[trailer] Avengers! My day is made

ccesarano wrote:

It depends on the cameo. The first cameos in X-Men and Spider-man were pretty well hidden, rather blink-and-you'll-miss-em, but some of them like Iron Man and Incredible Hulk are pretty obvious. I actually missed his cameo in Thor the first time (or rather, didn't realize it was him).

Yeah, I wish they were all a bit more like, say, Hitchcock's cameos and stayed subtle. I actually do find them entertaining in and of themselves, but they're still really jarring to me, particularly the ones where he's got dialog. It's pretty bad to disrupt something requiring a pretty big suspension of disbelief. Sure, it's a super hero movie and I know it's unrealistic, but that breaking-the-fourth-wall wink-wink crap breaks up pacing like nobody's business. It's about up there with all the "Hey gang, it's Dick Miller!" scenes we had in every other movie in the eighties and nineties, except this is supposed to be a lot more clever because dude has ties to the creation of the characters. Two Marvel movies into things, I started bracing for when the bad Stan Lee gag would appear so the rest of the movie could happen.

That's why it was nice in one of the Hulk movies I think where he was a security guard and popped up in the first few minutes, and then it was out of the way and on with the movie.

Probably the best one though is in the first? Spider-Man where he grabs a kid and throws him away from some falling rubble. No lines, a quick hit during an action scene that you miss if you're not paying attention, and could just pass off as an extra. That's the perfect sort of cameo.

Stele wrote:

That's why it was nice in one of the Hulk movies I think where he was a security guard and popped up in the first few minutes, and then it was out of the way and on with the movie.

And how!

Probably the best one in the first? Spider-Man where he grabs a kid and throws him away from some falling rubble. No lines, a quick hit during an action scene that you miss if you're not paying attention, and could just pass off as an extra. That's the perfect sort of cameo.

It also helped that Macy Gray and her goblinesque vocal stylings were far worse than anything Stan Lee could have done at that point in the film.

ianunderhill wrote:
Stele wrote:

That's why it was nice in one of the Hulk movies I think where he was a security guard and popped up in the first few minutes, and then it was out of the way and on with the movie.

And how!

Probably the best one in the first? Spider-Man where he grabs a kid and throws him away from some falling rubble. No lines, a quick hit during an action scene that you miss if you're not paying attention, and could just pass off as an extra. That's the perfect sort of cameo.

It also helped that Macy Gray and her goblinesque vocal stylings were far worse than anything Stan Lee could have done at that point in the film. ;)

Lucy Lawless and Jim Norton were the best cameos in Spiderman.

Peter Jackson does the best cameos, they're so fast it's blink and you'll miss them. It's like Where's Wally! Or Waldo if you're American, because the name Wally was banned in America or something!

Plus as a larger, bearded man, he fit it rather well with the rest of the people in Middle Earth. I think he played a biker in The Frighteners, which also worked well.

My favorite Peter Jackson cameo isn't even in a Peter Jackson movie. It's in Hot Fuzz.

Peter Jackson cameo as a corsair in Return of the King

[cameo]
*Takes an arrow to the chest*
AAAARRRGGH!!!
[/cameo]

Thin_J wrote:

My favorite Peter Jackson cameo isn't even in a Peter Jackson movie. It's in Hot Fuzz.

Wha? I've never noticed it. I'ma have to look it up now.

ccesarano wrote:
Thin_J wrote:

My favorite Peter Jackson cameo isn't even in a Peter Jackson movie. It's in Hot Fuzz.

Wha? I've never noticed it. I'ma have to look it up now.

Seriously. Where is he in the movie?

Edit: Sure enough: Recognize those eyes?

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It's great isn't it?

I never caught it myself but they point it out in the commentary track

I just rewatched it. I think what's great about The Avengers is that unlike so many movies that start great but fizzle out in the third act, it knows how to finish. In fact, it's the inverse of that pattern: the beginnning is kind of weak, but then it builds and builds on everything that's gone before, and by the the time Tony Stark's calling Pepper, I've got a lump in my throat, despite it being the second time around, and the trailers spoiling things on the first time around.

Spoiler:

Seriously, that Hulk-catches-Iron-Man money shot has is all kinds of egregious. Usually, I'm not particular about spoilers, but that's such a HUGE payoff to give away in the advertising.

The worst Stan Lee cameo by far was, unsurprisingly, in the second Fantastic Four movie. He's walking into the wedding, and gets stopped and asked his name. "I'm Stan Lee!" Then the security guard says "Nice try" and kicks him out.

So not only does he essentially walk on screen, wave, and say "I'm Stan Lee!", but in the universe of this movie, Stan Lee is actually famous. For creating the characters in the world he's in. Oy.

Hey I finally saw this today. After Thor and Captain America showed up on Amazon Prime free and the wife and I watched them this week, she demanded we go see Avengers today.

Anyway, very well done all around. Glad I saw Thor and Cap first though, as there were plenty of references to them and characters brought back.

Also now I can read all the white space in this thread.

And make some of my own... question about the credits scene:

Spoiler:

Who the hell was that purple guy?

Stele wrote:

Hey I finally saw this today. After Thor and Captain America showed up on Amazon Prime free and the wife and I watched them this week, she demanded we go see Avengers today.

Anyway, very well done all around. Glad I saw Thor and Cap first though, as there were plenty of references to them and characters brought back.

Also now I can read all the white space in this thread.

And make some of my own... question about the credits scene:

Spoiler:

Who the hell was that purple guy?

It's covered in the white spaces you're able to read now, but

Spoiler:

he's Thanos.

Stele wrote:

After Thor and Captain America showed up on Amazon Prime free and the wife and I watched them this week, she demanded we go see Avengers today.

Yeah, for some inexplicable reason my wife liked those 2 movies as well. After ignoring my old comics all this time, I guess she suddenly took an interest in mythology and World War II!

Running Man wrote:
Stele wrote:

After Thor and Captain America showed up on Amazon Prime free and the wife and I watched them this week, she demanded we go see Avengers today.

Yeah, for some inexplicable reason my wife liked those 2 movies as well. After ignoring my old comics all this time, I guess she suddenly took an interest in mythology and World War II!

;)

I'm sure the actors they got to be Thor and the Cap have nothing to do with their sudden interest.

Stengah wrote:
Stele wrote:

And make some of my own... question about the credits scene:

Spoiler:

Who the hell was that purple guy?

It's covered in the white spaces you're able to read now, but

Spoiler:

he's Thanos.

That helped a little. And I saw some mentions in the thread. But honestly I'd never heard of him before.

I guess we can't have Galactus, Dr Doom, Apocalypse, or any other of the really evil big enemies from F4, X-Men, Spider-Man, etc, as was discussed earlier in this thread, due to the licensing.

It really would have been nice for Spidey to have a quick cameo with all that fighting going on in NYC. Or at least see the Bugle building. Same with X-Men or F4. I mean come on, this is such a huge event, at least having them around protecting citizens on the ground would have been realistic in the Marvel universe. If it was going to take the National Guard an hour to mobilize, those other mutants and heroes would have been there first.

Ah well, just a tiny thing. But it certainly would have been cool.

In honor of it being released today

Honest Trailers: The Avengers.

"...which doesn't matter because this shot is awesome!"

I'll try and find the links when i get home, but there's talk about doing the World War Hulk series as a movie.

Just got to watch the film on BluRay, with my younger son who hadn't seen it in theaters. He loves it.

Funny bit was when we got to THAT point in the film. He looked shocked, then looked over at me and said, "Holy sh*t! He's been Whedon-ed!"

momgamer wrote:

Just got to watch the film on BluRay, with my younger son who hadn't seen it in theaters. He loves it.

Funny bit was when we got to THAT point in the film. He looked shocked, then looked over at me and said, "Holy sh*t! He's been Whedon-ed!"

If you listen to the commentary... it wasn't even Whendon's idea. Coulson dying was all Kevin Feige's idea, and apparently Clark Gregg agreed.

Watch the deleted scenes. They're obviously cherry picked from everything they cut, but it's pretty amazing that Whedon was willing to completely cut those scenes, because every one that they included has some pretty heavy character growth or framing in them.

Sooooooo, I watched this today and found it to be rather mediocre for my tastes. The action was good and all, but the plot was all over the place and I kept losing my suspension of disbelief. Frankly, my favorite part was knowing who they'll have to face in the next film.

To be fair, this IS about comic books, so it's not like the source material is exactly high fidelity.

Yeah, but I was having more issues with this film than the others.

Well, you either bought it or you didn't, and there's no argument I can make that will change what happened when you watched it.

I don't remember being jarred out of the movie by anything, but I had plenty of nitpicks after I'd had time to think about it.

We just watched it again tonight at home.

Still really liked it, but I did have to say, after Loki and Thor's convo and the battle that ensued, I thought "really, Loki wouldn't have run away after all that time?" Yes, he wanted to get captured... but that should have raised more eyebrows. First time around I didn't notice it.

Citizen86 wrote:

We just watched it again tonight at home.

Still really liked it, but I did have to say, after Loki and Thor's convo and the battle that ensued, I thought "really, Loki wouldn't have run away after all that time?" Yes, he wanted to get captured... but that should have raised more eyebrows. First time around I didn't notice it.

I did. During the movie I was wondering if he figured that he'd only be able to get like half a mile before Thor won the fight and he'd be able to track him down again anyways.

Here's the thing, though-- we get it, because we're familiar with the characters. A major portion of the audience is not familiar, though. I'd imagine, had Loki tried to escape at any given time, people wouldn't believe he really planned his capture the whole time, as on the surface, his behavior didn't speak to such a plan.