The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Catch-All

FedoraMcQuaid wrote:

Also, Solitude is way cooler than Windhelm.

Oh? Guess I'll have to play through again in Solitude. I'm not allowed in at the moment due to a conflict of interest.....

Katy wrote:
emyln wrote:

Am I just overthinking it too much? Also has anyone else abused the pressure plate trap that causes a bladed door to slam into you? I've caused myself so much self damage just to increase Restoration to 41 right now. My goal is to get to 60 and get that 50% magic regen perk.

Spoiler:

To level Illusion really really fast, just buy the muffle spell and cast it. initially 2 casts is enough for a level. And you can chain cast it mana allowing. Now to find that Invisibility spell.

I'm pretty sure this sort of behavior is a time-honored Elder Scrolls tradition.

In Morrowind, I remember repeatedly climbing up to the top of a lighthouse and jumping off to level up a certain skill.

Katy wrote:
emyln wrote:

Am I just overthinking it too much? Also has anyone else abused the pressure plate trap that causes a bladed door to slam into you? I've caused myself so much self damage just to increase Restoration to 41 right now. My goal is to get to 60 and get that 50% magic regen perk.

Spoiler:

To level Illusion really really fast, just buy the muffle spell and cast it. initially 2 casts is enough for a level. And you can chain cast it mana allowing. Now to find that Invisibility spell.

I'm pretty sure this sort of behavior is a time-honored Elder Scrolls tradition.

I was disappointed that my constant jumping is not rewarded anymore.

Nightmare wrote:
Katy wrote:
emyln wrote:

Am I just overthinking it too much? Also has anyone else abused the pressure plate trap that causes a bladed door to slam into you? I've caused myself so much self damage just to increase Restoration to 41 right now. My goal is to get to 60 and get that 50% magic regen perk.

Spoiler:

To level Illusion really really fast, just buy the muffle spell and cast it. initially 2 casts is enough for a level. And you can chain cast it mana allowing. Now to find that Invisibility spell.

I'm pretty sure this sort of behavior is a time-honored Elder Scrolls tradition.

I was disappointed that my constant jumping is not rewarded anymore. :)

Ah yes, the good old days of hopping up and down the stairs to the Temple of Vivec

I'm still not sure if shield bashing levels the Block skill, but sometimes I'll burn my entire stamina bar bashing an enemy to death just in case.

As far as I can tell so far, the Stormcloak position is basically that Nords are awesome and everybody else should get the f*ck out of Skyrim. Is that about the just of it?

If that's the case, my wood elf should probably side with the Imperial Army.

Oh, by the way, when somebody in Markrath asks you do investigate an abandoned house with him, don't do it when you're about to go to bed. You will not sleep well.

NIGHT FALLS ON MR. JUMBLES

Last night, as Lydia and I were clearing out a disturbance in Winter Hold, who should enter the fray but that betrayer of kinsmen, Mr. Jumbles. He galloped into the town, reared and hoofed me in the head. "The c*ck has crowed thrice!" I yelled, remembering the other slights and injuries I have suffered at his hooves. The out-and-out attacks hurt less than the times when he saw me in need and turned his long face away. "ET TU JUMBLES?" Unfortunately for him, I was not alone. This time I had Lydia, a true and loyal friend. And she put her sword through his neck. I didn't know how to stop her but I wonder even now if I would have if I could. As he lay in a heap, cradled in the tusks of a long-dead mammoth, I reflected on how things had gone so wrong between us. It was only a week ago (in game time) we had found one another in a cold camp not far from here. I wonder how things could have been different. But perhaps it was meant to be. Maybe in his heart of hearts, Mr. Jumbles was just a murderhorse.

IMAGE(http://i1196.photobucket.com/albums/aa415/Scott_Benson/The_Death_of_MrJumbles.png)

Oh no! The sad end to the tale of Mr. Jumbles. Beware lest some foul necromancer espies the potential in his corpse and the stalking begins anew, with a risen Mr. Jumbles.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

As far as I can tell so far, the Stormcloak position is basically that Nords are awesome and everybody else should get the f*ck out of Skyrim. Is that about the just of it?

If that's the case, my wood elf should probably side with the Imperial Army.

There is a certain amount of that. There are a couple of Stormcloak cities where the elves are definitely less than welcome.

Of course, everyone still hates the Argonians.

Puce Moose wrote:

Oh no! The sad end to the tale of Mr. Jumbles. Beware lest some foul necromancer espies the potential in his corpse and the stalking begins anew, with a risen Mr. Jumbles.

I may go back and reanimate him myself. He was the thing most dedicated to killing me in all of Skyrim, but I liked the world better with him in it.

We had a complicated relationship.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

Oh, by the way, when somebody in Markrath asks you do investigate an abandoned house with him, don't do it when you're about to go to bed. You will not sleep well.

Yeah that's a creepy one, especially if you finish the quest chain. I got a cool mace, but I don't feel good about what I did to earn it.

FedoraMcQuaid wrote:
Nightmare wrote:
Katy wrote:
emyln wrote:

Am I just overthinking it too much? Also has anyone else abused the pressure plate trap that causes a bladed door to slam into you? I've caused myself so much self damage just to increase Restoration to 41 right now. My goal is to get to 60 and get that 50% magic regen perk.

Spoiler:

To level Illusion really really fast, just buy the muffle spell and cast it. initially 2 casts is enough for a level. And you can chain cast it mana allowing. Now to find that Invisibility spell.

I'm pretty sure this sort of behavior is a time-honored Elder Scrolls tradition.

I was disappointed that my constant jumping is not rewarded anymore. :)

Ah yes, the good old days of hopping up and down the stairs to the Temple of Vivec

Ah, but Skyrim has revolutionized the process of leveling your skills in cheesy ways! In case you missed it earlier in the thread, trainers keep the money you pay them in their tradable/pickpocketabe inventory in Skyrim (something I expect just might get changed in a future patch, for the following reason). As such, if you find a trainer who can also be a follower (such as the archery trainer found in Riverwood) you can make them your follower and then just trade your gold back. And if you can't make them your follower, you can just pickpocket your gold back. Just beware, though -- pickpocketing sums of money over 200 gold or so is pretty much an instant skill up no matter what your pickpocketing skill is, so you can very quickly find yourself under geared and under skilled for your level as a result of such shenanigans.

Of course, this particular state of affairs should be quite familiar to any veteran Elder Scrolls min-maxer. And hey, it makes combat MUCH more interesting, for what that's worth.

EDIT: That said, I have at this point mostly stopped using this method AND switched to a Standing Stone blessing that doesn't boost your skill learning rate to give myself some time to catch up my gear/shouts/etc. At a certain point (as with all power leveling techniques) things do get a little silly.

I am incapable of choosing a side in the civil war. As the dragonborn, I find the disrespect to Talos unacceptable, but I see the threat of the Thalmor may require a united Empire (healmd by a Dragonborn, of course...), and the ban on Talos worship was an imposition on the Empire by the Thalmor in the first place. Tough call, maybe its better to put down this Alduin threat before deciding.

Spoiler:

Oh, and of course, rebuild my personal guard and dragon hunters The Blades. I'm reall excited about recruiting followers to be part of the Blades for some reason.

God damn, TES really is the fantasy world that clicks for me and really makes me nerd out hard.

bombsfall wrote:
Puce Moose wrote:

Oh no! The sad end to the tale of Mr. Jumbles. Beware lest some foul necromancer espies the potential in his corpse and the stalking begins anew, with a risen Mr. Jumbles.

I may go back and reanimate him myself. He was the thing most dedicated to killing me in all of Skyrim, but I liked the world better with him in it.

We had a complicated relationship.

Just beware how long your reanimation spell lasts for because i found out to my dismay (and presumably to the poor husband of a recently deceased woman in Riften) that when the spell finishes the reanimated corpse turns to ash.

Hope they were wanting a cremation....

Oh BOY!

*Exits quickly*

muttonchop wrote:

I'm still not sure if shield bashing levels the Block skill, but sometimes I'll burn my entire stamina bar bashing an enemy to death just in case.

How do you shield bash? I have the perk but haven't quite figured out how it works yet.

Also, I found Lydia before I bought my house. If you need to find her (when she leaves when another companion joins up), hit up Dragonreach around meal time and you'll see her sitting at the table.

cheesycrouton wrote:
Falchion wrote:

Hmm...I guess as a ESDF user I'm screwed when it comes to adding things to my favorite list while in the menu. Tried all the keys and nothing works while I have F bound to Strafe Right.

It's a hack, but how about this?.... Straight-up remap the keys with autohotkey...

skyrim.ahk
-------------------------------------------

#SingleInstance force ;Only allow one instance of this script to be running

;Make ESDFG press WASDF
e::w ;press e, send w (move forward)
s::a ;press s, send a (move left)
d::s ;press d, send s (move left)
f:: d ;press f, send d (move left) <---remove the space before the "d" (used to avoid forum smiley)
g::f ;press g, send f (set favorite)

-------------------------------------------

I spent several hours figuring it out and luckily documented it.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php...

Nevin73 wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

I'm still not sure if shield bashing levels the Block skill, but sometimes I'll burn my entire stamina bar bashing an enemy to death just in case.

How do you shield bash? I have the perk but haven't quite figured out how it works yet.

Also, I found Lydia before I bought my house. If you need to find her (when she leaves when another companion joins up), hit up Dragonreach around meal time and you'll see her sitting at the table.

You don't need a perk to shield bash. You just attack whilst blocking. That's how you also set people.... er, i mean vicious enemies alight with your torch.....

I spent several hours figuring it out and luckily documented it.

http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php......

There's also a mod that sorts out this and other interface remapping issues, but Nexus is down right now so I can't provide a link. (Also, I couldn't tell you how well it works, since the default mapping is fine for me.)

Wait, wait, wait! You can charge your shouts?

tanstaafl wrote:

And given that Talos was Tiber Septimus, the first Cryodill Emperor, there is probably a reason that the group that was until recently at war with the Empire might like to see what was basically their founder lose power...

...and it's really weird that the Stormcloaks worship Talos, while the Empire doesn't anymore. (That invocation of the "Eight Divines" in the tutorial made me sit up and say "What?")

I haven't gotten into the civil war at all; are the Stormcloaks the isolationists that I'd vaguely gotten the impression they were, or do they use the Talos thing to claim to be the "true" Empire?

(Sooner or later, I'll figure out what my character's religious inclinations are. The one shrine he's prayed at thus far was dedicated to Talos, but as a Dunmer wizard, he has several reasons to venerate Azura.)

karmajay wrote:

Wait, wait, wait! You can charge your shouts?

When you unlock the 2nd and 3rd level of them you can choose to not use those by just tapping the key

mrwynd wrote:
FedoraMcQuaid wrote:

Also, Solitude is way cooler than Windhelm.

Oh? Guess I'll have to play through again in Solitude. I'm not allowed in at the moment due to a conflict of interest.....

Nuh uh! Nothing beats the narrow alleys between Windhelm's stony walls.

karmajay wrote:

Wait, wait, wait! You can charge your shouts?

Each shout is made up of three words, but you need to learn each word separately. For example, with Unrelenting Force you start with just the first word, Fus, and then learn the other two later. Once you've learned and unlocked more words in a shout you can hold down the button longer to "charge" a shout by speaking the second and third word. Generally this makes the shout more effective and also increases the cooldown time.

Also, for anyone who's been putting off visiting the Greybeards, go visit them. Right now. You can put off the rest of the story as long as you want, but visiting the Greybeards will help teach you about the shout system, give you the second two words to Unrelenting Force, and teach you a brand new shout. I'd recommend visiting them as early as possible.

karmajay wrote:

Wait, wait, wait! You can charge your shouts?

You didn't listen (or visit) to the Greybeards, right? They tell you all about having more than one word and charging it up to make it more powerful and directed.

Also, for each shout (in the magic menu) it tells you that each successive word means a longer recharge time - each time is listed under the shout's info.

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Okay, so I have a question that's probably going to make me look stupid... Why is it that sometimes when i go through a dungeon that it gets listed as "cleared" and other times, even though to the best of my knowledge i've gone through and cleared out another dungeon it doesn't get this label?

misplacedbravado wrote:
tanstaafl wrote:

And given that Talos was Tiber Septimus, the first Cryodill Emperor, there is probably a reason that the group that was until recently at war with the Empire might like to see what was basically their founder lose power...

...and it's really weird that the Stormcloaks worship Talos, while the Empire doesn't anymore. (That invocation of the "Eight Divines" in the tutorial made me sit up and say "What?")

I haven't gotten into the civil war at all; are the Stormcloaks the isolationists that I'd vaguely gotten the impression they were, or do they use the Talos thing to claim to be the "true" Empire?

(Sooner or later, I'll figure out what my character's religious inclinations are. The one shrine he's prayed at thus far was dedicated to Talos, but as a Dunmer wizard, he has several reasons to venerate Azura.)

It depends on who you talk to.

The Empire abolished Talos worship because that was a condition of ending the war with the Dominion. I'm guessing they were willing to do this because the Semptim line died out 200 years ago (at the end of Oblivion) so they probably don't think much about it anymore. The Nords still worshiped Talos because he was one of them and see this as the Empire not supporting them.

The Empire's official view is that Ulfric is simply making a grab for power (he did kill the lawful king of Skyrim, though his supporters claim said king was in the pay of the Empire) and is just using the Talos issue to gain support. The Stormcloaks claim that the Empire has abandoned them by not standing up for them on the Talos issue and is not protecting them from the Aldemari (who are rounding up the remaining Talos worshipers) and so they want to be free of the Empire.

I'm just amazed that there is this much detail in what is essentially a sidequest.

muttonchop wrote:

Also, for anyone who's been putting off visiting the Greybeards, go visit them. Right now. You can put off the rest of the story as long as you want, but visiting the Greybeards will help teach you about the shout system, give you the second two words to Unrelenting Force, and teach you a brand new shout. I'd recommend visiting them as early as possible.

The second two? I only got one?! (Plus the new shout)

Oh yeah, I need a mod that shows the actual cooldown timer for the shouts. It's infuriating to see that blue bar fade slightly... Then slightly more... ZZZZZZZZ I NEED TO SHOUT NOW DAMMIT ZZZZZZZZ

NSMike wrote:

Oh yeah, I need a mod that shows the actual cooldown timer for the shouts. It's infuriating to see that blue bar fade slightly... Then slightly more... ZZZZZZZZ I NEED TO SHOUT NOW DAMMIT ZZZZZZZZ

I'm a bit worried about some of the longer shout recharge times since once you use a shout it appears to be the case that its cool-down time applies to every other shout you have available. When that cooldown time is 300 seconds... well, it better be the be-all and end-all of shouts and a very desperate time to use it indeed!

misplacedbravado wrote:

I haven't gotten into the civil war at all; are the Stormcloaks the isolationists that I'd vaguely gotten the impression they were, or do they use the Talos thing to claim to be the "true" Empire?

Mostly isolationist. They want Skyrim to be ruled by the Nords, and they don't want some foreign empire dictating who they can and can't worship. There's also a lot of anti-elf xenophobia in Skyrim, so the Empire's treaty with the Thalmor is a big problem for the Stormcloaks. Some Stormcloaks are pretty distrustful of anyone who isn't a Nord, but in general the movement seems to be mostly about severing their ties with the Empire and restoring Talos worship.

Duoae wrote:
muttonchop wrote:

Also, for anyone who's been putting off visiting the Greybeards, go visit them. Right now. You can put off the rest of the story as long as you want, but visiting the Greybeards will help teach you about the shout system, give you the second two words to Unrelenting Force, and teach you a brand new shout. I'd recommend visiting them as early as possible.

The second two? I only got one?! (Plus the new shout)

You might need to do the next Greybeard quest to get the third word, I can't remember.