Did your pile become less of a mountain? - 2011 in review

ClockworkHouse wrote:
beeporama wrote:

I will buy things because they are on sale, or limited edition; but I'm in the middle of something else, so I never bother taking off the cellophane.

That's my big problem. I'll buy something because it's on sale, and I've been interested in it. But when I get it, I'm in the middle of something else, so I leave it unwrapped. When I finish what I was playing, either something else has caught my eye, or I'm not really in the mood for the game that I bought and didn't unwrap.

I've slowly learned, thanks in large part to this thread, that I really don't need to buy those games. I've watched so many of the games I bought at Such a Low Price! fall below that price before I had even gotten them out of the shrinkwrap. It's funny to think you got a great deal on something only to find out that, if you'd have waited until you were actually ready to play it, you'd have paid less.

For most of the last few years, my problem wasn't buying on sale; it was always wanting the new shiny, although that sometimes led to sale buying. I did usually play at least a few hours of whatever new game I bought or borrowed / rented, but a lot of the time they would get discarded when something else caught my eye.

The buying on sale problem is what led to most of my current backlog though. A combination of clearing most of my console backlog, and building a new gaming PC meant that when the Steam summer sale hit, I felt like I could splurge a bit. Which I did. On like 45 games. Most of which I've barely touched, if at all. What I should have done is pick out just a few games that I really wanted to play, but absurdly low prices -- and Goodjer love -- were too tempting.

I've been good since then at least.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

The only games that still get me are ones that I think are rare or are going to be rare. To be fair, though, that paid off for me with Devil Survivor Overclocked, which is now $70 new or $50 used. Although, also to be fair, I'm actually playing that one.

If you are actually playing it, then I would be concerned about it at all.

I've found in the case of Steam sales, if you're getting 75%+ off the current price, it's going to be a good deal, even if you wait several months or years to play it.

The real trap I fall into is impulse buying new games for 25-50% off. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Madden 2012, Portal 2, LA Noire, inFamous 2, and Mortal Kombat are all examples of games that have come out in the past six months and can easily be bought brand new for $40 or less today.

beeporama wrote:

I do have a problem, I've come to realize. I will buy things because they are on sale, or limited edition; but I'm in the middle of something else, so I never bother taking off the cellophane. That's why I'm trying to get rid of some of these games and stop buying so many new ones, even if they are on sale or whatever! ClockworkHouse, you are right: if I haven't played it 6 months after purchase, chances are pretty low that I ever will.

Even though I know I won't get to a new game for quite a while, I still like to open the shrink wrap as soon as the game is in my hands. Then I look through the manual a bit, and if there's a download code I'll redeem that.

I've developed a ridiculous pile over the past couple years. I had a big pile at the end of the first Xbox generation, but I worked my way through it while waiting for the 360 to become more readily available after launch. At this point, though, I have way more than, say, a 6-month backlog, particularly because of downloadable games. Those don't sit on the shelf reminding me that they're there.

philucifer wrote:

Even though I know I won't get to a new game for quite a while, I still like to open the shrink wrap as soon as the game is in my hands. Then I look through the manual a bit, and if there's a download code I'll redeem that.

I'm like that too. I typically get games delivered to work, and I still open the box, rip off the shrink wrap, slice open the seal and look at the manual, even though they keep getting thinner. It's fun, and doesn't take much time out of the work day. The last game I did this with though was Gears of War 3 and it felt like a total waste of time. That "manual" is literally a single sheet of glossy paper folded in half. What the hell is that?

philucifer wrote:

I've developed a ridiculous pile over the past couple years. I had a big pile at the end of the first Xbox generation, but I worked my way through it while waiting for the 360 to become more readily available after launch. At this point, though, I have way more than, say, a 6-month backlog, particularly because of downloadable games. Those don't sit on the shelf reminding me that they're there.

Even the ones sitting on my shelf don't remind me that they're there anymore. They are on the same shelf with the rest of my console games (though at the end), so it just looks like a long line games. I may need to find a better place for them, so they are more in my face.

Garden Ninja wrote:

The last game I did this with though was Gears of War 3 and it felt like a total waste of time. That "manual" is literally a single sheet of glossy paper folded in half. What the hell is that?

That's not even a brochure. If it was, it would have been folded twice. It's a greetings card. Your game came with and instruction greetings card.

Syberia marked off, unexpectedly long review in the end of year pile thread.

Regarding an earlier discussion - A few months ago I took the shrinkwrap off of Bioshock after nearly 3 year on the shelf. It was pretty good!

Shrinkwrap is the crinkly glimmer of long lost treasures that await my rediscovery...

m0nk3yboy wrote:

Shrinkwrap is the crinkly glimmer of long lost treasures that await my rediscovery...

+1

Wrapped up Deus Ex:HR today - quite enjoyed it

I apologize for the long hiatus. I've been working to get back on the path of limited pile additions and slow but steady pile clearing. I completed Deus Ex: Human Revolution on PC (it was great, I really enjoyed it, though the ending was a little meh) and just finished Batman: Arkham Asylum on 360, which I LOVED. Unfortunately, I loved it so much I gave in and pre-ordered Arkham City. However, since the Arkham Asylum experience is so fresh in my mind, I want to tear into Arkham City right away. It also seems like a very manageable game in terms of length.

I think the problem I have is that I have too many epic-length games in my pile. (Dragon Age 2, The Witcher 1 +2, Fallout: New Vegas). I am about to add another in Skyrim soon. (I've read too much about this game and I really want to play it this Fall and not wait) I think after that I need to cool it on buying epic-length games right when they come out. I think if I wait on these longer games until they are on Steam sales or cheaper on 360 then I will hopefully be able to burrow through this very dense part of the pile.

Slyght wrote:

I've found in the case of Steam sales, if you're getting 75%+ off the current price, it's going to be a good deal, even if you wait several months or years to play it.

I agree strongly with this point, waiting for sales of that size usually reap rewards (Metro 2033, at the price of a beer ($5), falls into that category).

I've already identified the games that I want and have pre-ordered (Skyrim and Assassin's Creed: Revelations) and I'm hoping to stick to them, possibly seeing how the pricing for Gears 3 and RAGE goes. I am especially interested in Gears 3 because of Horde mode, however, I still have the back end of Gears 1 and all of Gears 2 to finish first...

It looks like finances have determined that I'll be getting either Super Mario 3D Land or Skyward Sword next month rather than both. Which one do I choose?

The good news is that Dark Souls had the good grace to remove itself from The List, so that's one less game to worry about.

Assuming that I finish Dawn of Sorrows before the end of the month, I'll be on track for my goal of finishing six pile games before the end of the year. I'm not looking forward to running into a brick wall where all I have left to play are epic-length RPGs...

ClockworkHouse wrote:

finances

I hear that! I'm thinking I'm going to add a dollar amount to my pile allowance next year, rather than listing specific titles. I think I failed at that part of this (I'll know more at the years end breakdown).

I've come to realise I'm a collector, as well as a player. As mentioned back in the thread, my 'wine cellar' approach to games has meant that I have quite the compulsion when it comes to these sorts of things. Finding cheap UK importers meant I got into the mind set of "I'm buying X, but with the savings I'm making I should pick up Y too. There it is, oooooh, shiny things"... Not very clever.

I'm still tossing up the final yearly budget, but this will work (for me at least) in the following ways.
1) I enjoy the thrill of the chase when it comes to hunting for bargains so I can still do that
2) I'll think twice about blowing BIG chunks on day one purchases (wait and get it cheaper or GOTY)
3) For some reason, as soon as I lock in an option, I want something else, this should eliminate that too

I realise I will be buried with games unplayed, but that's cool...

m0nk3yboy wrote:

I've come to realise I'm a collector, as well as a player.

The nice thing is, as long as it's something that can work with a 800ms ping, we can always depend on you to help us clear up multiplayer achievements.

Made it about 80% into Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light. Not a bad game, but I'm not sure I'm having fun. Twice I've encountered bugs that have required me to restart the entire level, and that's just not something I'm happy with. If I didn't have just a couple levels left, I'd consider abandoning it.

trueheart78 wrote:

My backlog is comprised of games I *want* to finish. If you don't want to finish it or don't enjoy it, jettison it (at least from your list). Life is too short to play games that you don't enjoy.

I agree. I recently took a look at my pile and removed all the games I didn't have a genuine interest in playing. That reduced my existing pile from 29 to 16 games! And of those 16, I'm hoping to beat 10 (!) for the End of the Year Pile Extravaganza. Here's my list:

October:
Far Cry 2 (PC)
Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War (PC)
Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney (DS)
Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box (DS)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (DS)

November:
The Witcher 2: Assassin of Kings (PC)
Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth (DS)
The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (DS)

December:
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (PC)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (DS)

If I can actually get through all of this, I'll be in a really good place going into 2012.

Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is done! Impressions in the finished games thread. That's two out of the six games I'm hoping to finish before year's end.

I actually almost traded in Ghost Recon: Shadow Wars on Saturday. I wandered away from it a couple months back because I was frustrated that the game forced me to take every character on every mission and keep every one of them alive. I decided to give the game one last play before I handed it over to GameStop, and lo and behold, the very next mission had me choosing a squad from my larger pool of characters. It's not a perfect solution to my gripe, but it was enough to get me interested again and keep the cartridge in my 3DS for a little bit longer.

Wrapped up Tomb Raider and the Guardian of Light.

I'm starting to think ahead to 2012's purchases and make my plans. I want to get to the bottom of the pile, but I know that I'll get an itch to buy new games. So I've decided to run with a joke I made on TrueAchievements and make it a real thing: 2012 will be the Year of Perverted Japanese Games. In addition to buying Catherine, which I'd already planned to do, I'm going to 100% Bayonetta and play one of the Record of Agarest War games and one of the DeathSmiles games. Any other suggestions?

Have you played all the DoA stuff?

Google turns up something for the Wii called Enjoy Your Massage! Looks promising.

I have Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 (it's my wife's game, actually) and have put thirty or so hours into it. I haven't played any of the actual DoA fighting games, however.

I'm gonna throw the Personas out there, too. They toe that line pretty well at certain points; especially since we're talking mostly about under-age people (at least in the US). Of course, you're already playing those.

By the way, I opened my PS2's disc drive to pop in DDS the other day and was greeted by the cheery sight of my P4 disc. So if/when you ever finish 3 remind me to get that to you.

Amazon suggests Otomedius Excellent, another SHMUP.

Minarchist wrote:

By the way, I opened my PS2's disc drive to pop in DDS the other day and was greeted by the cheery sight of my P4 disc. So if/when you ever finish 3 remind me to get that to you.

I didn't even think to look in the case when I got it. I'll let you know when I'm ready for it.

Youtube pointed me towards this for the 3DS (significant Japanese boob-jiggling ensues). I like the comment: "And Sony says the 3DS is for kids!"

EDIT: The article in which I found that game is the motherlode.

I grabbed Aliens: Infestation for the DS to tide me over until Super Mario 3D Land. It's promising so far.

Was it ever officially decided to start a new thread with the new year? I hope so, because I'm looking forward to it.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Was it ever officially decided to start a new thread with the new year? I hope so, because I'm looking forward to it.

I believe so, yes.

Indeed it is...

I figured this one would wind down over the next few months as Hemidal has his end of year pile thread going (must add that link).

We can use this one to lament, reflect, and discuss what we want to do in the new year.

For starters:

Google Doc, did it work, can we make it better?

Backloggery, now an option we didn't have this time last year. Do we want to use that and feed off each others multitap and still meet in a GWJ thread for pile clearance support?

Fine tuning our commitment and addendum into a Pile Charter?

m0nk3yboy wrote:

Backloggery, now an option we didn't have this time last year. Do we want to use that and feed off each others multitap and still meet in a GWJ thread for pile clearance support?

I like this idea a lot.

m0nk3yboy wrote:

Google Doc, did it work, can we make it better?

It worked well enough, but it's superceded by:

Backloggery, now an option we didn't have this time last year. Do we want to use that and feed off each others multitap and still meet in a GWJ thread for pile clearance support?

Backloggery has a lot of features built into it that make the Google doc unnecessary. It's a pain to get your whole pile inputted, sure, but once you're over that initial hump, it's a nice website. Personally, I've really enjoyed seeing my stats for games unfinished vs. beaten vs. completed, and I like watching the multitap feed to see what people are playing. (Aus_Tbird is an animal!)

Fine tuning our commitment and addendum into a Pile Charter?

It definitly needs to be rewritten into something more streamlined. While everyone's approach will be different, the salient points seem to be:

  • Committing to a goal of clearing a portion of the pile, be that X number of games over the course of the year, X number of games per month, or X% off the unfinished pile.
  • Making a commitment to not add a bunch of new games to the pile, either by not buying more than a certain number of games per week/month/year, only spending a certain amount of money on games per week/month/year, or not buying games until certain completion milestones have been met.
  • Making a list of what you're really excited about in the coming year that are pre-forgiven for being added to the pile of shame.
m0nk3yboy wrote:

Google Doc, did it work, can we make it better?

It worked well enough, but it's superceded by:

Backloggery, now an option we didn't have this time last year. Do we want to use that and feed off each others multitap and still meet in a GWJ thread for pile clearance support?

Backloggery has a lot of features built into it that make the Google doc unnecessary. It's a pain to get your whole pile inputted, sure, but once you're over that initial hump, it's a nice website. Personally, I've really enjoyed seeing my stats for games unfinished vs. beaten vs. completed, and I like watching the multitap feed to see what people are playing. (Aus_Tbird is an animal!)

Fine tuning our commitment and addendum into a Pile Charter?

It definitly needs to be rewritten into something more streamlined. While everyone's approach will be different, the salient points seem to be:

  • Committing to a goal of clearing a portion of the pile, be that X number of games over the course of the year, X number of games per month, or X% off the unfinished pile.
  • Making a commitment to not add a bunch of new games to the pile, either by not buying more than a certain number of games per week/month/year, only spending a certain amount of money on games per week/month/year, or not buying games until certain completion milestones have been met.
  • Making a list of what you're really excited about in the coming year that are pre-forgiven for being added to the pile of shame.