How's work been?

Good luck have fun, Rainsmercy!

Work has been really tough.

Got a job offer from a competitor (where my old boss ended up) and I accepted.

Feeling a mixture of relief and excitement to get to the new place!

Congrats Top_Shelf! Go enjoy something from the... well... you know.

Congrats.

I've finally had a couple interviews from my search that began in early Feb. One was even a contact from the very first week that took 6 weeks to reply to my application.

Maybe something finally happens the next couple weeks. Last severance payment is on the 15th.

Hahaha!

Per your avatar, we are going to Happiest Place on Earth with kiddos this week right now.

Ugh. My boss has been weird since he misinterpreted the results of an external evaluation of mine. We are now “re-organizing” me into an as yet undetermined position.

Yes, I’m looking. (Was planning on starting slightly later in the year; maybe it’s a good thing to get a head start? :grimace: )

This seems as good a place as any for this anecdote:

The solitude of the night shift affords me my choice of music playlist, so I put up Lena Raine radio via Spotify. It's mostly her assorted works, plus other similar video game OST works.

Cut to me feeling a familiar sense of dread as I realize a certain song has worked into the rotation:

Context (very mild/early Outer Wilds spoiler):

Spoiler:

This song, "End Times", fittingly plays at the end of every 23 minute loop as a supernova engulfs your solar system &, by extension, you.

Nice, I have been looking for interesting music to put on at work.

So my boss got fired yesterday.

For reference, he was incompetent and a dictator who dismantled one department (every employee in it resigned) and almost dismantled two more (75% resigned or were let go) and was trying to run me off because I am a data analyst and data doesn't work in his favor.

This is perhaps the best thing to happen at this company since I have been here.

I will also include a line in the generic employee separation email because I was used to it (because we get 2-3 a week) but my wife thought was weird and hilarious.

My company wrote:

Separated Employees are prohibited from visiting [my company] sites after separation unless it is to the Central Office for an HR matter. Employees entertaining separated employees may be subject to disciplinary action.

A blow struck for sanity! Huzzah!

That email is weird.

I am assuming I will be in trouble at work in July when it turns out I can't double my work productivity for my job and also be three other people.

This is perhaps the best thing to happen at this company since I have been here.

Unicorns ARE real!?

muraii wrote:

That email is weird.

That is weird. Do they mean "entertaining them" to mean doing so on company property, or that you'd be disciplined for inviting them over to your house for, say, a dinner party.

fangblackbone wrote:
This is perhaps the best thing to happen at this company since I have been here.

Unicorns ARE real!?

Only today.

Stengah wrote:
muraii wrote:

That email is weird.

That is weird. Do they mean "entertaining them" to mean doing so on company property, or that you'd be disciplined for inviting them over to your house for, say, a dinner party.

Well, just to be safe I am not inviting that asshole over to my house.

I assumed company property. They can't stop you privately associating, that's a biiig lawsuit.

I know at work for a long time that there is a blocker for hiring me full time. (I've been a contractor since Aug 22)
It still doesn't prevent me from doing and handling incredible things well outside my Service Desk. Fighting fires, project managing, promoting, being a mechanic (swapping a battery from one Dell laptop to another), diplomacy, and translating/greasing wheels to keep big events and projects moving forward.

Any one of these dozen things should have netted me being hired full time. But I've had to resort to knowing that I am making an impact is its own reward. And mind you, all of my efforts are acknowledged. It just loses its luster quickly when offhand comments and lack of participation in rare department rewards make me feel second class.

My boss and his boss are initiating upskilling. Can I participate? No. We had a week long offsite for the entire (US, EMEA, and India) team 20 minutes from the office I work at. Could I attend? No. Any of it? No. Could I go to the dinner(s)? No. Could I stop by after dinner to meet with people I've only seen on conference calls? No. Did I get a team hat they passed out to everyone? No.

And then there is the opposite. During lunch I got a call from my boss that went to voicemail. It turns out someone couldn't figure out to plug in the printer cable in order to print. (the C level for IT) When I got back to my desk I was received with a "you need to answer your phone" directive.

At this point, my influence in the daily workings of my office and department is significant. I almost walked out but opted to keep my trap shut. I will tell you that despite really liking my boss and team, I will instead opt to give next to zero notice once I find another job. This is not me at all. But I have been used and maltreated, albeit nicely and with platitudes.

Someone is going to appreciate my efforts a hell of a lot more...

Did you try staying completely inside the lane you are paid for? "You want more milk, buy the damn cow, you've had enough freebies to show you how good it is."

Yeah really sounds like they are having their cake and eating it too. If they want to keep you as a contractor, then they need to treat you as a contractor and not just for the negative stuff. Up to you how much you want to stand up for your rights. Sounds sucky, sorry you are having to go through it. People will treat you how you let yourself be treated...

Fang is it possible your company is misclassifying you as an independent contractor?

Some useful info about this: https://www.score.org/resource/artic...

LeapingGnome wrote:

Yeah really sounds like they are having their cake and eating it too. If they want to keep you as a contractor, then they need to treat you as a contractor and not just for the negative stuff. Up to you how much you want to stand up for your rights. Sounds sucky, sorry you are having to go through it. People will treat you how you let yourself be treated...

Most people, let alone companies, have no clue about how to do vendor management. They just view contractors as "people who do stuff here" and then get all specific around rewards/extra stuff time because they got an email from Legal or worry about what HR would say. Most people aren't good captains/leaders or know how to make effective, consistent differentiation.

And it is VERY difficult to be the vendor who says, "That's not in the Statement of Work" unless you are dealing with a very mature company that knows the importance of vendor management, has trained managers on how to do it well, and holds them accountable for it. And even then, you as a vendor run the risk of alienating the most important person to your livelihood, who may or may not have paid attention in class or understand the value of a contractor that stands up for themselves.

No. I am working through an agency, Robert Half.

Appreciate the feedback. Its reinforced that I have to leave. I physically can't just stay in my lane. I'm not wired that way, and the turbulent nature of the covid workplace makes it hard to specify what is my lane. Granted, it is something a lot more narrow than what I am doing

I don't know how it is in other states but IT contracting in California is, when they ask you to do something you have to do it, no matter how crazy. And if you make a mistake, your contract will likely be ended if you don't have enough time to state your case or fix it before you leave for the day.

Some of my biggest strengths are adaptability and "figure it out" + "see it through to completion".
Most take advantage of it. I'm used to it but not to this extent. Oh and mind you. It benefits them to keep me as a contractor since if I don't work, I don't get paid. So they get as much holiday coverage as I can muster.

Whole department has been offered relocation back to Houston or severance. Since the company moved me from Houston over a decade ago, I'm not keen on going back. I have until the 15th to make up my mind and first week of September to report in new office or end work. I've just about made up my mind to leave, but it's been quite a while with this company (almost 18 years), but the whole way they handled the announcement, and the messaging afterwards has made it pretty clear how much we're valued.

fangblackbone wrote:

No. I am working through an agency, Robert Half.

Appreciate the feedback. Its reinforced that I have to leave. I physically can't just stay in my lane. I'm not wired that way, and the turbulent nature of the covid workplace makes it hard to specify what is my lane. Granted, it is something a lot more narrow than what I am doing

I don't know how it is in other states but IT contracting in California is, when they ask you to do something you have to do it, no matter how crazy. And if you make a mistake, your contract will likely be ended if you don't have enough time to state your case or fix it before you leave for the day.

Some of my biggest strengths are adaptability and "figure it out" + "see it through to completion".
Most take advantage of it. I'm used to it but not to this extent. Oh and mind you. It benefits them to keep me as a contractor since if I don't work, I don't get paid. So they get as much holiday coverage as I can muster.

Lots to unpack here.

You should be 100% getting backed up by your engagement manager on the Robert Half side. That person should be checking in with you to see how well the client is treating you, if they're following the contract, etc. It's their job to handle.

What you refer to as "get it done" is totally awesome when in-house and also valueable as a contractor. It's super ultra EX+ Alpha Dark Souls difficult when a contractor. Especially in IT. Especially in CA. Especially if you're working for an IT firm in CA.

They know you (and probably your firm) are replaceable.

Hemidal wrote:

Whole department has been offered relocation back to Houston or severance. Since the company moved me from Houston over a decade ago, I'm not keen on going back. I have until the 15th to make up my mind and first week of September to report in new office or end work. I've just about made up my mind to leave, but it's been quite a while with this company (almost 18 years), but the whole way they handled the announcement, and the messaging afterwards has made it pretty clear how much we're valued.

If it's been 18 years that's a healthy severance, yes?

@Hemidal - I am trying to get a grasp on what you situation is.
It sounds to me like you could say "yes I'll relocate" and then not move an inch till September.
At which point they will end your employment and give you severance? I am guessing there is another option where they will realize your value and continue your current arrangement even if you refuse to move in September.

It seems like waiting it out is a win/win no matter how you slice it.

I have to give an answer by 4/15. If I take any money for relo, I’m on the hook for two more years or I have to pay it all back. I’m not looking to move my family or sell my home, so I’d be living in an apartment during the week and going home on weekends.

They’ve made it clear there’s no remaining in San Antonio for work.

Yes, severance is 2 weeks per year of service.

I’m not looking to move my family or sell my home, so I’d be living in an apartment during the week and going home on weekends.

That sounds like the premise for most of the cheating/revenge stories invading my youtube feed lately ;P

36 weeks is a lot. Just know that experienced professionals are commonly taking 1-2 years to find new work.

Also I am guessing that 36 weeks is a hell of a lot more than they are willing to cough up for relocation.
Is the commute from your home to Houston and back on weekends even viable? Is there a train or something so you don't have to sit in traffic?

So I'm just past my first 90 days at this job. Week before last I was just about as stressed out as I could be. Things were piling up, I couldn't get them done in a reasonable amount of time without all but abandoning other stuff, and I'm getting handed even more responsibility. Last week and this week, however, have been reasonably ok. Even with the added stress of training 4 people on a system I just learned myself. So what is the difference, you ask, assuming you read my posts?

Week before last, my boss Teams called me 9 times in one week. She called me 4 times in the last two weeks. She is a wonderful resource and she always shoots straight, but, dammit, she's trying to micormanage the sh*t out of everything. I've got to figure out some kind of balance to this. I will need her help, but not every two hours and since I have to CC her on EVRERYTHING, you'd think she's reasonably apprised of what I'm doing. I just have to keep at my daily affirmation, "You're making SO much more money. You're making SO much more money."

Gotta love those people who want to be CC'd on everything. So they can, y'know, read all those extra emails.