Did your pile become less of a mountain? - 2011 in review

Feeling self-reflective about the pile. Must be a day that ends in Y.

I mentioned earlier wanting to do a big Farewell to the Wii tour: get all the games I didn't play for the system or repurchase the good ones I traded away and have myself a nice little waltz through the system's best offerings with a great collection when I'm done. I trolled around on Amazon and came up with a shortlist of thirty-odd games that I want to purchase and play or replay.

That's so obviously not going to work. I don't have the time or the money, even at the end of the console's life cycle.

It's that connoisseur fantasy: that I'll have a collection that encompasses all the best games of a system, all the hits and hidden gems, that I can point to as evidence of my mastery of what is my favorite system of this generation. I want to be the Wii gamer who played everything good the system had to offer. I could do that, and be that, but it would mean not being up on the new games on the other systems I own and enjoy. It conflicts with that desire to play all the big games, all the "important" games on every system; it conflicts with that part of me that keeps trying to justify a PS3 and gaming PC just so I can have access to those platforms' exclusives.

In a nutshell: it's getting deep with a system versus getting wide with gaming as a whole. Obviously both ideas run contrary to the pile, but I think I need to figure out which sort of gamer I am, or how to better strike a middle ground, in the coming year so that I can manage my collection and my time smartly.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
It's that connoisseur fantasy: that I'll have a collection that encompasses all the best games of a system, all the hits and hidden gems, that I can point to as evidence of my mastery of what is my favorite system of this generation. I want to be the Wii gamer who played everything good the system had to offer. I could do that, and be that, but it would mean not being up on the new games on the other systems I own and enjoy. It conflicts with that desire to play all the big games, all the "important" games on every system; it conflicts with that part of me that keeps trying to justify a PS3 and gaming PC just so I can have access to those platforms' exclusives.

It's like you're in my mind...

ClockworkHouse wrote:
In a nutshell: it's getting deep with a system versus getting wide with gaming as a whole. Obviously both ideas run contrary to the pile, but I think I need to figure out which sort of gamer I am, or how to better strike a middle ground, in the coming year so that I can manage my collection and my time smartly.

This is precisely my problem as well. Too many games I want to play and not enough time

Slowly making a list of games that have hit the "I really need to replay that..." mark. Then I looked and realized that it's actually only 3 titles: Prince of Persia 2008 (very soon), Dragon Age 2 (soon), Red Dead Redemption (in about 6 months)

Guess it really helped replaying the Mass Effects this past summer, otherwise I'd have added those as well.

trueheart78 wrote:
Slowly making a list of games that have hit the "I really need to replay that..." mark. Then I looked and realized that it's actually only 3 titles: Prince of Persia 2008 (very soon), Dragon Age 2 (soon), Red Dead Redemption (in about 6 months)

Guess it really helped replaying the Mass Effects this past summer, otherwise I'd have added those as well.

That's an incomplete list as it does not contain A Link to the Past and a number of 8-bit titles.

My personal list would include:

Mega Man 2
Super Mario Bros. 2 & 3
River City Ransom
A Link to the Past
Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge
Mega Man X
Super Mario World
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Jet Force Gemini

and if it counts:
Metroid Prime 1, 2 & 3 via the Prime Trilogy

Wow, my list is pretty limited now that I look at it. Evidently, I just want to take a trip down Nintendo memory lane. Maybe I need to physically take an actual look at my games / include some PC games in there. Also, I've pretty much omitted anything from this generation and am not feeling anything from last gen at this exact moment. Except the Metroid Prime games, but I've not played through them on the Trilogy disk.

On my replay list for the coming year, I already have Deadly Premonition and Bayonetta. To that I'd probably add:

  • Paper Mario and the Thousand-Year Door
  • The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
  • The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
  • Dead Space Extraction
  • Metroid: Other M

And, like tomayto, I have the Metroid Prime Trilogy to play through. I played the first and third already, but Echoes is new.

Edit: Maaaybe a replay of Alone in the Dark 5.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
On my replay list for the coming year, I already have Deadly Premonition and Bayonetta. To that I'd probably add:

  • Paper Mario and the Thousand-Year Door
  • The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
  • The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
  • Dead Space Extraction
  • Metroid: Other M

And, like tomayto, I have the Metroid Prime Trilogy to play through. I played the first and third already, but Echoes is new.

Edit: Maaaybe a replay of Alone in the Dark 5.

Is 5 the reboot? I know of 1-3, but no 4, and the reboot. I admit, I made it all the way to the last encounter in the original and couldn't for the life of me figure out the (really dumb) solution. I (sigh) still haven't played Other M because I had other things to play while waiting on the wife who still has yet to finish it. Wind Waker is only just barely started and I've thought about Dead Space Extraction, but never clicked activate to get it through Goozex. Your list is one of games I've never played/beaten.

Yeah, that's the reboot/sequel Alone in the Dark from 2008. It was clearly meant to reboot the series, but it apparently has full continuity with the other games. It's weird.

And all of the games in my list are totally worth playing. At the very least, you should play Majora's Mask.

If it makes you feel any better, the only game I've beaten in your list is Super Mario Bros. 3, and I've only played Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario World.

Gonna confess, I reached a point in Alone in the Dark 2008 where I just stopped. I couldn't take it anymore. I wanted to enjoy the game, but it just felt like the development team didn't have enough time to refine their ideas, partly because they couldn't accept that some ideas should have been cut.

The game might have been a lot better if they had a simple melee-combat button. The right joystick thing was alright, though sort of ahead of its time. Might have worked better on the Wii, but on 360, f*ck it.

It definitely takes some getting used to, but once I realized the amount of control that it gives you in combat and other situations, I actually grew to like it a lot. There's a lot of flexibility in the things the game's combat model and physics engine allow you to do. It's the interactions between the various systems that make it interesting, which is why I loved the much-derided open-world section in Central Park the best.

But yes, the game is one that's more about ideas than polish. It doesn't help that the controls are really wonky when compared with the standard third-person shooter controls used by pretty much every third-person game this generation.

trueheart78 wrote:
Slowly making a list of games that have hit the "I really need to replay that..." mark. Then I looked and realized that it's actually only 3 titles: Prince of Persia 2008 (very soon), Dragon Age 2 (soon), Red Dead Redemption (in about 6 months)

Guess it really helped replaying the Mass Effects this past summer, otherwise I'd have added those as well.

Oh, man. My list of replayables is probably big enough to throw a wrench into my pile's gears something fierce!

Off the top of my head:

FF VII (It's a ritual for me)
FFVI (same as above)
FF VIII (see the pattern?)
Final Fantasy XII
Wind Waker
Majora's Mask
OoT
Chrono Cross
Alundra
Vagrant Story
Mega Man Legends 1 & 2
Baldur's Gate series
Planescape: Torment
Icewind Dale series
Castlevania SotN, HoD, AoS
Astro Boy Omega Factor
Gunstar Heroes
Seiken Densetsu 3
Phantasy Star 1- 4
Fallout 3
Mass Effect 1 & 2

Entirely too many!

mrtomaytohead wrote:
That's an incomplete list as it does not contain A Link to the Past and a number of 8-bit titles.

I will get around to those someday, but I've been jonesin' to replay the 3 I've listed.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
It definitely takes some getting used to, but once I realized the amount of control that it gives you in combat and other situations, I actually grew to like it a lot. There's a lot of flexibility in the things the game's combat model and physics engine allow you to do. It's the interactions between the various systems that make it interesting, which is why I loved the much-derided open-world section in Central Park the best.

But yes, the game is one that's more about ideas than polish. It doesn't help that the controls are really wonky when compared with the standard third-person shooter controls used by pretty much every third-person game this generation.

The game honestly was too early for what it wanted to do, or needed to be revised into a Wii exclusive that didn't look like someone smeared sh*t on a mural (graphically speaking). It reminds me of Too Human, where people bitched because they couldn't just play it like any other game, even though what it was trying was awesome (and I still feel like Too Human was a success, as much as Assassin's Creed was for what it was trying to accomplish at least).

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Yeah, that's the reboot/sequel Alone in the Dark from 2008. It was clearly meant to reboot the series, but it apparently has full continuity with the other games. It's weird.

And all of the games in my list are totally worth playing. At the very least, you should play Majora's Mask.

If it makes you feel any better, the only game I've beaten in your list is Super Mario Bros. 3, and I've only played Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario World.

And Majora's Mask is the least likely one I'll ever play as it's the one game not in the house, and I'm wary of ANY N64 game.

Well I honestly don't expect most people to have played any of the games outside of Mario, Zelda, Metroid, and Mega Man on my list, and don't expect anyone at all to have played Metal Combat as it's a Super Scope game. See the left hand mech in my banner on Backloggery for a glimpse of the main character's starting mech. Jet Force Gemini is the one game I hold no hope will ever be remade, but believe stands to see the biggest improvement if properly done as it was a Third Person Shooter, that implemented cover and such, and played out across multiple planets and 3 separate characters that met up mid-way through the game. The music was really epic sounding too. It's biggest shortcoming is the controls that are seriously dated and clunky by todays standards, in a similar manner to Goldeneye. The graphics are a colorful, blurry mess, too.

Replays? I used to replay Super Metroid every 18 months or so. And Super Mario World every 2 years or so. Tried SM on my Android a while back but I couldn't keep at it on the small screen. Seems like I should just get Mario 3D Land if I want a fix though. Reviews are great.

But 3DS isn't on my list of things I'm allowed to buy.

Guess I'll check out this backloggery thing you guys keep talking about. Maybe I can enter things once and be done with it for years. My old spreadsheet of everything hasn't been updated since Christmas probably. And the google doc we have for this thread I haven't touched in a couple months either.

Tomayto, River City Ransom is classic; probably the game I spent more time with than any other on the NES. Conker's Bad Fur Day is....well, kind of hard to pigeonhole. At times it's hilarious (the Great and Mighty Poo's operatic baritone is something I will truly never forget), at times it's just crass, and the gameplay can be hit-or-miss as well. It's definitely a game of peaks and valleys.

Created my backloggery account. Unfortunately, about a year 1/2 back I was unemployed and decided to sell off a bunch of games I never finished. This reflects my favs and my Steam collection.

http://backloggery.com/Z_Daddy

PS - I'm having a bit of a problem figuring out Backloggery. How do I add people to my multitab? Also, is there a list of backgrounds and avatars I can access? Some of you have some very cool page backgrounds.

jdzappa wrote:
I'm having a bit of a problem figuring out Backloggery. How do I add people to my multitab?

Go to their page. Underneath their avatar on the right-hand side, there's a tiny little plus icon labeled "Add to my multitap."

Also, is there a list of backgrounds and avatars I can access? Some of you have some very cool page backgrounds.

Nope. You have to create your own and link the page to it in the page editor.

And a question of my own about Backloggery: when did they add the option to mark a game as Unplayed instead of just Unfinished?

ClockworkHouse wrote:
And a question of my own about Backloggery: when did they add the option to mark a game as Unplayed instead of just Unfinished?

Are you talking about the NULL option? Because I don't see an "Unplayed" option. Maybe you're just special clocky?

Nope. Go to the page for a game that's currently marked as "Unfinished". Right underneath the unfinished/beaten/complete radio buttons there's a checkbox labeled "Unplayed." I swear that wasn't there yesterday.

Ah, I see. If you set any game as Unfinished, the Unplayed option appears. Cool... I think...

Tomayto, you should check out the new Kirby Wii game. There's a mini-game which is a near homage to Metal Combat/Falcon's Revenge/Yoshi's Safari

You guys are making me want to replay all my old games. Not fair!

Actually, I think I'm going to try and channel some of the nostalgia fuel toward clearing the Mega Man Anniversary Collections I picked up at PAX East last year. Also, Chrono Trigger and Front Mission DS since I played the SNES versions and now that I'm playing FFV Advance, I'm itching for more 16-bit Square nostalgia. Might get a copy of Crisis Core and play that as well next year.

But I think my main priorities are finally tackling Half-Life and BioShock, along with finishing a bunch of games I started over the past few years and never finished because I distracted by shinies. I feel a need to clear the table, although I know I have a bunch of holdovers from 2011 and 2010 I need to get through as well

Still need to assemble a list for next year (you guys are giving great ideas for things to focus on), and I managed to knock a good amount of this year's list off, but I'm still buying more games than I'm clearing. Bah.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Nope. Go to the page for a game that's currently marked as "Unfinished". Right underneath the unfinished/beaten/complete radio buttons there's a checkbox labeled "Unplayed." I swear that wasn't there yesterday.

That's a new feature as of this morning/last night. Look at the changelog for details.

Oh, hey, they included a message specifically for trueheart78:

Backloggery wrote:
If you’re one of those shady types that nulled your unplayed games, don’t forget to use stealth save when you switch them over to Unplayed if you don’t want your Memory Card spammed.

Marking my unplayed games is downright depressing. This is the worst update.

Yeah, realizing that 1/5 of my collection hasn't even been touched? That's a sad panda thing, right there.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Yeah, realizing that 1/5 of my collection hasn't even been touched? That's a sad panda thing, right there.

Fix it(?) with a bean dive!

Go from 60% completion to 32% in one VERY depressing 2 week period.

On the plus side, I don't need to worry about that unplayed radio button (or do I?).

m0nk3yboy wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
Yeah, realizing that 1/5 of my collection hasn't even been touched? That's a sad panda thing, right there.

Fix it(?) with a bean dive!

Go from 60% completion to 32% in one VERY depressing 2 week period.

On the plus side, I don't need to worry about that unplayed radio button (or do I?).

Quit starting new games, you! There has to be some game that you haven't tried when GTASC comes out so we can all try and play one together:)

m0nk3yboy wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
Yeah, realizing that 1/5 of my collection hasn't even been touched? That's a sad panda thing, right there.

Fix it(?) with a bean dive!

Go from 60% completion to 32% in one VERY depressing 2 week period.

On the plus side, I don't need to worry about that unplayed radio button (or do I?).

I marked my bean dive games as unplayed. I don't consider playing for five or ten minutes to get the first achievement to be an actual attempt to play the game.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
Yeah, realizing that 1/5 of my collection hasn't even been touched? That's a sad panda thing, right there.

Fix it(?) with a bean dive!

Go from 60% completion to 32% in one VERY depressing 2 week period.

On the plus side, I don't need to worry about that unplayed radio button (or do I?).

I marked my bean dive games as unplayed. I don't consider playing for five or ten minutes to get the first achievement to be an actual attempt to play the game.

I like this... I might give the Backlog some love over the next few days, and apply this to it.

shoptroll wrote:
Tomayto, you should check out the new Kirby Wii game. There's a mini-game which is a near homage to Metal Combat/Falcon's Revenge/Yoshi's Safari :)

Well, I've still got a working Super Scope (and accessories) around here, but I'd like to see what this is. As much as I enjoyed Kirby's adventure and I find Kirby's Epic Yarn enjoyable, I'm not compelled to pick up Return to Dream Land on a desire to play Kirby games.