Alternatives to GMail?

Looking for an alternative to GMail. Sometime with mail, address book, calendaring and non-invasive privacy policies. The latest salvo from Google, indexing Facebook comments is the end for me. I need to get myself off of both Facebook and Google for anything except business.

Run your own mail server and use something like Spicebird or Zimbra Desktop...or Outlook.

I'm pretty fond of the upgrades Microsoft has given to Hotmail, but I don't know anything about their privacy policies and the like.

Some guy asked this question a year ago.

*Legion* wrote:
Some guy asked this question a year ago. :D

I have nothing to contribute to the thread, but I just have to say that Clock's avatar is awesome and perfect.

*Legion* wrote:
Some guy asked this question a year ago. :D

I'm aware. I was hoping the landscape changed in the last year. I really don't want to be doing business with Google.

Office 365 is really good... expensive though

Here's a question: from the solutions already presented, why are they not for you?

DSGamer wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Some guy asked this question a year ago. :D

I'm aware. I was hoping the landscape changed in the last year. I really don't want to be doing business with Google.

That's fine. I'm a little confused on how indexing Facebook comments contributes to that, though.

Yahoo's mail privacy states:

[*] Yahoo!'s practice is not to use the content of messages stored in your Yahoo! Mail account for marketing purposes.

... so maybe Yahoo would be more acceptable to you? If I used webmail that wasn't Gmail, it would definitely be Yahoo Mail. You could pay for Yahoo Mail Plus and get rid of all ads and get things like disposable mail addresses.

I wish Google had a Gmail Plus. I would happily pay Google to be their client rather than their product.

*Legion* wrote:

I wish Google had a Gmail Plus. I would happily pay Google to be their client rather than their product.

Pretty much this. I used to host my own Squirrelmail server and was very happy with it. Then my wife and I started sharing calendars that were synced to our iPhones. All my contacts moved to an address book in the cloud. So I'd be happy to pay Google if I could be taken out of their search results.

Scratched wrote:
Here's a question: from the solutions already presented, why are they not for you?

I looked into Zimbra. Very heavily. But the calendar functionality wasn't quite there. And I couldn't share a calendar with my wife, even for reading. So that made it less than optimal. Still looking, though. Now more so.

*Legion* wrote:
DSGamer wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Some guy asked this question a year ago. :D

I'm aware. I was hoping the landscape changed in the last year. I really don't want to be doing business with Google.

That's fine. I'm a little confused on how indexing Facebook comments contributes to that, though.

Yahoo's mail privacy states:

[*] Yahoo!'s practice is not to use the content of messages stored in your Yahoo! Mail account for marketing purposes.

... so maybe Yahoo would be more acceptable to you? If I used webmail that wasn't Gmail, it would definitely be Yahoo Mail. You could pay for Yahoo Mail Plus and get rid of all ads and get things like disposable mail addresses.

I wish Google had a Gmail Plus. I would happily pay Google to be their client rather than their product.

Isn't Google Apps for business pretty much this? You can buy one user account for $50/year.

EriktheRed wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
DSGamer wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Some guy asked this question a year ago. :D

I'm aware. I was hoping the landscape changed in the last year. I really don't want to be doing business with Google.

That's fine. I'm a little confused on how indexing Facebook comments contributes to that, though.

Yahoo's mail privacy states:

[*] Yahoo!'s practice is not to use the content of messages stored in your Yahoo! Mail account for marketing purposes.

... so maybe Yahoo would be more acceptable to you? If I used webmail that wasn't Gmail, it would definitely be Yahoo Mail. You could pay for Yahoo Mail Plus and get rid of all ads and get things like disposable mail addresses.

I wish Google had a Gmail Plus. I would happily pay Google to be their client rather than their product.

Isn't Google Apps for business pretty much this? You can buy one user account for $50/year.

As far as I know you can't buy freedom from their data mining, though.

DSGamer, where are you seeing Facebook integration in Gmail? I am using the "new look" gmail (currently optional), and I don't see anything to do with Facebook. I'm pretty anti-facebook, and wouldn't want anything like that.

edit: i may have misinterpreted your OP. Apparently Google is doing something regarding FB elsewhere, so you're looking to get out of all things google?

DSGamer wrote:
EriktheRed wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
DSGamer wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
Some guy asked this question a year ago. :D

I'm aware. I was hoping the landscape changed in the last year. I really don't want to be doing business with Google.

That's fine. I'm a little confused on how indexing Facebook comments contributes to that, though.

Yahoo's mail privacy states:

[*] Yahoo!'s practice is not to use the content of messages stored in your Yahoo! Mail account for marketing purposes.

... so maybe Yahoo would be more acceptable to you? If I used webmail that wasn't Gmail, it would definitely be Yahoo Mail. You could pay for Yahoo Mail Plus and get rid of all ads and get things like disposable mail addresses.

I wish Google had a Gmail Plus. I would happily pay Google to be their client rather than their product.

Isn't Google Apps for business pretty much this? You can buy one user account for $50/year.

As far as I know you can't buy freedom from their data mining, though.

I honestly don't know about their data mining practices on paid Apps accounts. And I don't know what exactly qualifies as "data mining" to you. I do know Apps is ad-free. Anyway, some of your questions may be addressed in this FAQ.

It seems this thread died just as fast as the last one - same day as original post.

*Legion* wrote:
It seems this thread died just as fast as the last one - same day as original post. :)

Yeah. I was thinking about that the other day, actually. I looked at some of the alternatives given, but the biggest stumbling block is that my wife is on GMail and we share calendars. She traveled over 100 days this year, so sharing calendars is really vital.