WoW 5.0 - Mists of Pandaria

Reaper81 wrote:

I am not sure how I feel about them directly tying faction grinding to extra LFR loot. On the one hand, it allows you to tie solo play directly to raid progression (both in terms of encouraging LFR training wheels and ilvl increases) but on the other, it just seems so damn lazy and contrived.

Ehh. It's a token that will give you an 'extra' roll, just for you. It doesn't effect the loot rolls of other folks, right, so it's not taking anything away from other players. It rewards participation in all the capture mechanics they have in place. That seems like fair design to me.

Bear wrote:
merphle wrote:

Wow. That sounds like a crapload of tasty content -- even if the nine heroics are just remixes of existing lower-level dungeons (Strat & Scarlet? Oh yeah!). Honestly, I'm kinda digging everything they've shown so far about MoP. Except Pokemon and Farmville. That's just silly.

They've already re-done Strat once, I can't imagine they'd go back to that well again. Then again, who knows.

Molten Core 2.0!

Sorry, my bad -- I meant Scholo (listed specifically in the MoP preview pages).

Actually, what other lower-level instances are there remaining that haven't been remixed into Heroic modes already? Scholomance and Scarlet Monastary, obviously... but also Gnomeregan, Uldaman, Maraudon, Dire Maul, BRD, LBRS, UBRS, Molten Core, and Blackwing's Lair? There's a few others, but I think they're less likely candidates given their size.

Sounds like they have a crazy amount of endgame stuff planned. They're borrowing liberally from RIFT, GW2, and ToR for some of their concepts, and it sounds great.

merphle wrote:

Actually, what other lower-level instances are there remaining that haven't been remixed into Heroic modes already? Scholomance and Scarlet Monastary, obviously... but also Gnomeregan, Uldaman, Maraudon, Dire Maul, BRD, LBRS, UBRS, Molten Core, and Blackwing's Lair? There's a few others, but I think they're less likely candidates given their size.

There's also Razorfen Kraul and Razorfen Downs, if they ever decide to do some kind of massive quilboar invasion for reasons unknown.

I'm pretty sure I'm coming back pretty soon...Who's up for more firelands runs?

NSMike wrote:

I am very happy that they seem to be doing everything they possibly can NOT to entice me back to the game. I'm no purist, or elitist, or hardcore raider. I just see them saying, "The concepts that we introduced to the game with Wrath? Yeah, we're making more of that, except in new locations and such. Oh, and we added a few things that TOR did right."

My thoughts exactly. The more time goes on, the more repetition in design I see with MMOs. Not encouraging for the future.

Heretk wrote:
NSMike wrote:

I am very happy that they seem to be doing everything they possibly can NOT to entice me back to the game. I'm no purist, or elitist, or hardcore raider. I just see them saying, "The concepts that we introduced to the game with Wrath? Yeah, we're making more of that, except in new locations and such. Oh, and we added a few things that TOR did right."

My thoughts exactly. The more time goes on, the more repetition in design I see with every genre of every entertainment medium. Not encouraging for the future.

FTFY.

WoWCrendor is either trolling me, or the best update of all time is coming with the the new xpac:

Grinds HAS to come back so I can ride him everywhere.

Not a troll, seemingly -- all the other major news sites are reporting the same thing.

Very cool indeed.

It's for real. It's not mount speed though, it's a minor glyph for travel form, makes it a mountable stag vs the cheetah.

As WoW enters it's 8th year..(crazy!) its interesting to note that this is the 4th expansion... by its 8th year Everquest had launched 14! expansions.

TheGameguru wrote:

As WoW enters it's 8th year..(crazy!) its interesting to note that this is the 4th expansion... by its 8th year Everquest had launched 14! expansions.

WoW does/did have a reputation for large content patches for most 0.x step. I'm sure with different management some of those could have been bundled up for expansions.

From Blizz:

Glyph of Stars Transforms your Moonkin Form into Astral Form. This glyph essentially makes your character appear as a spirit instead of a moonkin. You look very nearly like you do while dead -- but people can see you this time ... and your armor, for that matter.

Glyph of the Orca Transforms your Aquatic Form into an orca. This one is pretty straightforward. Remember those orcas in Northrend? Yeah. Much better than your weird, snarling, rubbery seal.

Glyph of the Chameleon Gives you a random appearance when you shift into Bear or Cat Form.
Essentially, this one gives you a random coloring every time you shift. Great for breaking up the monotony of locked-in bear/cat coloring.

Glyph of the Stag Transforms your Travel Form into a stag that other players can mount. Yes, that's right. Your pals can ride you while you're in Travel Form, and you're also a stag instead of the clearly inferior cheetah.

Glyph of the Tree Lets you transform into Treant Form.

Why don't they just make the travel form a damn moose? Then Ghostcrawler can give us our damn moose mount he promised, and I can ride Grinds everywhere.

Sounds like a sure bet that this expansion will come out this Summer or early Autumn.

I'm pretty sure my new lvl 80 that I get for the resurrection will be a druid. I'm pretty pumped.

Not sure I like the pvp only nature of the pet battle system. It seems like an easy cop out. Pokemon didn't become a behemoth because of its glorious pvp. And I think it would be more fitting to a quest based mmoRPG to include the pve quest gameplay of it's RPG counterpart.

fangblackbone wrote:

Pokemon didn't become a behemoth because of its glorious pvp..

It didnt?

fangblackbone wrote:

Not sure I like the pvp only nature of the pet battle system. It seems like an easy cop out. Pokemon didn't become a behemoth because of its glorious pvp. And I think it would be more fitting to a quest based mmoRPG to include the pve quest gameplay of it's RPG counterpart.

It's only 'pvp' in the very loosest sense. From the Monday MoP infodump:

- There will also be random critters and NPCs out in the world you can fight to level up your pets. As well as a queuing system to queue and fight other players.
- PvP pet battles are going to be a fun and causal. They do not want losing to feel like a big deal because that's really what drives a lot of people out of it. They will only track the number of wins and not the number of loses. You will also not see the other players name, and the players can not talk to one another. It should feel like your playing against another NPC (that just happens to be very smart).

It's *exactly* like pokemon. You fight PvE battles to level up your critters, and the PvP is about as un-in-your-face as any kind of 'vs' mode can be.

I for one am really looking forward to trying this out.

MMO Champ has the goods: armor sets from the challenge mode dungeons.

Challenge Mode - Armor Reward Models Preview
The Dungeon Challenge Mode/Timed Runs introduced in Mists of Pandaria will reward players with new cosmetic armor sets for completing dungeons really fast!

Mists of Pandaria finally introduces real models for belts! Those new belt buckles make some of the sets look amazing and you can see some of them on the sets below.
A lot of those sets are WORK IN PROGRESS, really. Some of them don't even have their belt buckle yet and I had to fight with bugs for a lot of them. They're early beta versions.
If your class isn't listed, it means the set isn't in the game files yet, sorry.

Some of those sets look definitely amazing and this is definitely what you want to wear in Stormwind and Orgrimmar if you want to scream to the ladies and to the world "I get it done under a minute!".

For once, all the sets in a given 'tier' (though this is not tier gear) look kinda badass. No toilet shoulders here!

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And uhh, Reap? Check out the Rogue. I think you will be well pleased.

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Shammies have actually gained the ability to fly, so the blizz put rockets on our shoulders to keep us on the ground. Tragic, really.

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Um, also blah.

Wow, those are f*cking hideous.

The rogue gear is bad ass.

The hunter gear is decent, as is the paladin stuff. And that's a fun pope hat for the priests.

But yes, that shaman stuff, uhm, might need a bit more iteration.

IT IS SO POINTY!

Oh c'mon Oily! You guys have gotten awesome animal skulls and freaking volcano armor in the past. Rocket Shoulders are still > than Toilet Shoulders.

Now, I don't want you to get the wrong impression of me, so I'd like to make this perfectly clear:

I am in favor of chaining rockets to one's shoulders. Hell, if there were a "let's chain rockets to our shoulders and try to fly around and hope we don't explode" kickstarter, I'd sponsor that. No doubt about it.

However, when one engages in such activities, I feel that it would only make sense to use BASIC physics and have those rockets pointed in a direction that doesn't make it harder to walk or at least in a direction that doesn't skew the results of your average bathroom scale. We won't be wearing shirts or shoes at 90, so maybe we should minimize the trauma to our self-image as best we can?

At least it doesn't matter any more with the addition of armor transmogrification.

Those things on the shammie shoulders aren't rockets. They're fondue pots.

ZaneRockfist wrote:

At least it doesn't matter any more with the addition of armor transmogrification.

Except remember these are the things that Blizzard put in as "the coolest armor set ever that you'll want to earn so you can transmogrify to it". It wasn't even clear to me that these armor sets have any stats at all, they're designed to be transmog'd to.

Edit: Oh, and yeah, the shaman one stinks. (IMO)

The paladin set gives me a bit of Hellgate: London vibe.