The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Mod Thread

And there it is! The true 'game' in the Elder Scrolls series.. modding the hell out of things for hours on end, getting it all working perfectly in harmony, and then not actually playing the game

Strangeblades wrote:

OK. I might have gone overboard with all these mods. I think I had 60 or more running at once. I spent more time making sure all the mods worked rather than playing the dern game! I was like a rich kid in a candy store.

I've decided to wipe the Skyrim install and start over, only this time playing with a few mods activated. Then add more mods when the need/interest arises.

Nah, that's not overboard at all. I've had > 200 running before.

And yeah, modding is the true game of Skyrim. The game is just there to test that the mods work as expected.

When a mod suggests it installs via a FOMOD External Installer or something, does Mod Organizer handle that for you? Mod Organizer has this list of installers and I assume it picks the right one for the right mod.

It will execute the FOMOD installer for you and keep track of its parts, yes. You have to tell it what to install though.

tboon wrote:

It will execute the FOMOD installer for you and keep track of its parts, yes. You have to tell it what to install though.

Thanks.

So, I recently bought a new PC and I wanted to start modding my Skyrim to take full advantage of my GTX 970 videocard and killer CPU. However, I'm not really sure where to begin. There are a thousand threads and guides for this all over the internet, and you guys seem to know your sh*t, so I figure I'd ask here. Where's a good place to start? What guides are good/bad, what should I avoid, etc?

I'm running a Windows 8 machine, if that affects the decision. Any help is appreciated.

Tengrii wrote:

So, I recently bought a new PC and I wanted to start modding my Skyrim to take full advantage of my GTX 970 videocard and killer CPU. However, I'm not really sure where to begin.

Toon Skyrim.

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Gravey wrote:
Tengrii wrote:

So, I recently bought a new PC and I wanted to start modding my Skyrim to take full advantage of my GTX 970 videocard and killer CPU. However, I'm not really sure where to begin.

Toon Skyrim.

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I never knew how badly I wanted this until now.

Zudz wrote:
Gravey wrote:
Tengrii wrote:

So, I recently bought a new PC and I wanted to start modding my Skyrim to take full advantage of my GTX 970 videocard and killer CPU. However, I'm not really sure where to begin.

Toon Skyrim.

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/16py6Xl.png)

IMAGE(http://i.imgur.com/Rhb68aw.png)

I never knew how badly I wanted this until now.

+1... love it!

That. Is. AWESOME!

I know what I'm installing this weekend.

EDIT: Or whenever it actually launches.

Tengrii wrote:

So, I recently bought a new PC and I wanted to start modding my Skyrim to take full advantage of my GTX 970 videocard and killer CPU. However, I'm not really sure where to begin. There are a thousand threads and guides for this all over the internet, and you guys seem to know your sh*t, so I figure I'd ask here. Where's a good place to start? What guides are good/bad, what should I avoid, etc?

I'm running a Windows 8 machine, if that affects the decision. Any help is appreciated.

I would start with STEP. This is a collection of 200+ mods that are curated, work well with each other, and generally a good baseline for enhancing Skyrim. Reddit has a great beginner's guide for installing mods.

G.E.M.S. is another good resource; the top two or three mods that they list in any given category tend to be best-in-class, so choose among them depending on what you're wanting to change, how much, and how compatible it looks to be with whatever else you've got in your mod list. (Read the Nexus descriptions carefully for known conflicts.)

McIrishJihad wrote:
Tengrii wrote:

So, I recently bought a new PC and I wanted to start modding my Skyrim to take full advantage of my GTX 970 videocard and killer CPU. However, I'm not really sure where to begin. There are a thousand threads and guides for this all over the internet, and you guys seem to know your sh*t, so I figure I'd ask here. Where's a good place to start? What guides are good/bad, what should I avoid, etc?

I'm running a Windows 8 machine, if that affects the decision. Any help is appreciated.

I would start with STEP. This is a collection of 200+ mods that are curated, work well with each other, and generally a good baseline for enhancing Skyrim. Reddit has a great beginner's guide for installing mods.

I will follow the beginner's guide and see how far I get. Thanks for the suggestion!

I've gone through hours of videos and stuff. Ask any questions here.

Pretty Enderal update video:

Hello there, good folks, I turn to you with a question. It is about a bug rendering Skyrim unplayable for me.

So there I was, playing a modded out Skyrim as you do, having put in 300+ hours into it, having over 600 save games. Then I moved.

Moving brought about two changes:

1. I wasn't playing on TV anymore
2. I had a different internet provider.

Still, a perfectly working Skyrim decided to stop after showing the title screen (with the rectangular dragon that is the Empire's symbol) but not showing the main menu.

I freaked out first but then decided okay, it's time to start something new, a vanilla experience (I had bought the game in 2014 and never played it unmodded). So I went into Steam, deleted local content, and enjoying the actual fast broadband internet, I redownloaded Skyrim. NEver bothered with deactivating/deleting the mods, I just thought a fresh start is better for everyone.

I started the game. I started a new character, I started to play. Never made it out of Helgen, the game crashed to a black screen, forcing me to hard reset. This went on, never actually being able for more than half an hour, sometimes it was less than five minutes.

I was obviously frustrated, went to nexus and saw that it still shows all my mods as active. Instead of deactivating them, I realised that when Steam deletes local content, it leaves some dirt behind. I deleted the local content, deleted the remaining files from Steams steamapps folder, redownloaded Skyrim being sure I'd solved the mystery.

Nope. Same thing: game crashes to a black screen after 5-20 minutes of gameplay.

Step three: I realised that I still have the save games. I realised that and went straight to My Documents, where I found a Skyrim folder. I removed the local content like a seasoned pro, and then deleted both the dirt left behind by Steam AND the Skyrim folder in My Documents. Redownload, expect miracle...

Nope.

Now I went to Steam, disabled Steam Cloud, went to nexus, deleted all the mods (they were deactivated since my first attempt to reinstall), removed local content, uninstalled nexus, reinstall.

Nope.

So guys. I have two months until Fallout 4 comes out. I need to see the end credits roll for Skyrim by then. Help me have a working copy of Skyrim again!

Hmm. My first guess is that it's actually more likely to be caused by a change to the rest of the system rather than the presumably now-clean install of Skyrim itself. Have you installed any new hardware since it used to work? Or new drivers?

First step should probably be making sure that your video card drivers are up-to-date. (Problems with GPU drivers are the most common cause of crashes, especially during random gameplay like you're seeing.)

I'd highly recommend switching from Nexus's Mod Manager to Mod Organizer. It's much easier to troubleshoot since it doesn't put anything in the Skyrim folder directly (so no over-writing happens). and playing without a mod (to see if it's the cause of your problem) is as simple as unchecking a box (which can be checked again if it's not the culprit).

Bethesda's reputation for bugs is well earned so I'd recommend against going with just plain vanilla Skyrim. Get at least the unofficial patches, but the STEP guide is a good guide to fix a lot of other problems (not to mention it make the game look prettier).

Gremlin wrote:

Hmm. My first guess is that it's actually more likely to be caused by a change to the rest of the system rather than the presumably now-clean install of Skyrim itself. Have you installed any new hardware since it used to work? Or new drivers?

First step should probably be making sure that your video card drivers are up-to-date. (Problems with GPU drivers are the most common cause of crashes, especially during random gameplay like you're seeing.)

So I checked, I have an onboard video card and an 560Ti, and nVidia something something which updates the driver to the latest version, now it's at 355.82 (I may be wrong, the point is that it's the latest version). I removed the three mods I had added through steam workshop, deleted local content, deleted the skyrim folder in the steam folder, removed the skyrim folder in my documents, went and done a CCleaner run on both the temporary files and the registry, rebooted and reinstalled.

It crashed even before it turned out that the horse thief is from Rorikstead.

I have a suspicion. I might have left the onboard video card active in BIOS. Nothing is plugged into it, it hasn't caused any problems so far. Would it be wise to disable it?

Also, I'm going to test the rig by actually trying to play something else and see where that goes.

Cossyc wrote:

I have a suspicion. I might have left the onboard video card active in BIOS. Nothing is plugged into it, it hasn't caused any problems so far. Would it be wise to disable it?

Also, I'm going to test the rig by actually trying to play something else and see where that goes.

Both useful things to check out. It's really weird that the game starts to run and then crashes.

Something else to try: turn on logging.

Open Skyrim.ini (My Documents/My Games/Skyrim) and add/edit (most of this will already be there but set to 0, just change those to 1) the following in it:

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1

Afterward, in that same folder you will see a new folder called Logs. Inside that: Script. Inside Script you will (eventually) find 4 logs. Double click and they should open with notepad or any text editor. Papyrus.0.log is the most recent. At the end of it you will see the last process to happen before the crash.

This may give a clue as to what is going on.

Okay, so results:

1. I have two displays, I unplugged one - didn't work.
2. I wanted to disable the onboard GPU - it turns out my displays don't switch on until the windows login screen - could that be a symptom? The onboard GPU stays on for now, but as I said, nothing is plugged into it.
3. Before I started the new game I played a bit with XCOM and Fallout:New Vegas. About half an hour each, no crashes.
4. I decreased the graphics settings to High instead of Ultra High.

The final result: it didn't crash, I got to the Helgen Keep loading screen. The screen stayed empty, there was the usual smoke coming up, the music kept playing, it just didn't load the inside of Helgen Keep. I waited for five minutes, then forcequit to come and report on the findings.

So I should find a way to disable the onboard GPU. O yeah, the logs/scripts folder is empty.

Sometimes the onboard gpu can be disabled in bios?

omni wrote:

Sometimes the onboard gpu can be disabled in bios?

I'm sure it can, but as my displays don't seem to be receiving signals until the windows login screen comes up, I can't go to the BIOS now. I'll need to find a solution to that.

Cossyc wrote:

Okay, so results:

1. I have two displays, I unplugged one - didn't work.
2. I wanted to disable the onboard GPU - it turns out my displays don't switch on until the windows login screen - could that be a symptom? The onboard GPU stays on for now, but as I said, nothing is plugged into it.
3. Before I started the new game I played a bit with XCOM and Fallout:New Vegas. About half an hour each, no crashes.
4. I decreased the graphics settings to High instead of Ultra High.

The final result: it didn't crash, I got to the Helgen Keep loading screen. The screen stayed empty, there was the usual smoke coming up, the music kept playing, it just didn't load the inside of Helgen Keep. I waited for five minutes, then forcequit to come and report on the findings.

I've run into that on my first playthrough quite a bit, but haven't this time around (although I've got a new motherboard, cpu, and RAM this time around, so that certainly helps). It's supposedly a memory allocation issue. SKSE with this tweak should help with that at least.

An update. I tried to play with XCom. It crashed to black screen and I had to reboot using the power button just as it happened to me before with Skyrim.

Is it enough reason to be suspicious of the GFX card?

You could go into the Nvidia control panel and see if there are any obvious problems, I suppose. Maybe run Dxdiag.exe (DirectX Diagnostic)?

There's definitely some larger problem with your system, in that case. Could be your GPU. Could be an overheating problem. Could be an inadequate power supply. Could be a software issue in the GPU drivers. Could be the sound card, I guess.

STEP 2.2.9.2 is out (adds a couple of large-ish mods - Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch and Immersive Citizens AI Overhaul - as well as getting some mod author's OKs to put a number of mods in a single FOMOD for easier installation by STEP users).

I have some time off work and am kind of getting the itch again. Help me.

There's no escape, tboon - I installed the Wyrmstooth and Hidden City campaigns, and my dark elf is 40 hrs in, barely started the Civil War and not even been to the Thalmor Embassy yet.

Plenty of scaly deaths though, and I have finished the Dragonborn DLC. Still got Dawnguard to go.

Not bad for a game I first bought 4 years ago. PC really extends the life of these sort of things.