WoW 5.0 - Mists of Pandaria

maxox wrote:
zeroKFE wrote:

Also, don't forget that if you choose to stick around for the next expansion you basically get Diablo 3 for free.

Take that, Old Republic!

It's $14.99 a month for 12 months. If you normally pay that and have never quit then you are getting D3 (basically) for free. If you normally buy two 6 month subs then you are paying $25 for D3.

Wait, what? Where can I find out more about this?

Ghostcrawler wrote:

Hey ELewis, I heard you like Pokemon, so I stuffed a mini Pokemon-esque game into WoW for you.

*Throws panties at Mr. Street*

Rallick wrote:
maxox wrote:
zeroKFE wrote:

Also, don't forget that if you choose to stick around for the next expansion you basically get Diablo 3 for free.

Take that, Old Republic!

It's $14.99 a month for 12 months. If you normally pay that and have never quit then you are getting D3 (basically) for free. If you normally buy two 6 month subs then you are paying $25 for D3.

Wait, what? Where can I find out more about this?

http://us.media.blizzard.com/wow/pro...

So, let me get this straight? I can be a melee healer that wears leather, wields swords and such and uses energy as a resource?

Oh, and I get Diablo III for 'free?'

You sons of bitches.

SONS.

OF.

BITCHES.

EDIT:

Think about this another way:

You know how I whinge on about armor penetration? Imagine how I will feel about healer resource regen in a MELEE raid environment.

Vanity pet battle system?!

Son of a bitch...

Farscry wrote:

Vanity pet battle system?!

Son of a bitch...

I know, right?

Suddenly, my starry-eyed dream of using my strand crawler in battle under the sobriquet, 'Citizen Snips,' is no longer so far-fetched.

I guess it's thinking ahead a bit, but with no major villain, I wonder what they're going to work towards with 5.1, 5.2, etc.

Sylvanas' sudden, but inevitable betrayal.

Reaper81 wrote:

Sylvanas' sudden, but inevitable betrayal.

Curse it!

Holy cow! (er panda)
I am hooked for sure.
The pet battles will be countless hours of fun.
Hunter's melee weapons = gone = mind asplode! (no minimum firing range)
Other classes ranged weapons = gone; wands become main hand weapons
rogues and warriors can throw their main hand weapons
warlocks new resource system (they'd better take a lesson from WAR's OP brightwizards)
pve scenarios (PQ's or rifts much?)
pve battlegrounds... hawesome!

*keels over from exasperation*

I am ambivalent about most of this stuff so far. I'm not really a fan of giant pandas running around everywhere, and on both factions so there will be no escaping them. Maybe if the females are as fat as the males that might redeem them somewhat, but I know Blizzard doesn't have the balls to do that, they will end up svelte furry pinups. Meh.

Not a mention of the dance studio.

Scratched wrote:

Not a mention of the dance studio.

Or the goddamn moose!

Seems they've stripped all ridiculousness:
'Druids: They always felt like they had 4 specs, so now they do' ??
'Hunter: Hunter minimum range is gone!' WTH is ZeroKFE going to complain about now?!
'Wands become main hand weapons' LOLWUT
'Buff totems are gone. It just wasn't very interesting to be the buff bitch of the group.' I loved my Buff Bitches
'Spells will be automatically learned, you won't have to go to your trainer anymore.' L2Hearth, noobs!
'Talent trees should be fun, and you should have more choice than just a cookie cutter build.' This will probably never work. There will always be a 'best' build.

I caved and did the pass. I'm already paying for WoW anyway, so now I get Diablo 3 for free (but since I plan on getting the DIII collector's edition, I basically get 4/12 months for free when it hits.)

Monks DO NOT USE SWORDS.

I am disappointed.

I really wish they would do what GW2 is doing. Make a set of weapon combos that are tied to what weapon you equip. You can then flavor them with elemental effects based on the class equipping them.

And then you can also have class specific weapon independent skills.

That is how you get rid of cookie cutter builds.

Looks like Scholomance and Scarlet Monastery are getting the Deadmines/SFK treatment -- i.e., upgraded to lvl 90.

Also: "We are currently not planning to have 90 normal dungeons in MoP."

And: Multiple references to "valor points." I think this is the first time Blizzard hasn't changed the name of the PvE currency since ... ever? Trying to recall.

Also: "Make encounters understandable and do not set up groups to fail."
... That would involve making a game played by well-programmed bots and not actual human beings.

'Hunter: Hunter minimum range is gone!' WTH is ZeroKFE going to complain about now?!

I want confirmation of "Stampede" as a level 90 ability, damnit!

The new talents system looks excellent, at least for hunters. Looks like they may just finally have a model that will achieve their desired result. Sure, there may still be a "best spec" for specific fights and there are still some talents that are far more suited for PvP than PvE (and vice versa), but the choices are for the most part just that -- genuine choices that you will make based on your desired playstyle where very rarely will there only be one right answer.

OMG I at first thought this was some necro'ed post from April Fool's. All I can say is ... WOW. Couldn't you just come up with an Eastern culture similar to the Khitai in Age of Conan or the Canthans in Guild Wars rather than going with pandas? Or at the very list come up with some cool tiger race?

At any rate, it looks like The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 will be stepping over WOW's corpse after all. But only because Blizzard put a gun to WOW's head and pulled the trigger.

Or maybe this will sell a zillion copies in East Asia and I'll be proven wrong.

jdzappa wrote:

At any rate, it looks like The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 will be stepping over WOW's corpse after all. But only because Blizzard put a gun to WOW's head and pulled the trigger.

Too many people saying this about each of those games. Dont see it happening.

While i'm interested in the new monk class, and with the way they bundled this with Diablo3... They're getting my money anyway. I may not play it that much, but dont think they care at that point.

zeroKFE wrote:

The new talents system looks excellent ...

Blizzard promised to compress the talent trees in Cata, and they didn't really do that. They looked pretty much like the old ones -- just not as many levels.

I'm still trying to get my head around this one. If you can swap talents on the fly like you can with glyphs, I see a move away from a cookie-cutter build and toward something where you have to have a particular talent(s) active for specific fights.

As long as EJ exists, there will always be a Right Way To Do Things.

Also: Is this the first time that the number of items carried has changed? Because it looks like Blizzard is doing away with two slots.

jdzappa wrote:

At any rate, it looks like The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 will be stepping over WOW's corpse after all. But only because Blizzard put a gun to WOW's head and pulled the trigger.

You're either high as a kite, or you have not read anything on the release. This is what the player-base wants. No question.

This expansion has a lot of Po-tential.

When this comes out I'm going to make a monk, go back to the old raids, and punch Deathwing in the FACE. And Arthas and Illidan, too, while I'm at it.

Even if I honestly haven't decided how I feel about this expansion yet. I felt the same way about Cataclysm and that one turned out okay, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt.

Well, since I've decided against getting TOR... annual pass get.
Seems like I will be playing D3 after all.

jdzappa wrote:
ranalin wrote:
jdzappa wrote:

At any rate, it looks like The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 will be stepping over WOW's corpse after all. But only because Blizzard put a gun to WOW's head and pulled the trigger.

Too many people saying this about each of those games. Dont see it happening.

While i'm interested in the new monk class, and with the way they bundled this with Diablo3... They're getting my money anyway. I may not play it that much, but dont think they care at that point.

I'm joking of course. But WOW has lost a million subscribers in the past few months, and I don't see how a Kung Fu Panda-themed expansion is going to stop the slide. Games like Warhammer Online are still limping along, so I have no doubt that WOW will keep the lights on. I'm just talking about WOW's dominance of the MMO space coming to an end in the next couple years.

I agree with you Ranalin that the monk class in Diablo 3 looks awesome.

It does, but i was talking about the upcoming monk class in WoW So ya the Panda is going to get them back a few subscribers. Hell every one of the expansions does. Then they fade away again for other things.

ranalin wrote:
jdzappa wrote:
ranalin wrote:
jdzappa wrote:

At any rate, it looks like The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 will be stepping over WOW's corpse after all. But only because Blizzard put a gun to WOW's head and pulled the trigger.

Too many people saying this about each of those games. Dont see it happening.

While i'm interested in the new monk class, and with the way they bundled this with Diablo3... They're getting my money anyway. I may not play it that much, but dont think they care at that point.

I'm joking of course. But WOW has lost a million subscribers in the past few months, and I don't see how a Kung Fu Panda-themed expansion is going to stop the slide. Games like Warhammer Online are still limping along, so I have no doubt that WOW will keep the lights on. I'm just talking about WOW's dominance of the MMO space coming to an end in the next couple years.

I agree with you Ranalin that the monk class in Diablo 3 looks awesome.

It does, but i was talking about the upcoming monk class in WoW So ya the Panda is going to get them back a few subscribers. Hell every one of the expansions does. Then they fade away again for other things.

I re-read my post and realized I'm being stereotypical disgruntled former WOW player. I shouldn't rain on anyone's parade, and if the rest of the features look like fun for the hardcore fans then God bless ya. The new race and expansion area just looks so juvenile to me. Then again, I have a 2-year-old so endless Disney/Pixar re-runs could be influencing me.

ranalin wrote:
jdzappa wrote:

At any rate, it looks like The Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 will be stepping over WOW's corpse after all. But only because Blizzard put a gun to WOW's head and pulled the trigger.

Too many people saying this about each of those games. Dont see it happening.

While i'm interested in the new monk class, and with the way they bundled this with Diablo3... They're getting my money anyway. I may not play it that much, but dont think they care at that point.

I'm joking of course. But WOW has lost a million subscribers in the past few months, and I don't see how a Kung Fu Panda-themed expansion is going to stop the slide. Games like Warhammer Online are still limping along, so I have no doubt that WOW will keep the lights on. I'm just talking about WOW's dominance of the MMO space coming to an end in the next few years.

I agree with you Ranalin that the monk class in Diablo 3 looks awesome.

jdzappa wrote:

I don't see how a Kung Fu Panda-themed expansion is going to stop the slide.

You do realize that the Pandaren were first introduced way back in Warcraft 3, right?