NCAA Football 2012 Season Catch-All

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Jucofett wrote:

I'm very nervous for the Iowa State/Kansas game tomorrow. If we win we become bowl eligible, but the way both teams have been playing the last few weeks I wouldn't be shocked if we choke away the game. Can you tell I'm a long suffering ISU fan?

Damn, that IS a long-suffering fan base. Much improved in recent years, though! Enough that I wouldn't have guessed you'd be worried about a game against Kansas.

Kansas led Texas until the last minute and took Texas Tech to OT in TX the last two weeks. In fact, they broke 400 yards rushing against TT. When you consider that they have zero passing game, it's insane how well they run. James Sims is the best back in the Big 12.

This annoys the hell out of me.

Today's schedule for the SEC teams in the top 10:

Alabama v. Western Carolina
South Carolina v. Wofford
Florida v. Jacksonville State
Georgia v. Georgia Southern
Texas A&M v. Sam Houston State
LSU v. Ole Miss

At least LSU plays an FBS team this week. That doesn't forgive their early schedule that included games against North Texas, Idaho, and Towson. At least two of those are FBS teams...I think. Hell, if I was an LSU season ticket holder I'd be upset – all three of those cupcake games were home games. You pay to go see real football games, not to have half of your games against over-matched, lower league opponents.

Wait. Holy crap. I stand corrected. Somehow LSU managed to schedule 8 home games this year? Ahhh...now I understand. It's not just playing cupcakes, it's making more money! (To be fair, ND plays at least one game outside of ND's home stadium that is considered a "home" game for the purposes of making more money. Ireland was a home game for Navy this year, Soldier Field was considered a home game for ND.)

Yeah. The way the schools force FCS teams to cross the country for slightly bigger pay days is kind of crappy. I think every series should be a home and home.

Tennessee vs Vanderbilt should be good tonight.

Spoiler:

Go Vandy!

DSGamer wrote:

Yeah. The way the schools force FCS teams to cross the country for slightly bigger pay days is kind of crappy.

Force?

Grumpicus wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Yeah. The way the schools force FCS teams to cross the country for slightly bigger pay days is kind of crappy.

Force?

Would extort be a better word? And it's not an SEC thing. Refusing to play any of these teams on the road is a common practice among all top tier programs.

DSGamer wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

Aggies are playing an FCS team this week. In our defense, we wanted to keep out series against the longhorns. And even still, I read that we have the 3rd-hardest schedule in Division 1.

I know Texas is bad, but saying they're an FCS team is harsh. :)

HIGH FIVE!

firesloth: I thought you were dropping this debate? Got your second wind, eh?

Grump: Logic need not apply here. We're kinesiologically raping these poor teams, while also paying them big bucks.

firesloth: I thought you were dropping this debate? Got your second wind, eh?

Sorry...I'm not really debating or trying to make any point, just expressing my annoyance. It's not specific to any conference or team (it just happened to be that I was looking at the list of games for the top-25 this week, and saw all of those line up).

Lots of teams schedule very weak teams. It just makes for not very interesting football, that's all.

In fact, it's a bit of a cynical strategy on the part of the ADs to squeeze as much money as possible out of the deal, I suppose. And for some of those smaller programs, they happily sign up for these games for the monetary payback.

Maybe we need to allow one preseason game that doesn't count toward the standings...

firesloth wrote:

Maybe we need to allow one preseason game that doesn't count toward the standings...

Yeah. Those FBS>FCS games should not count anyway. It's like an MLB team playing a AAA club, or NBA scheduling a D-league team.

That's also one of the problems the last 5-10 years and the expansion of bowls. There are so many bowl games now that if you didn't count FCS wins some years, enough programs wouldn't get to 6 wins to fill all the bowl slots. It's a joke. The reason 6 wins was made as a minimum for bowl eligibility was when there were 11 regular season games and you had to have a winning record. Now with 12 games + conference championship, you get crap like UCLA last year.

Jayhawker wrote:
Grumpicus wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Yeah. The way the schools force FCS teams to cross the country for slightly bigger pay days is kind of crappy.

Force?

Would extort be a better word? And it's not an SEC thing. Refusing to play any of these teams on the road is a common practice among all top tier programs.

If Div I schools play Div II schools on the road, both schools lose quite a bit of revenue potential. Div II schools just don't have the same stadium capacity, and can't charge as much for the seats they do have.

Y'all can scoff against FBS-FCS matchups all you please, but Sam Houston almost beat Baylor earlier this year! And Baylor doesn't play in this year's weakened SEC, no sir - they play in the barbaric, titanic Big 12 (minus 2)!

Only ONE team in this year's pretender SEC had the guts to schedule Sam Houston - cross-state rivals, the Texas Aggies! Thrilling matchup? No doubt. Compelling, you say? Indeed!

Can't wait? You won't have to for long! This epic Battle on the Brazos is coming to you in under three hours!!!!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...

1 BIG 12 (A) = 81.92 81.92 ( 1) 10 81.96 ( 1)
2 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 80.94 80.90 ( 2) 14 80.98 ( 2)
3 PAC-12 (A) = 79.90 78.72 ( 3) 12 79.29 ( 3)
4 BIG TEN (A) = 75.39 74.70 ( 4) 12 74.88 ( 4)
5 I-A INDEPENDENTS (A) = 73.67 73.69 ( 5) 4 73.67 ( 5)
6 BIG EAST (A) = 70.06 69.53 ( 7) 8 69.59 ( 7)
7 ATLANTIC COAST (A) = 69.68 70.05 ( 6) 12 69.92 ( 6)

Go Wofford...!

And, man, Iowa is having issues this season.

Hey, what time does Notre Dame take on world-beaters Wake Forest, anyway?

Hehehe...

But really, since when are we confusing an ACC team with an FCS team?

I'm with Jayhawker in that they should not count victories over FCS teams toward BCS standings. Or toward the eventual decision for playoff teams.

And, I didn't appreciate SHSU's level of play. Although, it was Baylor...have they stopped any offense this year?

Well, only one FCS win counts toward the six minimum. While it would be nice to not count any of them, it would essentially just take a ton of money away from from those schools. The NCAA is just protecting them and exploiting them at the same time.

What I think is interesting is the SEC's strategically using the FCS teams late in the season rather than early. It's a good way to avoid a late season loss, which hurts more than an early season loss the way the BCS relies on polls. It's also a good way to get a nice warm-up game before attacking the last game or two of the season.

Sam actually held us to 7 in the first quarter - Bama allowed 20!

34 - 0 now.

Johnny just threw a pass that went 80 yards.

He missed the point after, though.

Come on UCLA I know you can do it...

Gumbie wrote:

Come on UCLA I know you can do it...

See, I'm actually pulling for the USC Cheatin' Kiffens because the Ags are competing with UCLA for a recruit.

And every week after this, actually. I should just get a USC shirt at this point.

Johnny Football tried to kick a PAT?

Tried. There are some things he can't do, apparently!

He had the distance, not the aim, apparently. Which is the same as our actual kicker.

Crazy Baylor - K State game so far.

I usually only pull for Baylor once a year, but I'm pulling hard for them right now.

7 - 7, Baylor is driving very smoothly right now.

Edit: Baylor's QB looks like the wanna-be from Napolean Dynamite.

Baylor's offense cannot be stopped!

At least, not by KSU. 14 - 7.

I'm loving our 3rd string QB! Go ISU.

Oregon goes for it on 4th and 1, and Stanford stuffed 'em! They are now driving!

Stanford 7, Oregon nada!

Go Cardinal! Go Bears!

No bowl this year and I'm so apathetic at this point I don't really care. The man that hired the worst coach in college football received a raise and an extension this week. Not hopeful for the coaching hire with Tennessee and Auburn in coming open after the season. Petrino literally fell into his lap and before that happened we were going to hire Jim Grobe. The Jim Grobe that was embarrassed by Notre Dame today.

Oh well, basketball season started last week. Maybe I can get excited about that.

Still plenty of good football to be played.

Looks like K-State might be in trouble.

Baylor just gift-wrapped an INT to K State. Into heavy coverage. So dumb.

Still, 14 - 7 Baylor and 7 - 0 Stanford.

University of Maryland in talks to join the Big Ten

Wow, and they would have to pay the whole $50MM exit penalty. For a school that just cut 7 different sports because they couldn't pay for them? That is amazing.