2011 Community GOTY Results!

Wow, unless I missed something, a grand total of ZERO love for Serious Sam 3. Didn't expect it to break the top 20, but jeez....even Serious Sam Double D got votes.

Great job on compiling and presenting the results! Thanks!

Awesome job, and thank you. I quite liked the format too. Felt very GWJ.

My observation to add: it was a bad year for strategy games. Frozen Synapse at 16, Tactics Ogre (JRPG/Strategy from what I can tell) at 27, and Shogun 2 at 44. Will Crusader Kings 2 do a bit better next year?

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

It was my favorite mobile game of this year, but I generally can't stand mobile games, so it didn't make my top 10. Even if I had played it on an iPad instead of an iPhone, I don't think it would have been up there. There were too many places where I got stuck and had to put the game down for extended periods in slight frustration. When I would come back to it and figure out what to do, it didn't give me a sense of accomplishment. It just felt annoying. The soundtrack is probably my second favorite of the year after Bastion, however.

That was roughly my experience as well. I'd hit a wall, put it down for a few weeks, come back to it, progress a little further, and then it'd tell me to come back at a later time. Sure you can "cheat" if you want but the game wants to be played on its schedule and sometimes I'm just not in the mood for that sort of thing. I also found the sworcery sections way too fiddly and devolving into Myst style pixel hunts which annoyed me. So, in terms of raw "fun" Jetpack Joyride and Infinity Blade beat it hands down.

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AUs_TBirD wrote:

Wow, unless I missed something, a grand total of ZERO love for Serious Sam 3. Didn't expect it to break the top 20, but jeez....even Serious Sam Double D got votes.

Also got swallowed in the black hole that was Skyrim I think.

Gimpy_Butzke wrote:

I'm actually not surprised that Nintendo doesn't have a strong presence on the list. I don't typically see too much love for Nintendo in general on the site, and I don't really know anyone that still plays on their Nintendo products with any sort of regularity.

My Wii has been getting fairly regular use lately with Skyward Sword. Before that it was Kirby's Return to Dreamland and Donkey Kong Country Returns. The DS/3DS get a lot of regular usage as well. In fact, I have larger DS and Wii libraries than my PS2 and PSP, and the list of PS3 games that interest me is also small.

The Wii is a great companion system. You really are missing out on quite a few gems depending on what genres tickle your fancy.

BlackSabre wrote:

Hmm, should have read this thread earlier. Missed out on voting, but don't think it would have changed anything. Personally, BF3 was my GOTY 2011.

Nice format Clocky. It looks really nice.

You think? If you had voted, you would be responsible for pushing Battlefield 3 into the number 9 spot. Clicky click. Unless you also would have given Dragon Age 2 3-9 points.

Gunner wrote:

Awesome job, and thank you. I quite liked the format too. Felt very GWJ.

My observation to add: it was a bad year for strategy games. Frozen Synapse at 16, Tactics Ogre (JRPG/Strategy from what I can tell) at 27, and Shogun 2 at 44. Will Crusader Kings 2 do a bit better next year?

Every year is a bad year for strategy games, compared to the big AAA titles. Same also for flight sims and space sims (and, really, all sims in general). CK2 will not pull strategy games out of its niche, no matter how awesome it may be. There's just a very limited appeal for them, compared to everything else. Which is too bad to my way of thinking, but at least good ones are still being made.

Gimpy_Butzke wrote:

I'm actually not surprised that Nintendo doesn't have a strong presence on the list. I don't typically see too much love for Nintendo in general on the site, and I don't really know anyone that still plays on their Nintendo products with any sort of regularity.

I think I had 2 or 3 DS games on my list but none from 2011. Also, I don't usually play Nintendo first party stuff.

Nice work and an excellent display of the results. Thanks also for posting the raw data - although it would be nice for it to be on the first post.

Hyetal wrote:
BlackSabre wrote:

Hmm, should have read this thread earlier. Missed out on voting, but don't think it would have changed anything. Personally, BF3 was my GOTY 2011.

Nice format Clocky. It looks really nice.

You think? If you had voted, you would be responsible for pushing Battlefield 3 into the number 9 spot. Clicky click. Unless you also would have given Dragon Age 2 3-9 points.

Well it's definitely better than Dragon Age 2. Actually the doormat at my front door is better than Dragon Age 2, but that's another story.

Well then, I'm content that Battlefield 3 is now unofficially 9th. Also, Frozen Synapse would have got some love from me too. That is a great game that really deserves more attention.

EDIT: Just checked that list... Jetpack Joyride beat Space Pirates and Zombies... really people? Really? *sigh*

BlackSabre wrote:

EDIT: Just checked that list... Jetpack Joyride beat Space Pirates and Zombies... really people? Really? *sigh*

I regret nothing! /straps on shark-head jetpack and flies into a missile

Very nice tally write-up, Clock. Thanks for putting this together.

Love the format, awesome job! Thanks for all the hard work put in guys. Take a hard earned rest... until next year

The Witcher 2 got a lot higher up there than I thoguht it was going to go. I guess I'm not as alone in my love for that game as I thought. I can't wait for the trilogy to get rounded out with some epic sky ghost chasing!

Jeff-66 wrote:

Really, when you read between the lines, it looks to me like Skyrim was the real GOTY.

Well, as Shakespeare once said, "the devil can cite Scripture for his purpose," so let me throw out some statistics as a counter-point.

Skyrim was the clear winner in the #1 vote totals, but Portal 2 made its bread and butter in the upper half of the ballot as a whole; Portal 2 had more #2, #3, and #5 votes than any other game in the poll...and it wasn't far behind on the #1 (2nd place) and #4 (3rd place) vote rankings either.

In fact, if you expand the scope from #1 vote percentage to Top 5 vote percentage (minimum: 25 votes), you'll come up with a very interesting leaderboard:

Top 5 % Top 5 Total Title 90.6% 29 Dark Souls 86.7% 72 Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 75.0% 78 Portal 2 72.5% 29 Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings 72.4% 21 Saint's Row the Third

Skyrim still earned a lead over Portal 2 on Top 5%, but Portal 2 received more Top 5 votes overall and, ultimately, had the most Top 5 votes out of any game.

As a side note, I think those statistics show that Dark Souls could emerge as a big game in next year's vote as well (assuming that we retain the format). Over 90% of voters for Dark Souls felt that it was an "upper ballot" game, but only 32 people voted for it.

Can someone that is having fun running the numbers see what the results would be if we only counted games in the Top 5 places, but still weighted them. Top 3? What would the top 10 look like then?

OzymandiasAV wrote:

As a side note, I think those statistics show that Dark Souls could emerge as a big game in next year's vote as well (assuming that we retain the format). Over 90% of voters for Dark Souls felt that it was an "upper ballot" game, but only 32 people voted for it.

Perhaps, but I can't help but wonder if Dark Souls' reputation won't work against it. It's already seen as a game that's not only hard to master but hard to get into to begin with. I have no doubt that future voters who give it a shot will love it, but I don't know that there will be many. It doesn't seem to be something like Arkham Asylum that people will give a chance to as they hear positive things about it. It seems more like a game that most everyone who will buy it has already bought it, with just a handful of stragglers left to get it when the price drops.

Which brings me to Skyrim: it ranked well this year, but I doubt it will get even Classic GOTY next year. The concern about it being the #2 game twice in a row is a bit unfounded. Why? Because as enthusiastic as people are about Skyrim, everyone who is going to buy it and love it has already done so. It's like Dark Souls in that respect. Only a small number of people who play Skyrim from here on out will list it as their game of the year. If anything, expect it to show up on people's disappointment list next year as the uncertain buyers get it and discover they don't like it.

And for the record, I'm with hbi2k: next year's Classic GOTY will be Saint's Row the Third.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
OzymandiasAV wrote:

As a side note, I think those statistics show that Dark Souls could emerge as a big game in next year's vote as well (assuming that we retain the format). Over 90% of voters for Dark Souls felt that it was an "upper ballot" game, but only 32 people voted for it.

Perhaps, but I can't help but wonder if Dark Souls' reputation won't work against it. It's already seen as a game that's not only hard to master but hard to get into to begin with. I have no doubt that future voters who give it a shot will love it, but I don't know that there will be many. It doesn't seem to be something like Arkham Asylum that people will give a chance to as they hear positive things about it. It seems more like a game that most everyone who will buy it has already bought it, with just a handful of stragglers left to get it when the price drops.

This probably isn't the thread for this question but I've been wondering lately how many people gave Dark Souls a fair shot and didn't like it.

Jayhawker wrote:

Can someone that is having fun running the numbers see what the results would be if we only counted games in the Top 5 places, but still weighted them. Top 3? What would the top 10 look like then?

IMAGE(http://failstateblues.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/2011misccharts.jpg?w=634)

Quick explanation of these charts:
- Top 3 Score is Top 3 votes only, weighted as 3-2-1.
- Top 3 Score (Top 10 Weight) is Top 3 votes only, weighted as 10-9-8.
- Top 5 Score is Top 5 votes only, weighted as 5-4-3-2-1.
- Top 5 Score (Top 10 Weight) is Top 5 votes only, weighted as 10-9-8-7-6.

I went ahead and included the charts with the Top 10 weighting, since restricting the scale gives the upper votes an additional advantage. (Example: a #1 vote in a Top 3 scale has a 50% boost over a #2 vote, but only an 11% boost in a full Top 10 scale.)

Looking at these numbers, I should revise what I said earlier - Portal 2 really thrived in the entire aggregate, as it was always behind Skyrim in any configuration of the Top 3 and Top 5 charts. The 20 additional votes for Portal 2, even if they were in the lower half of the ballot, made the difference.

gregrampage wrote:

This probably isn't the thread for this question but I've been wondering lately how many people gave Dark Souls a fair shot and didn't like it.

Define fair shot. 2 hours with Saints Row is definitely a fair shot. 2 hours with Dark Souls is not.

If I'd played it sooner than Christmas day, Skylanders would have been in my top 10.

Dyni wrote:
gregrampage wrote:

This probably isn't the thread for this question but I've been wondering lately how many people gave Dark Souls a fair shot and didn't like it.

Define fair shot. 2 hours with Saints Row is definitely a fair shot. 2 hours with Dark Souls is not.

That's probably true but even 2 hours I would accept as long as those 2 hours didn't involve going towards the Catacombs or New Londo Ruins. In other words, 2 hours of the proper progression. I'm asking because I'm wondering if Demon's Souls reputation is doing Dark Souls a disservice. Dark Souls really does so much more right and I'm wondering if it's more accessible than people realize.

Woah, awesome charts OzymandiasAV. Is it easy to compile the top old games?

Dyni wrote:
gregrampage wrote:

This probably isn't the thread for this question but I've been wondering lately how many people gave Dark Souls a fair shot and didn't like it.

Define fair shot. 2 hours with Saints Row is definitely a fair shot. 2 hours with Dark Souls is not.

Yep. I played Dark Souls prejudiced already by what I thought Demon Souls was based on reviews, etc. Eventually when I gave it a second shot after reading the Brainy Gamer article I ended up loving it. Getting there took time, though. And it took coming to grips with what the game is and letting go of the frustration and learning from mistakes.

BNice wrote:

Woah, awesome charts OzymandiasAV. Is it easy to compile the top old games?

There's not enough data. I had originally included a column with the release date, but that's a lot of games to sift through, and release dates aren't always clear. For example, Assassin's Creed Brotherhood was either released in Nov. 2010 or Mar. 2011 depending on your platform. It just got to be too much work for the amount of time I had.

The only thing missing was a "This list goes to 11" statement. Oh, and an 11th game (or a #0, which could be even cooler than #1 :D)

Good job ClockmasterX

BNice wrote:

Woah, awesome charts OzymandiasAV. Is it easy to compile the top old games?

I couldn't run through the entire sheet (which would take forever, as ClockworkHouse already mentioned), but I was able to sort out the first ten non-2011 titles into the following list:

Score Title 97 Batman: Arkham Asylum 72 Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood* 59 Mass Effect 2 52 Limbo 47 Dragon Age: Origins 46 Bioshock 2 41 Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes 40 Game Dev Story 36 Metro 2033 36 Witcher

Even though Brotherhood did release as a 2011 game on PC, its first release was on consoles for 2010, so I just made the judgment call to include it in the list.

trueheart78 wrote:

The only thing missing was a "This list goes to 11" statement. Oh, and an 11th game (or a #0, which could be even cooler than #1 :D)

Like this?

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/VOa4a.png)
Darksiders of the Year — Darksiders

ClockworkHouse wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

The only thing missing was a "This list goes to 11" statement. Oh, and an 11th game (or a #0, which could be even cooler than #1 :D)

Like this?

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/VOa4a.png)
Darksiders of the Year — Darksiders

Hey, is that game any good?

I didn't know where to put this so I'll put it here. A bunch of Japanese developers weighed in on 2011.
http://andriasang.com/comzk3/4gamer_megafeature/

Ueda agrees with the GWJ community

Fumito Ueda
Creative Director of Last Guardian

Top Game of 2011: Portal 2. He praised the game's natural and believable expression, but described one area of expression in particular as exceptional: the turret cube.

I need to download this game asap. In Matsuno I trust.

Yasumi Matsuno
Level-5 Director -- Final Fantasy Tactis, Tactics Ogre, Guild 01

Top Game of 2011: Army of Darkness Defense (iOS)

This bit in Kamiya's section made me laugh

Hideki Kamiya
Platinum Games Game Designer -- Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe, Okami, Bayonetta

Top Game of 2011: Nothing in particular
Top Entertainment Content From 2011: 3D Classics on Nintendo 3DS
Challenge for 2012/Message to Fans: Kamiya said that he would like to announce a new game and make a comeback on the game scene and be known as more than just some guy who posts on Twitter.

Anyway, some interesting stuff there.

Jayhawker wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

The only thing missing was a "This list goes to 11" statement. Oh, and an 11th game (or a #0, which could be even cooler than #1 :D)

Like this?

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/VOa4a.png)
Darksiders of the Year — Darksiders

Hey, is that game any good?

awww yeah! I hear it's a Zelda clone for grown-ups. I thought it was great. It's probably worth discussing if it goes on sale.

mrtomaytohead wrote:

It's probably worth discussing if it goes on sale.