Baby. Now in Stereo.

There will indeed be lots of poop. Twice as much as you were expecting. But that said, Maq's right; you'll do fine. The fact that you're worried and maybe even a bit scared is a *good* thing; it shows that you care enough about Mrs Penguin and the Penglets that you want the best for them.

So, keep that in mind. Do what needs doing. Be there for them all(Mrs Pen especially). Get used to gaming late at night when they're not sleeping; time with them like that is what they want most I've found. But trust your instincts. They'll get you along just fine.

Lent wrote:

Please please please....don't do "cutesy" twin things like dressing them alike, giving them "matching" names, and other such nonsense. Unless you're into that sort of thing, in which case go ahead!

Seriously though, when the time comes you'll know the right thing to do, whatever the situation. And if not, I'm sure your wife will tell you.

Lent

No no. Oh no no no. Don't worry. That was one of the first things we talked about after we got over the shock. Neither one of us is into that kind of thing.

We do, however, live 1 town North of Twinsburg so... this is Twins Day.

Congrats man, and good luck. Taking care of one right now is about to kill us (she doesn't like to sleep, ever).

So far as telling the two apart, a lot of times doctors will tattoo a small marker (like one dot on one, two dots on the other) on their bottoms to be able to differentiate the two.

Many congratulations! Due to my severe allergy to children, unlike Cheeto, I probably won't be around to babysit...

Your wife is small, and small women and twins pregnancies can be trying. The doctor may end up putting her on bed rest for the last several weeks, depending on how well she handles it.

My aunt and uncle had twins, and shortly afterward, my uncle warned me to never have children. I'm not sure why, but, there you go.

/helpful

Yeah, I got nothing. But you've got some truly memorable times ahead.

Lent wrote:

Please please please....don't do "cutesy" twin things like dressing them alike, giving them "matching" names, and other such nonsense.

I think you should call them "Subject" and "Control".

Congrats, man! If you've got one of each gender, you could always go with the classic Luke and Leia

Tanglebones wrote:

Congrats, man! If you've got one of each gender, you could always go with the classic Luke and Leia :)

The Jaime and Cersei jokes have already started among my friends. My friends, I shall punch them.

Congrats oily family! May your twins be easy to hold onto.

I'm sure you'll do fine even with double the number of originally expected babies, just remember to breath.

Hi Oily! Congrats!

My Brother just had twin boys 9 weeks ago. Sleep/Gaming time are both at a premium.

A mouse similar to this will help wonders. Use the GWJ amazon linky thing on the side.

http://www.amazon.com/Razer-Laser-Ga...

It allows one handed MMO playing if you need to say "rock" the baby to sleep again while the "other parental unit" remains
oblivious to the gaming that is happening.

Congrats! I've got a little dude that's 3 months this week and it's been great. Thankfully he sleeps good, but doesn't like to be on his belly so my gaming is only when he's asleep and not in my arms, which for me has been a surprisingly good amount of time.

oilypenguin wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:

Congrats, man! If you've got one of each gender, you could always go with the classic Luke and Leia :)

The Jaime and Cersei jokes have already started among my friends. My friends, I shall punch them.

Ghanima and Leto?

Shadow and Colossus?

Congrats Oily, btw.

kilanash wrote:

Shadow and Colossus?

Congrats Oily, btw.

Every home movie would be a buddy cop movie.

Potty training-
Shadow: I'm getting too old for this sh*t.

Congratulations! You should PM Missy/DocBadwrench, they've gone through this recently.

Just be glad there are ultrasounds these days. My younger brothers are (fraternal) twins, and Mom didn't know until she delivered.

Hooray for babies! I wonder if you can get a baby bjorn for both your stomach and back.

This is... scary, frankly. I was still coming to grips with one but two? At once?

First: congrats! You win the genetic lottery. At least it wasn't triplets.

Second: I suspect that two babies are probably a lot harder than one until they're sleeping through the night, but once you get over that hump, it's probably not that much more time consuming. If you're doing something for one baby, you can just do it again for the second with no extra prep or cleanup time, so it's probably nowhere near twice as much work.

I think you're probably going to want to look into reusable stuff as much as you can. Washable cloth diapers, for instance, are probably going to save you a lot of money when you're dealing with two babies at once. With the costs doubling up like that, you probably want to avoid anything disposable.

Congratulations! Congratulations!

Allow me to repeat the same advice I give to all new parents: start training your body for less sleep now. If you are currently getting 8 hours every night, slowly reduce that to 4 hours a night over the next 6 months. This way you'll find exactly how much you need to stay sane and productive before the babies are screaming at 2am.

Also, there is no greater feeling than the pure and unadulterated joy that comes from holding your sleeping baby on your chest. My wife and I will literally fight over holding our two month old in the evenings; you guys are lucky that you'll have a baby for each of you! Take every opprotunity to enjoy that when the time comes.

you guys are lucky that you'll have a baby for each of you!

Hah, hadn't thought about that -- twins means enough babies for everyone! Grandma and Grandpa can each have one at the same time.

Congrats and good luck to you and your wife, and of course to Max Ides and Big Ben (just throwing that out there, try it out and see how it works).

I thought the main point of the first ultrasound is to confirm how many fetuses there are. How is it that twins wasn't detected then?

EDIT: Nevermind, that doesn't make sense. They weren't twins.

Gravey wrote:

Congrats and good luck to you and your wife, and of course to Max Ides and Big Ben (just throwing that out there, try it out and see how it works).

I thought the main point of the first ultrasound is to confirm how many fetuses there are. How is it that twins wasn't detected then?

I dunno. A Wizard did it. I'm just glad we caught it so I still have (hopefully) 6 months to prepare. Twins tend to come early, especially if they're white boys, apparently. This is according to my wife's OB.

oilypenguin wrote:
Gravey wrote:

Congrats and good luck to you and your wife, and of course to Max Ides and Big Ben (just throwing that out there, try it out and see how it works).

I thought the main point of the first ultrasound is to confirm how many fetuses there are. How is it that twins wasn't detected then?

I dunno. A Wizard did it. I'm just glad we caught it so I still have (hopefully) 6 months to prepare. Twins tend to come early, especially if they're white boys, apparently. This is according to my wife's OB.

You might want to get them started on endurance training at an early age, then..

/giggle

How does your wife feel about getting HUGE? I made fun of Sara daily on how huge she was. She hated me. It was fun.

oilypenguin wrote:
Gravey wrote:

Congrats and good luck to you and your wife, and of course to Max Ides and Big Ben (just throwing that out there, try it out and see how it works).

I thought the main point of the first ultrasound is to confirm how many fetuses there are. How is it that twins wasn't detected then?

I dunno. A Wizard did it. I'm just glad we caught it so I still have (hopefully) 6 months to prepare. Twins tend to come early, especially if they're white boys, apparently. This is according to my wife's OB.

Well, i guess you could hope they are not the opposite so she doesn't get HUGE. What are the chances?!

Cheeto1016 wrote:

/giggle

How does your wife feel about getting HUGE? I made fun of Sara daily on how huge she was. She hated me. It was fun.

Cheets. Is that seriously the question you're asking me. How do you think she feels about it?

Tanglebones wrote:
oilypenguin wrote:
Tanglebones wrote:

Congrats, man! If you've got one of each gender, you could always go with the classic Luke and Leia :)

Ghanima and Leto?

Choosing those names would give new meaning to "the Golden Path". /rimshot

Congrats Oily! And good luck to you and the missus!

Congratulations! I suggest checking out some of the other threads on parenting and twins for advice. You can never really be prepared for having a kid, so having two doesn't change that. Just do your best to keep them on the same schedule, sleep whenever you can, and don't sweat it. Good luck

Congrats(!)(!) x2
\___/

I have 4 and I'd take more if I could afford them.
My 3 pieces of advice:
1) Think small. Big strollers, diaper bags, or whatever just become more and more annoying over time. By my last potato, the glove box served as a portable diaper bag and first aid kit. Buy 1/3 of what you think you need, because what you *really* need will make itself evident quickly, then buy that. Include the all powerful bouncy seats in your 1/3!
2) Any type of fire and babies don't mix that well. They do however make hilarious (assuming everything turns out somewhat okay) stories for kids to share something about yourself day at school!
3) Love them. Each are so different, and they grow so very fast. The statement that there is no time like the present has yielded me the most beautiful rewards when applied to my children. Especially in retrospect...

Malor wrote:

If you're doing something for one baby, you can just do it again for the second with no extra prep or cleanup time, so it's probably nowhere near twice as much work.

D'awww.... That's so cute!

Oh, another piece of advice: you can never have too many little cloths. Seriously. My wife and I received 92 tiny cloths before our first was born and we laughed at how absurd the number was.

We ended up buying more.

Oily,

You're right to be scared, and right to be happy all at the same time. It's all good. Bad news - it doesn't go away. The stakes just get higher and higher. You get used to it.

None of us know what the heck we're doing. Most parents have never actually raised a child of their own before they had their current one (I'm sure with all these two-generation families out there it's not 100% but it's pretty close). Even the Cleavers were complete amateurs at this whole gig, and so was Benjamin Spock and Dr. Phil.

You just have to remind yourself that people have been surviving childhoods since the dawn of time. You work hard, you try hard, you do your very best. And in the end they grow up because of you (or in the case of teenagers, in spite of you).

The good news is, they do grow up. And even if you feel you aren't good enough and don't deserve it, they are often generous enough to love you anyways. Yes, there were plenty of those "Someday we'll all look back on this, laugh nervously, and change the subject" sort of moments. Even so, I wouldn't trade any of it.

One last bit of advice, in case you guys are real newbies who didn't even have brothers and sisters to help with. If you think poopy diapers are bad, wait until you have to deal with the mess that comes with broken hearts. If could figure out how to make a wipe for that, I would be a trillionaire.

It was a while ago for me (my girls turn 21 in February), but here's a few tips:

-- Telling them apart is not that hard. I was lucky in that one of the girls had a tiny birthmark on her temple. She still has it, thank goodness. But even without that, you'll be fine. Choose a color scheme for each kid and buy stuff accordingly. Then while you're still in the hospital and you KNOW who is Twin A and Twin B thanks to the bracelets, start using it. Stick with it until they're old enough to start having an opinion about what they wear in the morning. By then you'll have other indicators to work with.
-- Not being able to tell them apart in a moment of stress isn't the end of the world, either. Practice the use of "young man" and/or "young lady." It's not like the one who's doing something they shouldn't doesn't know. You'd be surprised how often the right kid stops gnawing on the cat when you say an indefinite pronoun in the proper tone.
-- You need four times as much support as you think you do, not twice. Get hooked in immediately with a twin group; your OB should be able to help you. Family, friends, paid help, whatever. Get it all!
-- You need half as much crap as you think you do. There's a whole industry out there peddling junk you will use twice if at all and never use again. Invest the money you would have spent on matching bottle heaters on diapers and coffee. You and the children will be happier.
-- You two should work out a system for how she wants things done when she can't do them herself. I know you're a modern man and you help out, but there's certain touches that she does when she does the chores that I bet you don't. There's a lot of stand up comedy out there about stuff like the tracks the vacuum leaves behind, but it's not just funny. I know some of this stuff doesn't make sense. If it helps, think of it as a well-mowed baseball diamond. Her knowing that things are being done just the way she would have does help. She'll already be feeling guilty that she's not doing all she used to. You may know some of them already, but find out what they are and do them. This does not stop once they're born - keep this going for a while.
-- Talk to her. She's going to have her own reactions to the intrusiveness and limitations of being pregnant, with first-time jitters, plus all the attendant stress of it being two at once. Find out how she feels and it will give you tips as to things you can do that will help.

Bed rest is a reality with twins. Your body reaches the "everybody out of the pool" size when they're only half-way done. I'm going to spoiler the rest of this. Read when/if you need it.

Spoiler:

I ended up having to be in the hospital on some very strong medication for 12 weeks and lost a semester of college. I was NOT amused. Last year I helped a gal from church go through it, and things haven't improved nearly as much as I had hoped it would over the intervening years.

It all depends on the situation. Hopefully it's just some medication and staying off her feet. But if she ends up on monitoring, it tattles on you even if you cry or throw pillows at an offending husband who said something tactless. She may may not even be allowed to get up and use the restroom by herself. The monitor readings determine if you get to take a shower or not. If she's on medication, the side effects can be awful - I was on two drugs and while they kept the muscles in my body from getting organized enough to have the babies it also affected my vision to the point I couldn't read for that last month. It's one of the most humiliating and infuriating things you can imagine and all you can do is lay there on your left side and take it. This is on top of the standard "I'm huge and ugly" stage that comes with every pregnancy. There are a bunch of groups online dedicated to helping women cope with this stuff now. Stork.net seems good. Find one and get hooked in with them as soon as you can.

And it might not work. Sometimes it's just time and there's no amount of wearing your lucky socks and turning your hat backwards that's going to stop it. My girls ended up 5 weeks early even with all of that and I felt awful and it wasn't even that bad. They came home after 16 days, and only had to take a medication to prevent sleep apnea for six months. That wasn't much fun -- babies don't sleep much as it is, having them on medication that makes certain they don't sleep too deeply is, uh, memorable. But three days after they stopped taking it I suddenly had perfectly normal little girls and they haven't looked back (or stopped running me ragged ) since.