon for that class.

Here's a badass-looking sniper rifle I found. It kind of reminds me of Metal Gear, with the color scheme. When zoomed in, it fires a burst of about four shots with very little recoil, so it does pretty huge damage.

IMAGE(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/541813125799979778/DB4626BF6D870D6C4CC30425048981DBDEF6BDE7/)

This sniper rifle's not spectacular but it does look like it was made by Protoss, so I screenshotted it and sold it.

IMAGE(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/541813125799977279/A429D24237324801C877BCF24AE8272A7BB2CD68/)

I've been leaning pretty heavily on a triple-barrel explosive-damage shotgun. It makes a very impressive light show and can fire twice per reload, which is once more than it needs to turn just about anything into a fine mist.

AAAAaaaargh! Why did I open this thread?!? Stupid region availability.

I'd say that I'm drooling at your Protoss Sniper Rifle, LobsterMobster, but the truth is, I'm pretty much drooling over everything about BL2 at this point.

LarryC wrote:

AAAAaaaargh! Why did I open this thread?!? Stupid region availability.

I'd say that I'm drooling at your Protoss Sniper Rifle, LobsterMobster, but the truth is, I'm pretty much drooling over everything about BL2 at this point.

I feel your pain. I was supposed to get mine from Amazon on Tuesday, but UPS decided to miss my house by about two states. "Out for delivery" as of this morning.

Also, did anyone else pre-order from amazon? I ordered the 360 version and I was supposed to get the Mechromancer as a bonus. They sent a code for the gun stuff, but nothing for the Mechromancer. Is it the same unlock, or did Amazon screw me over twice?

I saw a youtube vid on a Minecraft easter egg and skin set. Didn't want to post it because it was kind of spoilerish. But it was a well done easter egg.

Could someone invite me to the Steam group please? Steam profile here

Cheers!

I just want to apologize to Kid_OK for playing a terrible session. Still fun, but I really have to be careful to not get too close in with Zero unless I am ready to cut something in half.

As for observations around the difficulty of the game relative to the first game, It seems to me that they have speficcally built areas to require a given character type to 'one-shot' the challenge so to speak. I am enjoying the challenge for the most part, but running into a close combat area with Zero's squishy self can be frustrating.

IUMogg wrote:

I always liked the game, but I found myself have some trouble too. How far have you played? Once I got 7 or 8 levels in, things got more manageable. I would suggest doing all the side quests to level your character and to raise you badass level. I'm playing a commando. I've found the strategy of not deploying my turret in big fights until I was close to death helped. i would thin out what i could then the turret would help and if I went down turret kills count for the second wind, so it would bring me back.

I agree with this.

Doing the side quests have kept my overall character level on par with the story missions.

Take note that the game will tell you the suggested level of any quest available, so if you're seeing a lot of missions flagged as "Tough" you may want to field some lower-tier ones first. Ranking up even a single character level can change a mission from Tough to Normal. I even had to take on a couple Tough side missions in the first zone in order to balance the rest of the unlocked missions back down to Normal.

Also, do as much exploring as you can. Finding a Bigger Gun can make all the difference in standard firefights. Look in out of the way places like building ledges, etc. Outhouses, car trunks, and such are considered “treasure chests” and yield buffed weaponry and gear. The also restock after a bit, so go back later if you’re not satisfied with what you have.

EDIT:

Just remembered that cover is your friend. I'm playing Zer0, focusing on sniping, so I tend to target from a distance before going in to clean up with automatics. Either way, I never engage in either situation without having quick access to cover that breaks line of sight/enemy gunfire. This is essential for taking quick breathers to let my shields recharge. You may find yourself surprised by monster closets now and again, but I’m rarely caught off guard and completely exposed with a playstyle that focuses on environmental protection at all times.

D-Man777 wrote:

Also, did anyone else pre-order from amazon? I ordered the 360 version and I was supposed to get the Mechromancer as a bonus. They sent a code for the gun stuff, but nothing for the Mechromancer. Is it the same unlock, or did Amazon screw me over twice?

The Mechromancer isn't out until mid-October. No one has it yet.

Gladiator after I blow his head off, "I am so goddamn angry!"
Playing a Zer0. Nomad yells at me, "Die ninja-face!"

Blondish83 wrote:

Ok, I don't see anyone else posting this so I'm going to say it. I am not liking this game as much as BL1. I feel like they made the game more FPS and less RPG. I suck at FPS and I find myself fighting for my life every time there is more than 2 people attacking me. My shields seem to pop at 3 shots and cover doesn't seem to block anything for me.

A friend and I were just having a similar conversation. We both Platinum'ed BL1 on the PS3 about a week before BL2 came out, so it was very fresh in our minds. We were SOOOO excited for BL2 and I had managed to get the loot chest edition pre-order, so there was a LOT of hype about it in our little circle (of the two of us...can that be a circle? anyways...). However, having played a few hours of the sequel, I'm not so excited anymore. I mean, I just got Darksiders 2 in August and blew 40 hours into that in a matter of weeks and I'd almost rather play that again than start BL2. Almost. I'm playing Axton, but I might switch to the Gunzerker, to see if he's more my style, but I just find it hasn't grabbed me like the first game has. Maybe I'm burned out, having finished the first one again so recently, but it hasn't wowed me.

Blondish83 wrote:
Stele wrote:

What did you play in BL1?

Maybe we can help you figure out what new class will suit you better.

First Siren, then Hunter. After that i played Commando and finally Brick. My favorite character was my Siren but I enjoyed all the classes. I haven't played Siren in bl2 because of the change to the mechanic from a phase hop to a phase lock/control an enemy mechanic.

Maya's Phaselock ability is dramatically different from Lillith's ability, I think Zer0's special power might map better, but I haven't played as Zer0 yet. One thing that I really like about the Phaselock is how fast it recharges. I am only level 7 with Maya, but so far the skill tree I am looking at isn't doing much with the Phaselock, so playing her as a sniper who can remove a nasty enemy from a fight for a few seconds is working well - it is very different from playing Salvador.

LobsterMobster wrote:
D-Man777 wrote:

Also, did anyone else pre-order from amazon? I ordered the 360 version and I was supposed to get the Mechromancer as a bonus. They sent a code for the gun stuff, but nothing for the Mechromancer. Is it the same unlock, or did Amazon screw me over twice?

The Mechromancer isn't out until mid-October. No one has it yet.

I believe you get the guns as part of the Premier Club so as long as you have the guns you should get the Mechromancer whenever it is released. You can check your Premier Club status by going to the DLC section in the main menu.

Yarg, I didn't get to play yesterday, and I have to go to a concert tonight. At least I have the whole weekend to play.

I'm playing the gunzerker, and I think his special leaves a little bit to be desired early on, but as you start to skill him out and get better guns you becoming much better. Remember that gunzerking is a 100% dps bonus (fire both guns at the same time...) and so you really don't lack for dps... I would really focus on survivability and the brawn tree for the first few levels. I think my guy is around 13 or 14, I've put every point into brawn and am basically working towards a built similar to this thread from the official forums. Currently I have 5 points in Hard to Kill and 4 points into Incite. The survivability helps and eventually I'll be dual wielding shotties melting faces like I'm entitled.

Also, that guide also makes me laugh a little bit.

I think that the other specials offer more in the early game because you get control over the battlefield a little bit... Axton basically gets a portable pet, Maya can take an entire mob out of the picture for 10 seconds, and Zer0 can stealth his way out of a tight spot. Early on, and really still to this point, I have used the Gunzerker ability to get me from low health to lots of health more often than not. Sometimes I'll pop it and blast out of cover with guns blazing though. That feels awesome.

Blondish83 wrote:
Stele wrote:

What did you play in BL1?

Maybe we can help you figure out what new class will suit you better.

First Siren, then Hunter. After that i played Commando and finally Brick. My favorite character was my Siren but I enjoyed all the classes. I haven't played Siren in bl2 because of the change to the mechanic from a phase hop to a phase lock/control an enemy mechanic.

Someone else said it already but yeah, Zero is probably closest to the old Siren, with a decoy/phasewalk combo ability, although it's on a very short timer to start the game. Has a nice melee tree and a nice sniper rifle tree.

w00t! Thank you Amazon for delivering my copy a day earlier than you estimated. Got started on my solo run last night, and then a buddy jumped into my game just as I was thinking of signing off, so we started a fresh game with different characters and ended up playing til 2:30am. TGIF!

LobsterMobster wrote:

The Mechromancer isn't out until mid-October. No one has it yet.

Mr E.B. Slugworth wrote:

I believe you get the guns as part of the Premier Club so as long as you have the guns you should get the Mechromancer whenever it is released. You can check your Premier Club status by going to the DLC section in the main menu.

Thanks, guys. I'll check for the premier club status when I finally get to play tonight. Though at this point I wouldn't be shocked if "The Brown" doesn't get struck by lightning, flip over and catch fire as it rounds the corner to my house.

Do mini-bosses respawn? I ran into one last night that I had killed during a quest, but he was back in the area when I returned for another quest. It doesn't bother me, but it makes it a pain in the arse.

jonfentyler wrote:

Do mini-bosses respawn? I ran into one last night that I had killed during a quest, but he was back in the area when I returned for another quest. It doesn't bother me, but it makes it a pain in the arse.

Yes.

Tel wrote:

I'm playing the gunzerker, and I think his special leaves a little bit to be desired early on, but as you start to skill him out and get better guns you becoming much better. Remember that gunzerking is a 100% dps bonus (fire both guns at the same time...) and so you really don't lack for dps... I would really focus on survivability and the brawn tree for the first few levels. I think my guy is around 13 or 14, I've put every point into brawn and am basically working towards a built similar to this thread from the official forums. Currently I have 5 points in Hard to Kill and 4 points into Incite. The survivability helps and eventually I'll be dual wielding shotties melting faces like I'm entitled.

Also, that guide also makes me laugh a little bit.

I think that the other specials offer more in the early game because you get control over the battlefield a little bit... Axton basically gets a portable pet, Maya can take an entire mob out of the picture for 10 seconds, and Zer0 can stealth his way out of a tight spot. Early on, and really still to this point, I have used the Gunzerker ability to get me from low health to lots of health more often than not. Sometimes I'll pop it and blast out of cover with guns blazing though. That feels awesome.

Best quote from that link:

Who needs accurate weapons when you can zerg rush with dual shotguns and fist b*tches?
hannibals wrote:

Some Dahl miniguns (assault rifles) do about 3x more damage when you zoom in with them compared to when you fire them from the hip. There may be other weapons that get a damage boost from zooming in, but so far I've only noticed this effect with Dahl. There's a practice target in Markus's basement that is useful for getting damage values.

What I've noticed is that Dahl's SMGs are single shot from the hip, and 3-round bursts when zoomed. Most of the ARs I've come across are the 3-shot "miniguns" where the barrels rotate.

If people are keeping track of players they can join and those who would prefer some warning or permission: I am always happy to have someone jump into my game, so if you see [GWJ]Atras playing and you are within 5 levels of me, feel free to invite yourself.

jonfentyler wrote:

Do mini-bosses respawn? I ran into one last night that I had killed during a quest, but he was back in the area when I returned for another quest. It doesn't bother me, but it makes it a pain in the arse.

On the other hand, bosses usually give good XP and above-average loot.

Whoa:

Without going into detail, Pitchford also said there’s a “real possibility” for a Vita version of the game, and said gearbox has been approached by a company regarding a portable version of the shooter.
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The Mechromancer DLC will released on October 16 for $9.99/£7.99/800 MS Points for those who aren’t part of the Borderlands 2 Premiere Club

Atras wrote:

If people are keeping track of players they can join and those who would prefer some warning or permission: I am always happy to have someone jump into my game, so if you see [GWJ]Atras playing and you are within 5 levels of me, feel free to invite yourself.

Same--friend me up, feel free to join!

A couple other things popped into my head...

1. For those folks that that used the Golden Key for a low level purple/blue weapon... I don't think that's really that bad of a thing. Quite honestly those low level rares are probably the rarest in the game, so it will be nice to have those for any toons/alts you play. I did the same thing... (derp'd my way into level 9 purple guns) and am still using them at 14, and they've helped a lot IMO and now I'm kind of glad I did it.

2. For the inventory management nightmare, I use the keyboard 100% for managing inventory and working through most of the in game UIs. On any inventory/merchant screen you can use the number keys to navigate from page to page. It was the same way in BL1.

3. The game is significantly safer and more fun in multiplayer... besides the loot system. But, so long as folks keep it fair from a loot distribution perspective and shares the goodies, things work well.

Tel wrote:

1. For those folks that that used the Golden Key for a low level purple/blue weapon... I don't think that's really that bad of a thing. Quite honestly those low level rares are probably the rarest in the game, so it will be nice to have those for any toons/alts you play. I did the same thing... (derp'd my way into level 9 purple guns) and am still using them at 14, and they've helped a lot IMO and now I'm kind of glad I did it.

That's how I look at it. When you first get to Sanctuary (and gain access to the golden chest and shared storage), you're usually still scraping by with whatever you can find and are in dire need of good loot. Late-game, you have hours and hours of scavenging under your belt and one or two more purples won't make a big difference. So, Zer0's going to keep using that shiny pistol that popped out at level 8 and when he's done with it, Axton'll get it once he makes it to Sanctuary.