GAH! I Preordered SWTOR and need some form of validation!

ranalin wrote:
Valmorian wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Every time im in a FP or Op or for that matter a pvp match im in awe at how it's always fun to watch and almost always different.

I used to do some PvP in MMOs but found that gear and level mattered far too much. If I lose in a PvP battle in TF2 I know it's because the player I'm up against outplayed me, or I made a fatal mistake in how I played. In an MMO that CAN happen if we are relatively equally matched, but I have been on both sides of the "Die because your equipment/level is inferior" problem in MMOs and it's harmful to the fun for me.

With the seperation of level 50s (first level that allows expertise gear) from everyone else that problem goes away in SWTOR.

Bullsh*t. If you are a level 20 or less, my level 45 BH will stomp your ass flat, if you are 35+ I have to work for the win. The level and gear differences matter, period. If nothing else, you gain so many more abilities as you level up, and points for your skill tree, which means more interrupts, long lasting ones, and more 'get out of jail free cards'. Your damage and HP scale, nothing else does. The differences in relics are pretty significant. Your level 20 stims and medpacks just won't do jack, whereas my level 45 medpack heals a pretty significant chunk of my health, every 90 seconds.

All the break out of the 50s means is you aren't facing people with maxxed out PvP gear, with the 'special' attribute that you can't get before that.

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never mind you are just trolling obviously

LtWarhound wrote:
ranalin wrote:
Valmorian wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Every time im in a FP or Op or for that matter a pvp match im in awe at how it's always fun to watch and almost always different.

I used to do some PvP in MMOs but found that gear and level mattered far too much. If I lose in a PvP battle in TF2 I know it's because the player I'm up against outplayed me, or I made a fatal mistake in how I played. In an MMO that CAN happen if we are relatively equally matched, but I have been on both sides of the "Die because your equipment/level is inferior" problem in MMOs and it's harmful to the fun for me.

With the seperation of level 50s (first level that allows expertise gear) from everyone else that problem goes away in SWTOR.

Bullsh*t. If you are a level 20 or less, my level 45 BH will stomp your ass flat, if you are 35+ I have to work for the win. The level and gear differences matter, period. If nothing else, you gain so many more abilities as you level up, and points for your skill tree, which means more interrupts, long lasting ones, and more 'get out of jail free cards'. Your damage and HP scale, nothing else does. The differences in relics are pretty significant. Your level 20 stims and medpacks just won't do jack, whereas my level 45 medpack heals a pretty significant chunk of my health, every 90 seconds.

All the break out of the 50s means is you aren't facing people with maxxed out PvP gear, with the 'special' attribute that you can't get before that.

i'll take the bait and sling bullsh*t right back. let me guess... you're a tracer spammer? i repeatedly kill lvl 40+ all the time with all my alts (commando, sentinel, scoundrel, guardian) which are around the lvl 16 range. Solo too. I'm also almost always in the top 3 for dmg and #1 quite a bit. Granted depending on the class i'm fighting it can take me longer than higher levels to get the job done but it's very doable and repeatable (healers are a bitch). Plus my biochem stims for my level heal me for 3/4 of my health. Much higher than the pvp stims.

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And for the record i absolutely destroyed lvl 50s with my shadow before the seperation of levels. It's definitely more about knowing how to play than what you ahve to play with.

WiredAsylum wrote:

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never mind you are just trolling obviously

If I was trying to troll, I'd do a much better job of it.

ranalin wrote:

i'll take the bait and sling bullsh*t right back. let me guess... you're a tracer spammer?

Tank. BH powertech, no tracer for me.

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And for the record i absolutely destroyed lvl 50s with my shadow before the seperation of levels. It's definitely more about knowing how to play than what you ahve to play with.

When you face off against people that don't know how to pvp in this game, and you do, then the gear doesn't matter, the levels don't matter. That's no surprise. When you are going toe to toe against someone that does know what they are doing, then the levels and gear make the difference, the 20 will lose to the 40 just due to the abilities the level 20 has no access to, and won't have for another 10 to 20 levels. Trying to claim otherwise is doing a disservice to the people you are trying to lure into the pvp side of the game.

LtWarhound wrote:
WiredAsylum wrote:

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never mind you are just trolling obviously

If I was trying to troll, I'd do a much better job of it.

ranalin wrote:

i'll take the bait and sling bullsh*t right back. let me guess... you're a tracer spammer?

Tank. BH powertech, no tracer for me.

edit:
And for the record i absolutely destroyed lvl 50s with my shadow before the seperation of levels. It's definitely more about knowing how to play than what you ahve to play with.

When you face off against people that don't know how to pvp in this game, and you do, then the gear doesn't matter, the levels don't matter. That's no surprise. When you are going toe to toe against someone that does know what they are doing, then the levels and gear make the difference, the 20 will lose to the 40 just due to the abilities the level 20 has no access to, and won't have for another 10 to 20 levels. Trying to claim otherwise is doing a disservice to the people you are trying to lure into the pvp side of the game.

You kinda made my point for me, but the ending is incorrect and you're wrong. Especially about it being bullsh*t. I've proven it time and again not to mention others have as well.

WiredAsylum wrote:

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never mind you are just trolling obviously

Judging by the name I would say this is kind of a troll thread!