The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Catch-All

jdzappa wrote:

Baron, what mods did you use to get the skimpy outfits and lingerie look? Yes I'm still 12 at heart.

Body mod = Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/2666

The bandit is using remodel elfin armor from Remodeled Armor mod
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/download...

Vilja is wearing Alyn Shir Armor
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/237...

Serana is wearing Shredded Tris Armor
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18113

90% of all female armor mods are skimpy. I'm currently using CBBE body but UNP, lady body, and Eye Candy are all good. You can just search nexus for CBBE or whatever body you are using and you will get hundreds of results

Another day past the exclusivity agreement time... another lack of communication. Should everyone expect an announcement for Dragonborn today? Probably not... well, maybe PC as theirs have generally be pretty quick after the 30 day Xbox time ends. I just don't get it, even saying, hey we're hard at work, here's what we're thinking, keep in mind this is subject to change (do not change it with like an hour to go, that won't work well, plan in advance), and they'd be golden. Instead it's stonewall silence yet again. Meanwhile the PR department is pumping out ESO information like no other. *rolls eyes* Designers, artists, etc...? Great! PR? What are they even being paid for?

Word is that it is coming out on the 13th.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

Word is that it is coming out on the 13th.

Hate to do this but... source? Lots of theories out there but never anything from Bethesda so far.

Nothing official, could be BS. We shall see.

All the previous expansions have come out on a Tuesday or Thursday, the 13th is a Sunday.

Maybe it'll come out today or tomorrow.

And maybe tiny demons who shoot rainbows from their eyes will spring from my butt when I bend over?

Remember 1 month from xbox release would be today. Wasn't the last two one month from xbox release give or take a day?

According to UESP, Hearthfire had a calendar month gap, but Dawnguard was released on the Xbox 360 on June 26 and for the PC on August 2.

But wasn't Dawnguard delayed so that they could release it at Quakecon? Or am I thinking about something else entirely.

Baron Of Hell wrote:

Remember 1 month from xbox release would be today. Wasn't the last two one month from xbox release give or take a day?

December 4th was Xbox's release for Dragonborn. Was my birthday and a wonderful day of listening to my boss jokingly gloat he had downloaded it, and he still hasn't played it due to Halo 4.

I think the previous 2 for PC was about a 35 day gap, but as a now PS3 player due to convenience, that doesn't mean much to me either.

tanstaafl wrote:

But wasn't Dawnguard delayed so that they could release it at Quakecon? Or am I thinking about something else entirely.

I dunno if it was delayed but that's where it was announced that it was being released that day. Not really heard of a SURPRISE IT'S OUT! strategy in PR before, but ya know, whatever.

I guess the place to watch is here: http://cdr.thebronasium.com/app/search - to see when they add it to steam. (or here)

All they've ever said is "early 2013". I don't think I've even seen January as a confirmed date.

I read on the Bethesda blog that PS3 would get Dragonborn before the other two. Let me see if I can dig up the link.

Edit: Here - comment made by "gstaff" from Bethesda toward the bottom of the comments.

tboon wrote:

I read on the Bethesda blog that PS3 would get Dragonborn before the other two. Let me see if I can dig up the link.

Well, given that Xbox has it, and we don't. Fail!

EDIT: Oh, I see what you mean, Dragonborn before Dawnguard and Hearthfire, yeah. PS3 is waiting for their first DLC, which will be Dragonborn, then we'll see about the other bits later. Still think its funny that they can't bring Dragonbone weapons and some of the other little things from Dawnguard to PS3 already. My assassin/thief is stuck with a glass bow.

Katy wrote:

All they've ever said is "early 2013". I don't think I've even seen January as a confirmed date.

They haven't said anything since then, and with the Xbox exclusivity period being over, not saying anything now just doesn't come off well after the months of not saying anything about the PlayStation3 versions of stuff. Was amusing, on the ES Forums on Bethesda's website... for the last month, the PC and PS3 players were "brothers in binds" to quote Ralof. Now we're past that period and some PC players are very quickly turning into "F*** the PS3, if the PC version is ready, release it now! They can still wait! I want it now!"

Either way, I can understand if there is no new news, or if there is bad news (like Mid February or March, which isn't really EARLY, and then you really should have just said Q1 2013)... but still, just SAY something. "It's not ready yet, we don't have a firm estimate but hope to be ready within X weeks, but keep in mind it'll be released when its ready." That's not great, but it's better than complete silence. Bethesda's PR is so good at hyping new products, but really falls flat when it comes to bad news or appeasing hungry and excited fans who want to play their products that aren't quite ready yet.

The annoying thing from my PC gamer perspective is that the reasons for it not being released on PC are probably business related rather than technical. I can appreciate that the PS3 has got the short end of the stick technically too.

Scratched wrote:

The annoying thing from my PC gamer perspective is that the reasons for it not being released on PC are probably business related rather than technical. I can appreciate that the PS3 has got the short end of the stick technically too.

Yeah, I really hope Bethesda has learned a lesson in this and Fallout 4 isn't another instance of exclusivities. Just release it for everyone when its done. Having that one console get everything early doesn't make me want to buy that console, it makes me want to smack the guys who struck that deal for thinking that playing favorites with customers for money is a good idea when you clearly can't play favorites with everyone.

Demosthenes wrote:
Scratched wrote:

The annoying thing from my PC gamer perspective is that the reasons for it not being released on PC are probably business related rather than technical. I can appreciate that the PS3 has got the short end of the stick technically too.

Yeah, I really hope Bethesda has learned a lesson in this and Fallout 4 isn't another instance of exclusivities. Just release it for everyone when its done. Having that one console get everything early doesn't make me want to buy that console, it makes me want to smack the guys who struck that deal for thinking that playing favorites with customers for money is a good idea when you clearly can't play favorites with everyone. :P

I agree, but I also sigh to myself and think they wouldn't throw around the money to make those kinds of deals if they didn't work.

Scratched wrote:
Demosthenes wrote:
Scratched wrote:

The annoying thing from my PC gamer perspective is that the reasons for it not being released on PC are probably business related rather than technical. I can appreciate that the PS3 has got the short end of the stick technically too.

Yeah, I really hope Bethesda has learned a lesson in this and Fallout 4 isn't another instance of exclusivities. Just release it for everyone when its done. Having that one console get everything early doesn't make me want to buy that console, it makes me want to smack the guys who struck that deal for thinking that playing favorites with customers for money is a good idea when you clearly can't play favorites with everyone. :P

I agree, but I also sigh to myself and think they wouldn't throw around the money to make those kinds of deals if they didn't work.

Truth.

At this stage in the current-gen of consoles, I'm not sure these deals do 'work' in the way they are intended. How many people would now buy an Xbox, purely down to the early-access to DLC content? If it was a new console, or soon after release, then maybe so. I just can't help but think the MS just do it for 'bragging rights' in order to garner Company preferance with consumers between themselves and Sony, probably the majority of consumers have already chosen their path, or have enough spare cash to do both. I doubt they even really consider the PC as competition in this sense, at least in the current form of the PC gaming OS divide.

As both a PC and an xbox user, it actually pushes me away from MS that this kind of thing is done. I don't care who gets it 'first', I just want everyone to get it, and fairly, at the same time and at a fair cost. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Sony would love to have the exclusive, and they'd be in the same boat. Surely there can't be any 'surprises' left in Dragonborn once it's been out for 30 days on one platform and there have been countless reviews/blogs? (unless, like I, you completely media blackout the subject of Dragonborn content).

On the other hand, I have plenty still to do in Skyrim before the DLC gets here, so I better get smithing

(unless, like I, you completely media blackout the subject of Dragonborn content)

Yup, haven't read a single review except to check scores just to get an idea of how it was.

Dawnguard, pretty much spoiled to death at this point. The dragonbone weapons and crossbows are my main desire from that. Hearthfire, well there wasn't much to spoil there anyway really.

My question is, what is Bethesda's play towards PS3 when they catch up going to be? Both addons were on sale in the Steam sale and Xbox Live stores for 50-75% off. Are they really expecting to release at full price to PS3? I can't imagine that going over well for them either.

Scratched wrote:

This is probably a good place to start: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/sea...

More like category 34.

wordsmythe wrote:
Scratched wrote:

This is probably a good place to start: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/sea...

More like category 34.

...I see what you did there.

Another day, another lack of updates from Bethesda. I don't get it, clearly. I would have thought, in PR, your main job when getting ready to release something cool would be "Hey, look at this cool thing, get excited because you can buy it (approximately) this date!" I'm beginning to wonder if the exclusivity agreements included marketing of DLCs to groups outside of Xbox, as there's really no reason for this kind of stonewall on even a "we're working on it still, we'll update you in a week".

I could even get them not giving dates and sticking to a "when it's done" style development (though I don't think anything from Bethesda Softworks could ever really be called "done" more like, "we're sick of working on it, we'll fix stuff when we get some motivation back, enjoy what you can".

Or, we don't actually know it's ready. Although I very much doubt it's unfinished at least on PC, whether it is or not is only known by Bethesda.

That said, I'll agree on the lack of communication. Crap PR seems to be either the cause or a huge amplifier to disgruntled (potential) customers. Even bad news isn't so bad as keeping people in the dark.

Scratched wrote:

Or, we don't actually know it's ready. Although I very much doubt it's unfinished at least on PC, whether it is or not is only known by Bethesda.

That said, I'll agree on the lack of communication. Crap PR seems to be either the cause or a huge amplifier to disgruntled (potential) customers. Even bad news isn't so bad as keeping people in the dark.

At the very least, PC should be ready, it's a module basically.

But yeah, Bad news sucks, but it's ripping off a bandaid. Rather than just ripping it off, Bethesda's approach seems to be... wait until fully healed and the bandaid has gotten little bits of water under the edge of the adhesive and is ready to fall off without any effort.

According to Gstaff on the Bethesda forums: Not this week.

:'(

Non Dragonborn quandary: My first character was a night blade style mage/thief that I got into the 20s before I realized I had spread out my points too much and further leveling was going to be painful. I've started a two handed warrior and been powering through the companion and main storyline quests. Here's the problem - two handed is super boring. Overall I like my warrior but want a different play style than rushing in and cutting things down in a few hits. Is there any way to make two handed weapons more interesting? Should I switch to sword and board or two weapons?

jdzappa wrote:

Non Dragonborn quandary: My first character was a night blade style mage/thief that I got into the 20s before I realized I had spread out my points too much and further leveling was going to be painful. I've started a two handed warrior and been powering through the companion and main storyline quests. Here's the problem - two handed is super boring. Overall I like my warrior but want a different play style than rushing in and cutting things down in a few hits. Is there any way to make two handed weapons more interesting? Should I switch to sword and board or two weapons?

Sword and board is definitely interesting... especially as you get into some of the block skills (the one to slow time as someone is power attacking is especially overpowered and awesome. I could see playing one handed with some magic backup working too, something like illusion to control enemies (fear, frenzy, later paralyze or even invisibility to really mess with them) or destruction focusing on ice and lightning to drain opponents stamina and mana respectively.