NCAA Football 2012 Season Catch-All

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Never too early to start. I would just like to start by congratulating the SEC on another championship. We thought for sure that Oregon or Boise State should have gotten a crack, but now we know better. See you in 2013.

First year of post-Pat Hill Fresno State football. Not sure what to expect. Hopefully the new regime gets something up quickly, because it would be tragic to waste Derek Carr.

They should install the Air Raid and turn him loose

Talks Begin With an Open Mind on Football Playoff

While no decisions are imminent, a four-team playoff is among the four general options that the 50 or so possibilities discussed Tuesday will eventually be whittled down to. The others are to tweak the current B.C.S. formula; eliminate the entire B.C.S. except for a No. 1 versus No. 2 title game; and to play the bowl games as they exist and reseed teams after those games for a championship game between the No. 1 and No. 2 team.

I think this is a good start. I don't think four teams is enough, although Stanford and OSU would have made for a nice pod with Bama and LSU.

I still think winning your division needs to matter. It needs to be a ticket to the dance. If we gave the six AQ conferences a ticket, we could add two at-large and have a nice battle. But here's the rub.

This year would have seen this:

LSU
Oklahoma State
Stanford
Wisconsin
West Virgina
Clemson

Plus Alabama and Oregon

So even going to eight still keeps Boise state out, as does going with four.

But what if we extend eight AQ's, getting C-USA and Mountain West in? Now you add TCU and Houston. Of course, with re-alignments, this is all going to be vastly different going forward, but the principles are the same.

But a four team playoff or some dumb variation being kicked around comes to pass, we will get there. Basketball started out with just eight teams from 1939-1950.

1939–1950: eight teams
1951–1952: 16 teams
1953–1974: varied between 22 and 25 teams
1975–1978: 32 teams
1979: 40 teams
1980–1982: 48 teams
1983: 52 teams (four play-in games before the tournament)
1984: 53 teams (five play-in games before the tournament)
1985–2000: 64 teams
2001–2010: 65 teams (with an opening round game to determine whether the 64th or 65th team plays in the first round)
2011–present: 68 teams (four play-in games in the first round before all remaining teams compete in the second round)

I'm willing to accept a half-assed proposal now, because the money would create a drive to expand it. I think a 16 team tourney featuring 12 conference winners and four at-large berths would create 15 games with far higher ratings and interest than anything we have now. And it would do it in four weeks. And in that fourth week, we will not watch two teams that have been sitting for 5-6 weeks waiting to play, so the quality of play would be much better.

Jayhawker wrote:

I'm willing to accept a half-assed proposal now, because the money would create a drive to expand it.

This sums up my thoughts (and hopes) exactly.

I think a 16 team tourney featuring 12 conference winners and four at-large berths would create 15 games with far higher ratings and interest than anything we have now. And it would do it in four weeks. And in that fourth week, we will not watch two teams that have been sitting for 5-6 weeks waiting to play, so the quality of play would be much better.

Agreed.

The day this happens is the day, IMO, that college football has a legitimate championship. Where every team has a clearly defined pathway to competing for the championship, where they're not at the mercy of being judged by people who, by definition, can't even watch all of the performances that they're judging.

And that's the day that the college football postseason becomes something I watch, instead of something I just fast-forward through to watch individual draft prospects.

RIP Joe Paterno. I have no idea what to say at this point, or how this will shake out, so i'll leave it at that.

EDIT: Or not, apparently.

Prederick wrote:

RIP Joe Paterno. I have no idea what to say at this point, or how this will shake out, so i'll leave it at that.

EDIT: Or not, apparently.

I think we'll be saying it soon. The family has been called to his side. It's just a shame such a stellar career will be marred by such a tragic ending.

Jayhawker wrote:

I'm willing to accept a half-assed proposal now, because the money would create a drive to expand it. I think a 16 team tourney featuring 12 conference winners and four at-large berths would create 15 games with far higher ratings and interest than anything we have now. And it would do it in four weeks. And in that fourth week, we will not watch two teams that have been sitting for 5-6 weeks waiting to play, so the quality of play would be much better.

Let's hope sanity and even greed prevail. Get the money to the schools and the NCAA and out of the hands of these bowl committees and commissioners and whoever else has a hand in the pie right now.

And hey CardStrong! Charlie is doing a helluva job on the recruiting trail for Louisville so far. Couple of 4* LBs the first week of Jan, and some more Florida kids the last couple weeks. Scout and Rivals have us at 31st right now overall.

Jeff-66 wrote:
Prederick wrote:

RIP Joe Paterno. I have no idea what to say at this point, or how this will shake out, so i'll leave it at that.

EDIT: Or not, apparently.

I think we'll be saying it soon. The family has been called to his side. It's just a shame such a stellar career will be marred by such a tragic ending.

Not even 24 hours later.

Wow.

I thought this might be the ole "old guy dies because he stopped doing what he loved" but I guess he had been fighting lung cancer.

karmajay wrote:

I thought this might be the ole "old guy dies because he stopped doing what he loved" but I guess he had been fighting lung cancer.

I'd argue both. I do believe if he was still in the gig, he'd still be alive.

Rumors have Chip Kelly (Oregon) headed to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Between that and Kenjon Barnar and Darron Thomas declaring for the draft it's hard not to wonder if the NCAA is about to come down on Oregon.

Chip Kelly turns down Bucs, GM says

Oregon coach Chip Kelly has decided not to take an offer from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to fill their head-coaching vacancy, Tampa Bay's general manager said.

"His heart is with college football and Oregon and he's no longer being considered,'' Mark Dominik said Monday, according to the Tampa Bay Times.

Kelly and the Bucs had been deep in the process of finishing a deal Sunday night.

Signing Day. Woohoooooo

Yeah all on ESPNU though, which I don't have. Wonder if they're simulcasting on ESPN3?

EDIT: Yes, yes they are!

CardStrong!

President of Arizona State is pushing for an eight team playoff. The catch? His proposal would have left Alabama out this year.

His plan is for the highest rated Champions from the the 11 conferences to meet in a single elimination tournament.

We would have seen these teams this year:

No. 1 LSU vs. No. 23 West Virginia (a regular season rematch, of course)
No. 3 Oklahoma State vs. No. 21 Southern Miss
No. 5 Oregon vs. No. 18 TCU
No. 10 Wisconsin vs. No. 15 Clemson

Three of those teams are in the Big 12 now.

A&M already whining about the SEC:

Texas A&M Students Upset with SEC Seating Policy

SEC policy does not permit student seating behind the visiting team's benches. Texas A&M's student senate passed a bill Wednesday night voicing displeasure with the SEC's policy, according to a report in The Battalion, the student newspaper.

The bill stated that "any reduction of student section seating … is detrimental to the 'traditions and pageantry the 12th Man brings to Kyle Field.'"

The SEC rules require that the first 25 rows of seats behind the opponent's bench, between the 30-yard lines, cannot be occupied by students. That area at Kyle Field has not only included student seating but also Texas A&M's marching band.

Jayhawker wrote:

President of Arizona State is pushing for an eight team playoff. The catch? His proposal would have left Alabama out this year.

His plan is for the highest rated Champions from the the 11 conferences to meet in a single elimination tournament.

We would have seen these teams this year:

No. 1 LSU vs. No. 23 West Virginia (a regular season rematch, of course)
No. 3 Oklahoma State vs. No. 21 Southern Miss
No. 5 Oregon vs. No. 18 TCU
No. 10 Wisconsin vs. No. 15 Clemson

You know, I don't hate that idea. Seems like it would encourage parity even more, which makes for fun football.

gizmo wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

President of Arizona State is pushing for an eight team playoff. The catch? His proposal would have left Alabama out this year.

His plan is for the highest rated Champions from the the 11 conferences to meet in a single elimination tournament.

We would have seen these teams this year:

No. 1 LSU vs. No. 23 West Virginia (a regular season rematch, of course)
No. 3 Oklahoma State vs. No. 21 Southern Miss
No. 5 Oregon vs. No. 18 TCU
No. 10 Wisconsin vs. No. 15 Clemson

You know, I don't hate that idea. Seems like it would encourage parity even more, which makes for fun football.

Exactly. My hope is that it would still lead to a 12 (with the top 4 teams getting a bye) and eventually a 16 team playoff. We could get all of the conference champs, and some at-large berths like basketball has.

But where I want to see NCAA football get to is, every Champ is in the playoffs. It gives every team in the the NCAA a chance to win out and be the number one. But this eight team scenario, as well as the four team scenarios, are a step towards that.

Well, the eight team scenario screws the crap out of Notre Dame and BYU. No conference, no play.

Jayhawker wrote:
gizmo wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

Quote about a college president pulling his head out of his ###

You know, I don't hate that idea. Seems like it would encourage parity even more, which makes for fun football.

Exactly. My hope is that it would still lead to a 12 (with the top 4 teams getting a bye) and eventually a 16 team playoff. We could get all of the conference champs, and some at-large berths like basketball has.

But where I want to see NCAA football get to is, every Champ is in the playoffs. It gives every team in the the NCAA a chance to win out and be the number one. But this eight team scenario, as well as the four team scenarios, are a step towards that.

Well, the eight team scenario screws the crap out of Notre Dame and BYU. No conference, no play.

Ok, so 11 champs plus top rated at large?

As for ND and BYU being screwed, Notre Dame will find a way in the mix because, well, they're Notre Dame, and I don't expect that BYU is going to stay indie anyway. I think they are just trying to position themselves to move to a good situation. I was surprised they weren't more in the mix for the Big 12.

I kept hoping that the Big East could put enough pressure on ND based on every other sport to get them to join up in football. But the way things have been going the past year with all the moving, it seems even less likely than before.

But a new playoff deal that left ND on the outside might finally push the issue.

Stele wrote:

I kept hoping that the Big East could put enough pressure on ND based on every other sport to get them to join up in football. But the way things have been going the past year with all the moving, it seems even less likely than before.

But a new playoff deal that left ND on the outside might finally push the issue. :lol:

I think ND would have joined the Big 10 in all sports before joining the Big East in football. The east coast has a big market for ND, but they're more connected in many ways to the Big 10 and desire to be more like those schools from a research university perspective.

That's true, but the Big East is no longer on ND's list. The conference is in full collapse mode. Yes, you guys added teams, just like you added TCU.

There was a point where I wanted Kansas to join the Big East. but then teams started bolting and really weak, or out of place, teams were added. It's total mess that I think will eventually fall apart. Before Syracuse and Pitt bolted, I thought a merger wit the Big 12 would create an awesome 16 team conference. But then OU and Texas stayed put, and it put the Big 12 into invite mode.

Notre Lame needs to sack up and join the Big Ten already.

Looks like West Virginia cancelled their first half of a home and home with FSU....cowards

At least they have to fork over some serious cash for the privileged of running away

Ego Man wrote:

Looks like West Virginia cancelled their first half of a home and home with FSU....cowards

At least they have to fork over some serious cash for the privileged of running away

I'd hardly call them cowards. The Big 12 schedule is pretty brutal this year. I saw this comment over at KUSports.com:

The last 5 regular season games for TCU last year:
Vs Air Force, @UNLV, @Utah, Vs San Diego State, @New Mexico

The last 5 Regular season games for TCU this year:
@Oklahoma State, @West Virginia, Vs K-State, @Texas, Vs Oklahoma.

It won't be as dramatic, but their schedule from the Big East to the Big 12 is a substantial upgrade, too.

Ego Man wrote:

Looks like West Virginia cancelled their first half of a home and home with FSU....cowards

At least they have to fork over some serious cash for the privileged of running away

Starting to look more and more like West Virginia is going to be playing FSU in the Big 12 soon. All signs are pointing to FSU and Clemson jumping in for the 2013 season. We may see Georgia Tech and Maryland join them.

As sure as I was that Louisville was Big 12 bound, that has been upended by the latest TV contract and FSU's interest. Rumors are now that Louisville is in talks with the ACC to help replace schools on their way out to the Big 12 and SEC.

Oh, and today news comes out today that the Big 12 and SEC have agreed to a Rose Bowl-like New Year's Day bowl game between the two conference champions.

If the league champions are part of a four-team national championship playoff, “another deserving team” from the conference would be selected, according to the joint announcement. That seems likely given the success of both conferences in the current BCS. With the best remaining non-playoff teams locked into the Rose Bowl and to the new SEC/Big 12 bowl, a new postseason hierarchy may be forming.

The announcement also means an alliance between two power conferences as a counterbalance to the Big Ten and Pac-12 and their relationship with the Rose Bowl.

As much as I love BE hoops, I could get behind series with duke, unc, and the other transfers

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