Borderlands 2 Catch-All

This game is a ton of fun, even solo. I have no idea why I never played this one or the first one...

Roo wrote:

I've only felt a couple bosses (DLC) were just crazy hard to fight, but each of them always has a gimmick...

Spoiler:

So for example, Truckasaurus or whatever it's called, can be killed from cover after the first time you die, and in fact, you can keep going back and buying grenades a such, then put your head out under that door, then duck back, repeat. There are classes that can kill him out in the arena, and then there is the ducking and hiding.

Duke Of Ork or whatever he's called, who re-levels himself 5 levels higher than you. Either you can run past him and run away. Which does work. Or you can kite the crap out of him (run away, run away, homing grenade, elemental over-time-damage, run away, run away, repeat), or you can get his stupid ass stuck between the fence and the wall as you enter the orc place. You die once, but then you can merrily sit on his head while he's stuck there.

I was pissed off not being able to kill Terromorphous on normal with 350 anarchy, and then I accidentally reloaded and forgot I had that skill that then restores 3% of your health per second, suddenly makes you VERY accurate, and VERY lethal. And then I killed him 10 times in a row to get all of his class mods.

There's always a weak spot, a gimick, a something. If you like discovering these, get joy from that. If you'd rather look it up, there's always someone bragging about how to solo something in 3 seconds.

I do both. Discovered the fence thing by accident, and know for sure it works in multiplayer.

I think Roo has it right. Without ruining any of the spoiler stuff, I usually find a too-tough boss to be manageable if I look at my skill tree and come up with a new build. Sometimes it allows me to squeak by, sometimes the fight goes from un-winnable to laughable. Sometimes I'm too stubborn to change, though, and log off in a rage, only to re-think it on my train ride to work the next morning

One of the many things I love about BL2 is the incredible variety of play styles, even within one class.

sithload wrote:

I think Roo has it right. Without ruining any of the spoiler stuff, I usually find a too-tough boss to be manageable if I look at my skill tree and come up with a new build. Sometimes it allows me to squeak by, sometimes the fight goes from un-winnable to laughable. Sometimes I'm too stubborn to change, though, and log off in a rage, only to re-think it on my train ride to work the next morning

One of the many things I love about BL2 is the incredible variety of play styles, even within one class.

That's key. One thing people forget is that the cost to resurrect and respec are both percentages of your current cash amount. So ultimately you will be able to resurrect/respec in perpetuity even if you have zero cash. Some classes require different skillsets for different bosses and respeccing (not to mention different gear) is an absolute must.

TempestBlayze wrote:

Does anyone have a favorite mechromancer build?

I'm running this build, with a Bee Shield, shock Conference Call, and corrosive Female Doggo. The nice part about the build is that I'm all-but invincible, the not so nice part is that Deathtrap is weak until you get a shield for him (which I don't have yet).

Before I was running a build with Interspersed Outburst, but the combination of Bee Shield and Blood Soaked Shields is too good to pass up. Slag doesn't matter when you're almost constantly doing a bonus 60k damage per shot.

the combination of Bee Shield and Blood Soaked Shields is too good

Oh thanks ahrez. That might have been what I missed on my last respec. I tried putting more stuff in Anarchy but might not have maxed BSB.

It works really well for me because I scored at level 28 and found a Legendary Mechromancer class mod. You need Cooking Up Trouble to keep your health manageable, since every kill is going to go costing 5% of your health, and Cooking Up Trouble is one of the skills a Legendary mod boosts. I haven't made much use of With Claws yet, but I've seen what it can do so I'm going to practice using it on enemies that get up in my face.

It doesn't even have to be a Bee Shield, though that's optimal. Any Amp shield + Cooking Up Trouble + Blood Soaked Shields is going to rip things apart.

My first character (Gaige) completed the story, and I immdiately (with salivation) launched into TVHM. Boy, did I not see all that carnage coming. I am humbled beyond measure, praying to the loot gods for tools to deal with the insanity, and now getting much deeper into the BFF tree than I ever had before. This will be interesting.

ScurvyDog wrote:

My first character (Gaige) completed the story, and I immdiately (with salivation) launched into TVHM. Boy, did I not see all that carnage coming. I am humbled beyond measure, praying to the loot gods for tools to deal with the insanity, and now getting much deeper into the BFF tree than I ever had before. This will be interesting.

Always keep a corrosive weapon equipped because you will see about 2x the number of armored enemies. In fact if you aren't using an elemental weapon you are probably doing it wrong in TVHM+.

Torgue explosive weapons work good too. I especially like Torgue pistols and assault rifles. (for blowing off limbs on armored targets)

fangblackbone wrote:

Torgue explosive weapons work good too. I especially like Torgue pistols and assault rifles. (for blowing off limbs on armored targets)

I love, love, love my Double Penetrating Unkempt Harold.

I finally found an explosive minigun that's performing quite nicely on the robots. I think I was mostly just surprised about how OP my guns were at the end of the game relative to how weak they were at the very start of the next one. I mean, I brought down the warrior in very little time with the purple weapons I had. The bullymongs in Chapter 1 were actually giggling at them.

FSeven wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:

Torgue explosive weapons work good too. I especially like Torgue pistols and assault rifles. (for blowing off limbs on armored targets)

I love, love, love my Double Penetrating Unkempt Harold.

In any other thread that would be so so wrong...

I take it I should wait to use my golden key until I am a much higher level correct?

They post codes pretty regularly, so you can use them whenever you need to upgrade your gear. However, it will get to the point where using green gear that's your level will be preferable to using purple gear that's 5 levels below you, so I wouldn't use them during the first playthrough. Once you max out though, you'd be better severed by farming for orange gear than using keys.

Where are these keys posted?

Their Facebook page, & Twitter account mostly. When the codes are for just keys, they tend to be different codes too, so checking both is worthwhile. This page should have all the still active Shift codes.

Infyrnos wrote:
FSeven wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:

Torgue explosive weapons work good too. I especially like Torgue pistols and assault rifles. (for blowing off limbs on armored targets)

I love, love, love my Double Penetrating Unkempt Harold.

In any other thread that would be so so wrong...

LOL that could very well be the most saucy thing I've ever posted.

TempestBlayze wrote:

I take it I should wait to use my golden key until I am a much higher level correct?

Use them when you need them. At max level the stuff they give you is pretty useless. The chest will never give you anything as good as what you can farm but as you are climbing the levels it can help to even out the difficulty spikes. I was using 3 or 4 keys every 5 levels or so.

new code out today for 3 keys

http://orcz.com/Borderlands_2:_Golde...

If anyone fancy's starting up a new game? I'm creating a few new characters. PM me or add me as a friend if your interested.

Lastly did anyone go through the game on the True Vault Hunter Mode or even Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode? Was it more enjoyable? Did you have to adapt your play style much?

Spikeout wrote:

If anyone fancy's starting up a new game? I'm creating a few new characters. PM me or add me as a friend if your interested.

Lastly did anyone go through the game on the True Vault Hunter Mode or even Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode? Was it more enjoyable? Did you have to adapt your play style much?

Yes and very yes. I beat TVHM without too much difficulty, but UVHM is a challenge at all times. I had to completely redo my build multiple times to find something that worked, and replace almost every piece of gear I had. Slag is extremely important in UVHM, so abilities that add Slag or weapons that apply it rapidly become much more valuable than before.

Yeah TVHM is great. Raid bosses and cool stuff, lots of nice things. But UVHM is a bit of a slog so far. Need to try again after a respec.

UVHM just requires that you do absurd amounts of damage. You can achieve this through:

1 - Slag
2 - Bee Shield

Remember that Slag has 3x (it is 3x right?) normal effect in UVHM, so it's obviously the intended way for you to play in that mode. UVHM also increases weapon swap speed, in case it wasn't obvious enough the devs want you to use Slag.

I've stopped using Slag myself, but that's only because I have a Bee Shield, Conference Call, and corrosive Female Doggo on Gaige. I expect I'll be returning to Slag once I hit 59 or 60.

For UVHM, I've basically gone back and forth between the DLCs and the regular missions, doing whatever I can until it seems too hard, and then switching to a different DLC.

I have found that solo, Big Game Hunt is freaking impossible as soon as you hit real witch doctors. They're your level, they are seriously difficult to kill, and the second you don't, they uber up everybody and you die. A lot.

For the rest, as soon as I found the main story missions too difficult, I do some Torgue, when that's too difficult, some Piratey stuff, then some Tiny Tina, and then back to main story. Much less frustrating to treat all of it as all of your missions, so you can pick from everything (but freaking witch doctors).

TVHM is more complex. Hmm. Well, not quite. It throws more enemies at you and increases their HP. That constitutes a difficulty and "bullet sponge" spike that really can only be dealt with by getting better at the "RPG" aspects of the game - character build, elemental matching, Slag, and critical hit locations. Once you're doing it right, enemies fall just as fast as they do in Normal Mode or faster, which explains why there has to be more of them.

A good build with good gear doing the right things will cut through TVHM enemies like butter and you don't even really have to aim all that well unless you're playing a sniper. Aiming in the general area of a critical hit location with an automatic weapon will get you enough to win fabulously.

The largest caution with TVHM is after you're done with it, you're going to find Normal Mode a borefest, what with the absence of Rabids and Supers and such. Players who want to experience different classes I would advise to Normal Mode all the classes they want before going TVHM.

OR

*conspiratorial whisper*

You can cheat.

If you want a new character in TVHM, just ask a buddy with a level 31 character to send his save file to you through Dropbox or something. Then you should be able to start TVHM immediately with the new class.

TLDR - TVHM is a total blast. Go play it!

Rykin wrote:
TempestBlayze wrote:

I take it I should wait to use my golden key until I am a much higher level correct?

Use them when you need them. At max level the stuff they give you is pretty useless. The chest will never give you anything as good as what you can farm but as you are climbing the levels it can help to even out the difficulty spikes. I was using 3 or 4 keys every 5 levels or so.

This. I probably have 20 keys in the bank from Shift codes posted here, or posted on the Gearbox Twitter feed, and I've used a number of keys as well.

Sometimes you get one weapon, sometimes you get several. They're not always what you need, but I've picked up a couple weapons that doubled my damage output on a weapon of choice. If you're stuck trying to advance, dying too much, and a respec isn't helping, definitely use a golden key or two and see if you get a weapon upgrade. Or, don't even wait - codes are released fairly regularly. More damage = more fun.

On the topic of golden keys, I've got 50ish keys, and have probably used at least that many. Don't be shy about using them regardless of the playthrough you're on. Just shuffle the guns you get around if it looks interesting.

Im up to lvl 42 I think with Gaige. Im on my second play through. And finding my self I have to back track to get some lvls to move on in the main plot... Just friend me, and if I am on. More then willing to paaaaaarrrtay! lol

Chin_Sack wrote:

Im up to lvl 42 I think with Gaige. Im on my second play through. And finding my self I have to back track to get some lvls to move on in the main plot... Just friend me, and if I am on. More then willing to paaaaaarrrtay! lol

Am I correct that all side quests should be saved for the third playthrough?

IUMogg wrote:
Chin_Sack wrote:

Im up to lvl 42 I think with Gaige. Im on my second play through. And finding my self I have to back track to get some lvls to move on in the main plot... Just friend me, and if I am on. More then willing to paaaaaarrrtay! lol

Am I correct that all side quests should be saved for the third playthrough?

Nah, only the only side quests you need to save for L50 are the ones with really good rewards; stuff like law and order are two common quest items folks save for the level 50 playthrough.