Downton Abbey Catch-All

From Justin McElroy:

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So how are hot, mega-hot, and the other one? ;P

fangblackbone wrote:

So how are hot, mega-hot, and the other one? ;P

Oh snap! (are we still saying that?)

Can't tell, the pics aren't showing up.

fangblackbone wrote:

So how are hot,

http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/1/media/rm1075494144/nm0001527

fangblackbone wrote:

mega-hot,

http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/1/media/rm2163326720/nm0001749

fangblackbone wrote:

the other one? ;P

http://www.imdb.com/rg/s/1/media/rm710519552/nm0278239

Did I get them right? Can you be more specific?

nooooooo

Spoiler:

Amnesia? Miraculously healed 'broken' spine? Eh, not great but I'll forgive it.

Spoiler discussion:

Spoiler:

There was no amnesia. The Canadian soldier was trying to put one over on the Crawleys. Note that really only Edith believed him at all and her only because she really wanted to.

I was listening to the soundtrack and realized that I missed the first couple episodes. I do have access to OPB. Then, I found out that you can stream them on the PBS website. Woot! The streaming quality is bad, but I can live with it.

I've forgiven Edith for being a rat. She's still quite dumb, and should have seen how doomed she was, but no one deserves that.

Spoiler:

f*cken Strallan, he's a weenie and a pussy, if you will, a weensie.

Well, the first 30 minutes of the first episode had me thinking that I wish it would have just stopped at season 2. Then, it kinda got great again. Poor Edith, yeah, you really have to feel for her now.

I just noticed while watching episode 2 that Matthew has gotten faaaaaaat. I wonder if they had him gain a bit of weight on purpose.

Just finished series 3, including the Christmas episode. This show just gets better and better, it's remarkably well written.

Saw people complaining on twitter that the show appeals to people who are nostalgic for a time when people knew their place. I can only assume that those people haven't watched since the first episode or two.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I was listening to the soundtrack...

I'm finding it to difficult to remember if there is any real variety in the score, I've only ever discerned two or three distinct themes. The only exceptions I'd make are some diegetic moments and the Holiday motifs.

mr_n00b wrote:
tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I was listening to the soundtrack...

I'm finding it to difficult to remember if there is any real variety in the score, I've only ever discerned two or three distinct themes. The only exceptions I'd make are some diegetic moments and the Holiday motifs.

Yeah, the score, overall, isn't spectacular. It's just that one theme and the slight variations on it that are spectacularly sticky.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:

I've forgiven Edith for being a rat. She's still quite dumb, and should have seen how doomed she was, but no one deserves that.

Spoiler:

Part of me kind of hopes they go all the way with Edith and she commits suicide. But the other part of me hopes she finds happiness somehow. Also, so glad the one character doesn't have cancer. Nothing worse than a "dying of illness" plot.

Wife and I just started this weekend, and used our day off today to finish up season 1 and start season 2. Wow. Good stuff so far. I was not expecting to enjoy it so much although I knew she would.

Son of a...

Finished season 3. PBS be damned, the wife and I could not wait.

Evil, evil show writers.

My wife mused aloud that Joss Whedon must be secretly writing for them. Can't go a season without killing someone. :p

Stele wrote:

Son of a...

Finished season 3. PBS be damned, the wife and I could not wait.

Evil, evil show writers.

My wife mused aloud that Joss Whedon must be secretly writing for them. Can't go a season without killing someone. :p

The wife and I are really big fans of the show.
I grow tired of this constant killing of cast members.

Spoiler:

I absolutely disagree with the decision to kill Matthew Crawley. It felt like the show needed more tragedy for the sake of tragedy. Yes, with the birth of an heir the estate is still safe, but it felt completely forced.

Hobbes2099 wrote:
Spoiler:

I absolutely disagree with the decision to kill Matthew Crawley. It felt like the show needed more tragedy for the sake of tragedy. Yes, with the birth of an heir the estate is still safe, but it felt completely forced.

Well, given the circumstances I'm not sure what else they could have done with that character.

We finished watching Season 3 last night (pre-ordered the Blu Ray because I'm too impatient). Thoughts:

Spoiler:

I was really initially shocked by Matthew's death. Really saddened by it. He had grown into a strong, interesting character that had affected a lot of change in other characters in the show. I really was rooting for his relationship with Mary.

In retrospect, it's a brilliantly written episode. All the different pairings. All the different outcomes. A sense of danger about the pregnancy. All the small stories winding up for the good, for the most part (Poor Dr. Clarkson). And then, near the end, that gorgeously shot scene with the light streaming in behind Matthew and Mary in the hospital. The too, too happy professions of eternal love. (That should have been the tip off right there.) But then... the speeding car. My wife and I both said "Oh no. No no no. They wouldn't."

I'm really glad that I didn't know about that actor leaving. The final moments wouldn't have had the same impact. Last I heard it was Maggie Smith who wasn't coming back and I thought they might end with her death.

I also really appreciated what they did with Tom's character in the finale. How they used the maid's advances to not tell another story of an affair, but to propel Tom into a greater acceptance of his role in the family. And now, with Matthew gone, he's going to be thrust into the middle of things.

This was a fantastic season. Season 2 stumbled and got too soap-opera-y, but this year he pulled back on all of that and gave depth to some of the more minor characters — especially Mr. Barrow. He got Bates out of jail and allowed him and Anna some happiness. The worst bit of Season 3 was how he handled Shirley MacLaine's guest turn. Her dialogue was poor and didn't serve the story well.

mr_n00b wrote:
Hobbes2099 wrote:
Spoiler:

I absolutely disagree with the decision to kill Matthew Crawley. It felt like the show needed more tragedy for the sake of tragedy. Yes, with the birth of an heir the estate is still safe, but it felt completely forced.

Well, given the circumstances I'm not sure what else they could have done with that character.

Ah, that's interesting. Beats replacing the actor like American soaps.

It was a toss-up whether to post this here or the video thread, so I'm doing both.

Ha!

On the front page of Amazon today:

Dear Customers,

Good news for Prime members. We've just completed a deal with PBS to make Prime Instant Video the exclusive subscription home for streaming Downton Abbey's Season 3 starting in June, and all new seasons for years to come. Prior Seasons 1 and 2, already the most popular TV seasons on Prime Instant Video, are available now for catch up viewing—and will also become exclusive to Prime Instant Video later this year.

If you can't wait until June for Season 3, you can also buy each episode at Amazon Instant Video the day after it airs. And starting now, we're also making the last three weeks of this season's episodes available to purchase before they air on TV in the US. When you buy a TV Pass to Downton Abbey's Season 3, or if you already have one, you will receive all remaining episodes instantly.

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Thanks for being a customer,

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Founder & CEO

My wife and I wrapped up the last episode of Series 3 last night.

I hate to say it, but I hope the next series is the last one. I feel like they've just run out of ideas and have been treading water for awhile. Where the first series wrapped up its storylines but still felt like there was room to grow, the second and third series have felt uncertain about what they were doing and where they were going next.

I get the feeling they ran into the American television problem: they were contracted for three seasons, had enough storylines for three seasons, but then suddenly became hugely popular. So now they've had to turn the series into a bit of a perpetual motion machine but just don't know how to do it.

The show has been on a long, slow slide into soap opera territory for awhile, but the end of Series 3 tipped it over the edge. I'd like to see them wrap the show up, put a nice bow on it, and move on to other things.

Wow. I couldn't disagree more. I felt like Season 2 was very soap opera, and that Season 3 did a great job of pulling itself out of that tailspin, and getting to being more dramatic — with the "Mom from America" storyline a notable misstep.

As mentioned above, as far as the ending of this last season, their hand was forced.

But this year added depth to characters of the Earl, Tom, Matthew, the doctor, Barrow, etc. Season 2 dealt in caricature for the most part, and in Season 3 he really righted the ship.

Yeah, I'm entirely with lostlobster on this, series 3 was great.

I do hope they don't milk the cow too much longer. I kind of hope series 4 is the last so they can end on a high.

But they can continue exploring the feudal breakdown right to the present day and possibly keep it interesting.

So... new season.

I don't have my TV hooked up to the cable, so I'll be waiting on the Blu-ray's again for this season.

Just watched the first episode of the new season.

I liked it.