The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Catch-All

Yep, looks like us Aussies do get it early, mine is allowing me to install from the DVD now. I wish I didn't have to work tomorrow.

Meanwhile, back in the states:

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(Somehow this is not quite as exciting as a preload.)

Reviews are starting to pop up. From the three I've read so far the general consensus seems to be:

-holy crap is this game massive
-game mechanics, while simplified, are fun and work well
-the locations, items and abilities are very diverse
-the "infinite quests," while neat, tend to get samey after a while
-did we mention how big this game is?
-the visual design leans more towards Morrowind than Oblivion
-load times between interior and exterior locations are still too long
-animations, while better than Oblivion, are still somewhat awkward
-it is still very buggy
-despite it's flaws, it's still a great game
-this game? it's big.

I wonder how soon Amazon may have the digital version up for sale. They seem a bit hit or miss in being able to negotiate digital download version sales before release.

Falchion wrote:
Aaron D. wrote:

Skyrim Will Have Infinite Quests

So long, real life. It was nice knowing you.

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Ok I read that article and the link about the Radiant AI & Storytelling and it's what pushed me over the edge about Skyrim.

Let me just state for the record that I'm not a fan of Bethesda. I actually own Daggerfall, Morrowind and Oblivion and dis-liked all of them. They just never clicked for me, especially the lore. I just kept buying them because of the Promise. The promise that it could one day be what they always say it can be.

I believed that Skyrim would be just more of the same. While I liked Fallout 3, I still can't give Bethesda the benefit of the doubt to put down money on their latest magus opus. Besides I have Saint's Row 3 and Batman:AC on my plate this month.

But the more I hear, not of the story of the game but instead the stories that can arise from just willing to experience the environment they have crafted, the more I'm willing to give it a try once again.

Innovation, giving the player choices and letting them craft for themselves unique stories get me anytime over graphics or complicated lore.

I'm with you on this. I already discussed my feelings about Elder Scrolls and in particular Oblivion earlier in the thread. I am still taking the chance on this one though - Fallout 3 was decent, and I am not really interested in anything else new at the moment. Good job, Bethesda hype machine, you got me

FYI green man gaming has skyrim now. They just send you a steam cd key. It's 10% off with no tax (unlike direct2drive) and you can use any GMG credit you may have.

$2 referral link if anyone is interested

There have been a lot of users reporting issues with crashing at the menu introduction on the PC. So be wary.

ZaneRockfist wrote:

There have been a lot of users reporting issues with crashing at the menu introduction on the PC. So be wary.

Glad to hear it's a true Elder Scrolls game after all!

Why do I find it no surprise after reading this: Bethesda admits PC development is a "headache" - Rolling out the usual moans.

If you don't like developing for PC, you don't have to, but if you are developing for a platform then it seems logical that you have to factor in all it's quirks.

He's not saying they don't like it, but that it's more problematic than developing for hardware that won't change.

Which I don't think is wrong. In fact, the article refers more to RAGE than Skyrim, though I'm sure it's something of a preface.

The issue with crashing does not appear to be related to hardware. So either there is something wrong with the game itself or Steam itself. It could go either way.

How can I conquer these OCD urges and just allow myself to become part of the Skyrim world?

Zoloft.

ZaneRockfist wrote:

The issue with crashing does not appear to be related to hardware. So either there is something wrong with the game itself or Steam itself. It could go either way.

If there is something wrong with the game itself, it would be apparent in their pre-release testing.

Given the sheer breadth of hardware/driver/firmware combinations in the pc world, I am not at all surprised by release day crash issues.

Falchion wrote:
Rykin wrote:

"Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same f*cking thing over and over again expecting sh*t to change. That is crazy."

Yeah I know. That would explain my MMO habit too.

You may be my twin. Watch out because it's likely I'm the evil one.

All reviews are now coming in. Everyone giving it a 10/10 or 5/5 stars, but citing the usual technical glitches, some load times, and Oblivion-esque combat. Here's Jostiq's review. Pretty much what we were expecting.

I am worried about the PC version, but we here in NA will get to experience that soon enough. I hope people are having fun in future land!

Edit: And what Ruhk said. "This game is big."

I might actually move my laptop to my bedroom and turn the air conditioner on and stay in there until...whenever....
If this game is really that good....damn....so happy I have been invited to this bbq tomorrow...grrrrrr

Farscry wrote:

If there is something wrong with the game itself, it would be apparent in their pre-release testing.

Given the sheer breadth of hardware/driver/firmware combinations in the pc world, I am not at all surprised by release day crash issues.

Or, given the extensive history of Bethesda releases being buggy as ****, their testing isn't worth much or they have low quality standards.

For those playing on PCs experiencing crashing, try this solution out courtesy of whiplash9x:

"Hey guys, I was having this problem too and just stumbled on a solution that worked for me at least.

My sound device in windows was set to output at 192khz 24bit. When I set this back to 44.1khz 16bit it fixed the problem!

So to check, in win7 go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Sound

Pick your sound device that is set as default, click Properties.
Go to the Advanced tab and make sure the 'Default Format' it is set to 44.1khz 16bit.

I actually was able to set mine to 96khz 24bit and it works aswell, just doesn't seem to like 192khz.

Good luck!"

Scratched wrote:
Farscry wrote:

If there is something wrong with the game itself, it would be apparent in their pre-release testing.

Given the sheer breadth of hardware/driver/firmware combinations in the pc world, I am not at all surprised by release day crash issues.

Or, given the extensive history of Bethesda releases being buggy as ****, their testing isn't worth much or they have low quality standards.

The fact that they claimed to have developed an automated tester to run iterations of the game again and again made me laugh... my first question was 'who tested the automated tester'?

I just finished reading RPS's impressions and it's a great read. Some snippets.

I’ll admit, I’m in the camp that believes Bethesda’s games have been on a downward slide since the hallowed Morrowind. I got plenty out of Oblivion (especially the thieves’ and assassins’ guilds arcs) but it did feel hollow, bland and awkward compared to its predecessor. Fallout 3 I found boring, contrived and clumsy, though I deeply wanted to like it. I seriously worried Skyrim would, for all its talk of lavishness, depth and dragons, continue the transformation into a trudging, consolified action game filled with clunky acting. It does not. It slams on the brakes then reverses at dangerous speed back into Morrowind territory. Some things are lost (e.g. Persuasion is a sadly watered-down, irregular affair now mostly to do with shopping), many things are changed (e.g. recharging magic items can be done anywhere) and it’s certainly not as weird (no flying or Siltstriders), but it truly reclaims that sense of being in another world, rather than a generic soft-focus, over-familiar fantasyscape.
Not only is Skyrim, for my money, the game of the year, but… oh this is hard. Very hard. I’m sorry Morrowind – I love you, but I don’t need you anymore. I think, at last, there is a new Best Elder Scrolls Ever.

Reading Edge and Eurogamer next.

Edit: On an unrelated sidenote, I am loving ColdForged's userstyle he made back in 2008 that makes the forum easier on the eyes.

After the events of the final quest play out, you're simply left standing there, free to continue exploring or marauding or whatever it is you want to do. The only way to view the credits is from the title screen. That struck me as a really elegant way to handle things.

From Brad's review at GB. I'm happy to hear this. I'm also happy to hear that the main quest line is actually interesting.

garion333 wrote:
After the events of the final quest play out, you're simply left standing there, free to continue exploring or marauding or whatever it is you want to do. The only way to view the credits is from the title screen. That struck me as a really elegant way to handle things.

From Brad's review at GB. I'm happy to hear this. I'm also happy to hear that the main quest line is actually interesting.

Sounds like they took a note from Red Dead Redemption on that one. Nice.

ZaneRockfist wrote:

For those playing on PCs experiencing crashing, try this solution out courtesy of whiplash9x:

"Hey guys, I was having this problem too and just stumbled on a solution that worked for me at least.

My sound device in windows was set to output at 192khz 24bit. When I set this back to 44.1khz 16bit it fixed the problem!

So to check, in win7 go to Control Panel -> Hardware and Sound -> Sound

Pick your sound device that is set as default, click Properties.
Go to the Advanced tab and make sure the 'Default Format' it is set to 44.1khz 16bit.

I actually was able to set mine to 96khz 24bit and it works aswell, just doesn't seem to like 192khz.

Good luck!"

I find it incredibly amusing how there are already half-baked fixes to crash issues before the game is released in NA.

The Australians are looking out for you.

Be grateful, or they'll throw *you* on the barbie!

For those of us who wait eagerly:

Does that say 4 and a half HOURS, Grubber?

So, Steam's on schedule for a midnight launch, yes?

30 mins until Greg Kasavin 12 hour streaming live play of skyrim starts at giant bomb.

Do you have to be a paid member to watch it? If not, I might pop in for awhile. I don't care bout no spoilers.

skeletonframes wrote:

Do you have to be a paid member to watch it? If not, I might pop in for awhile. I don't care bout no spoilers.

Nope. It's free for all. You just have to login to chat and that's for all users also.

I can't get the damn thing to work for me here at work, I just get one still image, so I'm gonna listen to the soundtrack instead.

Any word on console version differences? It seems my XBL info was hacked, and I may not be getting it back for several weeks Trying to figure out if I'm safe to grab the PS3 version or just wait it out. I seem to remember PS3 Fallout 3 being a bit off.