Skyrim for the Unwashed Console Masses

Rykin wrote:

I grabbed like every alchemy ingredient I could while questing and stored them up a bit and then would make hundreds of potions at once. Sell the potion for more alchemy ingredients and then repeat. I guess my real secret here is walking from place to place instead of using fast travel and picking everything I see along the way and visiting the various alchemy shops to unload the potions for more ingredients. Just figure out which potions you can make the most of. Probably something that calls for Mountain Flowers. Did pretty much the same for smithing.

Okay, I've been doing that minus the walking everywhere. But I grab every ingredient I can when looting, then buy up everything from the nearest alchemist, then alchemize. I have my go-to valuable potions so I know what ingredients to really look out for (invisibility, slow, and something that's worth 500+ and needs a giant's toe). I'll just keep at it then.

Demosthenes wrote:
McIrishJihad wrote:

So silly question - is there any decent place early on for me to stash stuff?

I don't want to ruin too much by hitting up a wiki, but I'd love to know where its safe to stash off magic items and other rare stuff so I'm not always playing the "drop this so I can fast travel" game.

Get a horse, you can fast travel while encumbered. Do some of the quests that take you to the Jarl of Whiterun, as this will get you a companion (or you can hire one in almost any tavern) that will carry stuff for you, which gives you a little wiggle room. If you go the Whiterun route for your first companion, you can then buy a place to stash stuff... otherwise most everywhere else can and will reset, losing your stuff.

Most of the guilds will give you a bed and some storage containers too when you join. You can check UESP for the details about that.

Gravey wrote:
Rykin wrote:

I grabbed like every alchemy ingredient I could while questing and stored them up a bit and then would make hundreds of potions at once. Sell the potion for more alchemy ingredients and then repeat. I guess my real secret here is walking from place to place instead of using fast travel and picking everything I see along the way and visiting the various alchemy shops to unload the potions for more ingredients. Just figure out which potions you can make the most of. Probably something that calls for Mountain Flowers. Did pretty much the same for smithing.

Okay, I've been doing that minus the walking everywhere. But I grab every ingredient I can when looting, then buy up everything from the nearest alchemist, the alchemize. I have my go-to valuable potions so I know what ingredients to really look out for (invisibility, slow, and something that's worth 500+ and needs a giant's toe). I'll just keep at it then.

Demosthenes wrote:
McIrishJihad wrote:

So silly question - is there any decent place early on for me to stash stuff?

I don't want to ruin too much by hitting up a wiki, but I'd love to know where its safe to stash off magic items and other rare stuff so I'm not always playing the "drop this so I can fast travel" game.

Get a horse, you can fast travel while encumbered. Do some of the quests that take you to the Jarl of Whiterun, as this will get you a companion (or you can hire one in almost any tavern) that will carry stuff for you, which gives you a little wiggle room. If you go the Whiterun route for your first companion, you can then buy a place to stash stuff... otherwise most everywhere else can and will reset, losing your stuff.

Most of the guilds will give you a bed and some storage containers too when you join. You can check UESP for the details about that.

Heh, whereas my priority was always Breezehome, then worry about guilds.

Cool - thanks guys.

Did the Jarl of Whiterun last night and got Lydia, then started up the questline to join the Companions, so sounds like I've got some options.

On the wiki you can find a few permanent chests.

There are two barrels right outside the smithy at Whiterun which have no ownership flags on them. They were my stash location until I was able to get my house there.

Gravey wrote:

Okay, I've been doing that minus the walking everywhere. But I grab every ingredient I can when looting, then buy up everything from the nearest alchemist, then alchemize. I have my go-to valuable potions so I know what ingredients to really look out for (invisibility, slow, and something that's worth 500+ and needs a giant's toe). I'll just keep at it then.

There is your problem. You are maximizing gold. I am pretty sure you get the same exp for a potion that sells for 5 gold as you do for one that sells for 500. As the saying goes: there is a certain quality to quantity.

Quintin_Stone wrote:

There are two barrels right outside the smithy at Whiterun which have no ownership flags on them. They were my stash location until I was able to get my house there.

Even when I got a house I still used these two as stash locations. I but all my smithing stuff into the one and all my items to sell into the other. There is also a couple of barrels just outside of the general goods store in that first small town you come across that work pretty good as well early on. But really you can use any container you like. I tend to find something near a fast travel point in each area and just outside of any dungeon/caves and use them as a drop off point. But I am also a bit OCD about looting.

Rykin wrote:
Gravey wrote:

Okay, I've been doing that minus the walking everywhere. But I grab every ingredient I can when looting, then buy up everything from the nearest alchemist, then alchemize. I have my go-to valuable potions so I know what ingredients to really look out for (invisibility, slow, and something that's worth 500+ and needs a giant's toe). I'll just keep at it then.

There is your problem. You are maximizing gold. I am pretty sure you get the same exp for a potion that sells for 5 gold as you do for one that sells for 500.

UESP says:

Alchemy experience gains are proportional to the gold cost of the potion being brewed.

So I've been going by that—and of course brewing anything else I can whenever I have the ingredients.

Well ok then. I was just going by what it felt like while playing.

Rykin wrote:

Well ok then. I was just going by what it felt like while playing.

Quite. And it does feel like, no matter what I make, the bar barely goes up. Maybe it's because I haven't bought any perks in Alchemy.

Oops.

Accidentally started A Night To Remember, and got teleported to Markarth, where I then picked up The Forsworn Conspiracy.

Damn my greed!

Spoiler:

Chose to kill the three guards that killed Eltrys, but for whatever reason the town guard went super aggro instead of "pay your fine or go to jail" when I left the temple. So I ran - hope that clears up before I wind up going back to Markarth...

Also, I dropped the $2 and picked up an iPad app that helps you maximize your Alchemy. Totally amazed at how quickly you burn through levels when making potions with 3-4 effects!

McIrishJihad wrote:

Oops.

Accidentally started A Night To Remember, and got teleported to Markarth, where I then picked up The Forsworn Conspiracy.

Damn my greed!

Spoiler:

Chose to kill the three guards that killed Eltrys, but for whatever reason the town guard went super aggro instead of "pay your fine or go to jail" when I left the temple. So I ran - hope that clears up before I wind up going back to Markarth...

Also, I dropped the $2 and picked up an iPad app that helps you maximize your Alchemy. Totally amazed at how quickly you burn through levels when making potions with 3-4 effects!

Link please.

This is the only $2 Alchemy app I saw on iTunes.

Looks like it reviewed well too.

I might pick it up too as I didn't mess with Alchemy too much in all my time with the game.

Only time consuming thing is putting in your current inventory.

Wish it would remind you of high value ingredients (stuff for fortify enchanting and fortify smithing), but nothing stops you from saying you have 0 of those items.

I'm looking to embark on Skyrim this year, so that App and the Dragon Shout App will be right next to me as I play it.

So, after around 4 years playing WOW, and realising to keep up you have to devote your life to it, I have left Azeroth!

And this is the first game I have fired up that meets my needs for a game. And it feels so relaxed after four years of chasing everyone elses tails. I can actually play the game at my pace and not feel I'm missing out or being harrassed to do things I don't really want to do. And it's so nice seeing a herb to collect and not panicking that someone will fly in and steal it while I fight a pig nearby! And I can create my own clothes and weapons which I can then enchant as well as creating my own potions! And all in the comfort of my armchair with just a controller and my 60" TV to view it on.

Anyway, loving the game so far.

Petersmiler wrote:

So, after around 4 years playing WOW, and realising to keep up you have to devote your life to it, I have left Azeroth!

And this is the first game I have fired up that meets my needs for a game. And it feels so relaxed after four years of chasing everyone elses tails. I can actually play the game at my pace and not feel I'm missing out or being harrassed to do things I don't really want to do. And it's so nice seeing a herb to collect and not panicking that someone will fly in and steal it while I fight a pig nearby! And I can create my own clothes and weapons which I can then enchant as well as creating my own potions! And all in the comfort of my armchair with just a controller and my 60" TV to view it on.

Anyway, loving the game so far.

Heh, made the transition with Fallout 3 and Bethesda's games certainly are a nice "step-down" from WoW. I do miss my Rusted Protodrake from that northern raid instance during Wrath of the Lich King. The fact that I can't even remember what it was called feels kind good actually.

You might have to fight two wolves and a bear, but that herb will still be there.

My play-through so far: got to Whiterun, made Thane, the Jarl tells me "yeah, go speak to the Greybeards now". Spend 37 hours wandering the world, doing side quests, gathering materials, kill off another 3 or 4 of the random-spawn dragons, mine a bunch of ore.

Then I say to myself - wow, I should probably go back to the story quests now

McIrishJihad wrote:

My play-through so far: got to Whiterun, made Thane, the Jarl tells me "yeah, go speak to the Greybeards now". Spend 37 hours wandering the world, doing side quests, gathering materials, kill off another 3 or 4 of the random-spawn dragons, mine a bunch of ore.

Then I say to myself - wow, I should probably go back to the story quests now :D

Nah, you're good. Do the graybeard quests to finish unlocking all the voice stuff, but after that, go hike over some hills.

I just found it a little silly basically starting the main quest line at level 27

McIrishJihad wrote:

I just found it a little silly basically starting the main quest line at level 27

But it makes so much more sense! When all the people are muttering about the dragonborn as if you're super important, YOU ARE! Why? Because you alread cleared out a dozen dungeons of Dreadmore and saved a dozen people from grisly fates.

Demosthenes wrote:
Petersmiler wrote:

So, after around 4 years playing WOW, and realising to keep up you have to devote your life to it, I have left Azeroth!

And this is the first game I have fired up that meets my needs for a game. And it feels so relaxed after four years of chasing everyone elses tails. I can actually play the game at my pace and not feel I'm missing out or being harrassed to do things I don't really want to do. And it's so nice seeing a herb to collect and not panicking that someone will fly in and steal it while I fight a pig nearby! And I can create my own clothes and weapons which I can then enchant as well as creating my own potions! And all in the comfort of my armchair with just a controller and my 60" TV to view it on.

Anyway, loving the game so far.

Heh, made the transition with Fallout 3 and Bethesda's games certainly are a nice "step-down" from WoW. I do miss my Rusted Protodrake from that northern raid instance during Wrath of the Lich King. The fact that I can't even remember what it was called feels kind good actually. :D

I bet it does - and I hope I start forgetting all about WOW too - it's so nice having my life back

Oh, and I've just bought Fallout 3 for £3 on PS3! Going to wait until I have finished/got bored of Skyrim first though otherwise I may get distracted!

Petersmiler wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
Petersmiler wrote:

So, after around 4 years playing WOW, and realising to keep up you have to devote your life to it, I have left Azeroth!

And this is the first game I have fired up that meets my needs for a game. And it feels so relaxed after four years of chasing everyone elses tails. I can actually play the game at my pace and not feel I'm missing out or being harrassed to do things I don't really want to do. And it's so nice seeing a herb to collect and not panicking that someone will fly in and steal it while I fight a pig nearby! And I can create my own clothes and weapons which I can then enchant as well as creating my own potions! And all in the comfort of my armchair with just a controller and my 60" TV to view it on.

Anyway, loving the game so far.

Heh, made the transition with Fallout 3 and Bethesda's games certainly are a nice "step-down" from WoW. I do miss my Rusted Protodrake from that northern raid instance during Wrath of the Lich King. The fact that I can't even remember what it was called feels kind good actually. :D

I bet it does - and I hope I start forgetting all about WOW too - it's so nice having my life back

Oh, and I've just bought Fallout 3 for £3 on PS3! Going to wait until I have finished/got bored of Skyrim first though otherwise I may get distracted!

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me.

m0nk3yboy wrote:

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me. ;)

I agree! Both terrific games, but I'd definitely want to play something completely different between them.

LibrarianX wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me. ;)

I agree! Both terrific games, but I'd definitely want to play something completely different between them.

Thanks for the advice both, I will try and think of something to play in the middle!

Anyway, level 13 and counting. Absolutely loving the game and, due to my lateness joining the party it seems I will have DLC to play when I finish the main story.

By the way, am I the only idiot who spent 2 hours trying the fear the seals on the beach near the mages college? She said to me something along the lines of 'Use a fear spell on the seal below me.' in order to gain access to the college. As I had just seen some walrus/seal type creatures on the beach I assumed she meant those. After fearing several without any text telling me I'd completed the quest, I bought the guide. I felt such a fool when I noticed the seal at her feet.......

Petersmiler wrote:
LibrarianX wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me. ;)

I agree! Both terrific games, but I'd definitely want to play something completely different between them.

Thanks for the advice both, I will try and think of something to play in the middle!

Anyway, level 13 and counting. Absolutely loving the game and, due to my lateness joining the party it seems I will have DLC to play when I finish the main story.

By the way, am I the only idiot who spent 2 hours trying the fear the seals on the beach near the mages college? She said to me something along the lines of 'Use a fear spell on the seal below me.' in order to gain access to the college. As I had just seen some walrus/seal type creatures on the beach I assumed she meant those. After fearing several without any text telling me I'd completed the quest, I bought the guide. I felt such a fool when I noticed the seal at her feet.......

That's an awesome story! It's just bad luck on your part. I think she chooses which spell you have to use randomly. They are all low level spells, though.

Mere Anarchy wrote:
Petersmiler wrote:
LibrarianX wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me. ;)

I agree! Both terrific games, but I'd definitely want to play something completely different between them.

Thanks for the advice both, I will try and think of something to play in the middle!

Anyway, level 13 and counting. Absolutely loving the game and, due to my lateness joining the party it seems I will have DLC to play when I finish the main story.

By the way, am I the only idiot who spent 2 hours trying the fear the seals on the beach near the mages college? She said to me something along the lines of 'Use a fear spell on the seal below me.' in order to gain access to the college. As I had just seen some walrus/seal type creatures on the beach I assumed she meant those. After fearing several without any text telling me I'd completed the quest, I bought the guide. I felt such a fool when I noticed the seal at her feet.......

That's an awesome story! It's just bad luck on your part. I think she chooses which spell you have to use randomly. They are all low level spells, though.

It was Magelight for me, which I thought just made sense - because then she hit the rest of the pots with Magelight as we were walking to the College proper...

McIrishJihad wrote:
Mere Anarchy wrote:
Petersmiler wrote:
LibrarianX wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me. ;)

I agree! Both terrific games, but I'd definitely want to play something completely different between them.

Thanks for the advice both, I will try and think of something to play in the middle!

Anyway, level 13 and counting. Absolutely loving the game and, due to my lateness joining the party it seems I will have DLC to play when I finish the main story.

By the way, am I the only idiot who spent 2 hours trying the fear the seals on the beach near the mages college? She said to me something along the lines of 'Use a fear spell on the seal below me.' in order to gain access to the college. As I had just seen some walrus/seal type creatures on the beach I assumed she meant those. After fearing several without any text telling me I'd completed the quest, I bought the guide. I felt such a fool when I noticed the seal at her feet.......

That's an awesome story! It's just bad luck on your part. I think she chooses which spell you have to use randomly. They are all low level spells, though.

It was Magelight for me, which I thought just made sense - because then she hit the rest of the pots with Magelight as we were walking to the College proper...

Whereas I got summon Flame Atronoch for 30 gold from that lady.

Demosthenes wrote:
McIrishJihad wrote:
Mere Anarchy wrote:
Petersmiler wrote:
LibrarianX wrote:
m0nk3yboy wrote:

You may need to find a palette cleanser between Bethesda courses. I went from Elder Scrolls - Oblivion to Fallout 3, and it nearly killed me. ;)

I agree! Both terrific games, but I'd definitely want to play something completely different between them.

Thanks for the advice both, I will try and think of something to play in the middle!

Anyway, level 13 and counting. Absolutely loving the game and, due to my lateness joining the party it seems I will have DLC to play when I finish the main story.

By the way, am I the only idiot who spent 2 hours trying the fear the seals on the beach near the mages college? She said to me something along the lines of 'Use a fear spell on the seal below me.' in order to gain access to the college. As I had just seen some walrus/seal type creatures on the beach I assumed she meant those. After fearing several without any text telling me I'd completed the quest, I bought the guide. I felt such a fool when I noticed the seal at her feet.......

That's an awesome story! It's just bad luck on your part. I think she chooses which spell you have to use randomly. They are all low level spells, though.

It was Magelight for me, which I thought just made sense - because then she hit the rest of the pots with Magelight as we were walking to the College proper...

Whereas I got summon Flame Atronoch for 30 gold from that lady. :)

I have done that twice and each time had to summon Atronoch's.

So it seems I was the only idiot trying to fear seals on the beach. Why couldn't she have asked me to summon a familiar or something else!

Anyway, I then spent several hours trying to get on the right side of the Jarl of Markarth cos I wanted the house there, only to then read the guide which told me I couldn't even get the house until I was level 20. I'm still only level 14! Anyway, I sulked for a little while and then decided I would start clearing out the secondary quests I already had in my quest book and just happened to clear the bandit camp for the Jarl of Whiterun (I think it was there anyway, I was little, er, worse for wear when I did it last night) who then said I could buy a house there. Result, although you can't have an enchanting station in it unfortunately.