NFL 2011 Week 12

Gumbie wrote:

Del Rio out in Jacksonville.

And the team is being sold.

Over/under on how soon they move?

San Antonio or L.A.?

thejustinbot wrote:
Gumbie wrote:

Del Rio out in Jacksonville.

And the team is being sold.

Any guesses where the team will go to?

LA?

L.A. seems far more logical; there's already two teams in the Eastern part of Texas, and Houston's what, 200 miles away? Regionally, it's going to be hard to carve out a chunk of fan-dom in San Antonio, I'd think. Los Angeles is obviously a much bigger market. Then again, the Vikings and maybe Chargers will beat them there first.

I'm going to say Portland. For the sole reason that it will give me something to fantasize about today.

Kinda out there but is there a Canadian town that could support a franchise?

I'm sure the NFL would love to expand that market.

Secret Asian Man wrote:

Kinda out there but is there a Canadian town that could support a franchise?

I'm sure the NFL would love to expand that market.

The Bills already play a game in Toronto each year; they're the logical choice. I suspect they'll flee Buffalo about three seconds after Ralph Wilson dies.

bighoppa wrote:

Over/under on how soon they move?

San Antonio or L.A.?

SAN ANTONIO PLEASE.

My dream would finally come true.

Gene Smith took up the Jags on that contract extension.

Good. He needs to be the architect of this franchise. The day the Jaguars let him go is the day I despair.

New thread lest this one gets overwhelmed with Los Angeles Jaguars talk.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

L.A. seems far more logical; there's already two teams in the Eastern part of Texas, and Houston's what, 200 miles away?

All those teams on the East Coast are clustered just as close. And this is football obsessed country down here.

I don't see the presence of a team in Houston making any real impact on San Antonio. I don't see Houston pulling very many people from here.

*Legion* wrote:

Gene Smith took up the Jags on that contract extension.

Good. He needs to be the architect of this franchise. The day the Jaguars let him go is the day I despair.

I rush to this thread to see what Legion was saying and this is all I get? Geezee, let's get some crying or something. Or at least a picture of legion wearing the jersey of his new favorite team.

Spoiler:

cue legion pic in raiders jersey

karmajay wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Gene Smith took up the Jags on that contract extension.

Good. He needs to be the architect of this franchise. The day the Jaguars let him go is the day I despair.

I rush to this thread to see what Legion was saying and this is all I get? Geezee, let's get some crying or something. Or at least a picture of legion wearing the jersey of his new favorite team.

Spoiler:

cue legion pic in raiders jersey

Done!

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karmajay wrote:

I rush to this thread to see what Legion was saying and this is all I get? Geezee, let's get some crying or something.

I was just posting on Reddit's Jaguars community yesterday about how I was ready for JDR to be let go. The day after I say that, it happens.

As for the team being sold and possibly moving, well, I love the Jaguars but I don't give two sh*ts about Jacksonville. Any move would likely bring them closer to me (unless they go to London).

San Antonio or Los Angeles would be awesome. San Antonio would be close to me now, and if my wife and I do eventually retire to Pismo Beach, LA's just down the 101.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

L.A. seems far more logical; there's already two teams in the Eastern part of Texas, and Houston's what, 200 miles away?

All those teams on the East Coast are clustered just as close. And this is football obsessed country down here.

I don't see the presence of a team in Houston making any real impact on San Antonio. I don't see Houston pulling very many people from here.

Is the area between Houston and San Antonio as densely populated as most of the East Coast?

Between San Antonio and Austin (they're only about 80 miles apart) you've got a population of about 4m. Build a nice stadium on the outskirts of SA along the I-35 corridor and you've got a pretty nice setup. We'd have another nice in-state rivalry, and I'm sure Legion would buy any unsold tickets to ensure the sellout.

Based on the below map, you'd think that putting a team in Florida would be a good idea. Oh ... wait ....

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Hmmm, looking at those blue dots on the map, it's hard to decide where the Jags should go; Spokane, Salt Lake, or Boise.

garion333 wrote:

Based on the below map, you'd think that putting a team in Florida would be a good idea. Oh ... wait ....

You don't need 10 million people. You just need 70,000 of the right people every Sunday.

But if you want to talk about population, you have to realize that we're talking about the fastest growing area in the country.

See Forbes' 10 fastest growing cities list.

Austin is #1.
Dallas / Fort Worth is #4.
Houston is #5.
San Antonio is #9.

Yeah, well, Texas is growing because old people are moving there, and it'd be cost-prohibitive to build enough bathrooms in a stadium for all of them.

San Antonio is a pretty decent sports town; they love their Spurs. However, LA seems the more logical choice.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

San Antonio is a pretty decent sports town; they love their Spurs. However, LA seems the more logical choice.

It's still more likely that another team moves before the Jaguars do.

The Jaguars still have a stadium lease, through 2030, that won't be particularly easy to get out of. The Vikings and Chargers both have no stadium commitments.

The Vikings and Chargers are both currently in ancient stadiums. The Jags' stadium opened in 1995 - no longer a spring chicken, but they hardly have grounds to use stadium issues as an argument to move.

In the long term, I see the Jaguars moving. In the near future, they're likely not going anywhere.

But they can go ahead and prove me wrong. I'm fine with either LA or SA.

L.A. has had pro football a few times previously and the teams keep leaving. I was under the impression that it's just not an NFL town. I know business types look at the population and see dollar signs, but what would be different this time?

Would another team moving to L.A. fare better than the Raiders or Rams did?

bighoppa wrote:

L.A. has had pro football a few times previously and the teams keep leaving. I was under the impression that it's just not an NFL town. I know business types look at the population and see dollar signs, but what would be different this time?

Would another team moving to L.A. fare better than the Raiders or Rams did?

It's a myth that the Raiders and Rams left because of a failure of the LA football fans.

Both teams left due to stadium issues. Stadium issues are the root of every NFL team moving cities (in the modern era).

Both the Raiders and Rams left after attempts to get new or renovated stadiums in Los Angeles fell through. Neither team was looking to go anywhere, and only did after all attempts at solving the stadium problem failed. The city (and surrounding cities like Anaheim) could not scratch up the necessary money, and the teams left to cities that could.

Now, there's a whole bunch of private money making the stadium thing happen in Los Angeles. That makes all the difference in the world.