How's work been?

Robear wrote:

I wasn't picturing ultimatum, just a sort of recognition of being ready for a new challenge. I'm glad your boss recognized your abilities and stood up for you.

Yeah, sorry, I was quoting you because I was agreeing with your take, not arguing with it! Internet conversations are weird.

I know, right? Congrats anyway. $20K! I'm happy with a thousand a year lol. If that.

I got almost that much out of the blue earlier this year, which is nice, but yikes am I feeling this part:

"I've passed 40 and am worried that I will stay in a role I'm overqualified for while getting no new experience, which means I'm both getting bored and will be screwed if I need to find a new job."

I'm 51 and I finally got validation for all the intangibles I bring from my new employer. I had been stuck in desktop support for over 10 years. My new job is a senior program coordinator where all of the agility of being able to produce in drastically different environments one day to the next was rewarded and valued.

Crawley wrote:

Had it happen to me twice. First with IBM and now with Oracle.

It’s harder to stand out in the larger companies. Really just feel like a number at times. So raises and bonuses are few and far between as they have to go through several layers of tape to get approval.

It takes about 6 months before the companies figure out what they purchased. if the product your working on is a money maker - like 10m or more you should be good. If not they’ll most likely phase out those products as it’s not worth it.

Your company will likely tell you nothing will change or it’s a good thing. There will be a lot of assurances. It’s somewhat BS. In both my instances the CEOs were gone within a few months. You’ll find a lot of upper management leave or be let go. In the IBM take over we ended up going from about 100 employees down to maybe 20. The Oracle takeover was much better as the company was making some good money so most employees were kept. But I was on two different projects that got sun setted by Oracle before being put on the money maker.

It’s not all bad though. Might have better health insurance, 401k investment choices , and they may offer some other perks you didn’t have before. And the best thing is if the management you are familiar with sticks around things hopefully won’t change too much.

Yeah lots of possibilities for how this goes.

Our product is core to their long term vision and a money maker so I'm more comfortable there. Microsoft was a customer of ours for years before they bought us so I've interacted with them a lot already in my role as principal architect. I can't speak to bonuses as that never regularly happened in our startup for anyone. At Microsoft bonuses can be very large but I'm not relying on them. Still figuring out how they measure people to know who gets what anyways. I got my shareholder payout for selling the company and a raise and all that so at the very least I have something to fall on if things shift. Right now this is turning into a good learning experience and I’m pretty excited.

I mostly love my job, but we went through a merger-of-equals a couple years ago and the other CEO - who according to rumor happens to be one of the country's 'Top 10 Most Hated CEOs'- took the reins for the first two years. He's finally stepped down and our old CEO has taken over, but there's been a lot of changes that have inflicted heavy damage to both benefits and morale. Combine that with all of the COVID shenanigans (and there have been plenty regardless of what side of the fence you are on) and the local office just isn't a place I like to be as much anymore.

Fortunately, one of our offices in the UK has been making me infrequent job offers for the last several years. I even accepted the last one, but then COVID happened, the UK went into lockdown, and the field service manager was unable to bring me over. Suffice to say, things have finally fallen into place and they were able to offer me a position again that I was happy to accept.

As with most people facing down a major change in work and living situation, I have a few trepidations, but my best friend from my days in the military is there and I've been to the office in question for several previous work trips. So, I mostly know what I'm getting into and my former military career has me mostly familiar with how this all works.

With the exception of the previously mentioned short trips to this specific location, all of my overseas time has been spent in SE and SW Asia, and my European experience was limited to airports enroute to the latter. I'm greatly looking forward to exploring Europe, meeting new peoples, devouring new foods, toasting in new pubs...

Cheers, mates!

OMG you are going to love it! Enjoy!

My Linkedin profile says "**** Not currently on the market- don't waste your time and mine ****". I got a contact request from a recruiter that specifically said "reaching out to waste your time with [an 'opportunity']".

Um, buddy, did you think that was some kind of clever screening thing, like "mention the word 'sneeze' so I know you read my full profile?" Because it wasn't.

My grandboss is now begging me to stay… with non-specific promises and a lot of hedging.


If anyone doesn't know, the Fraser Valley of BC has been hit by a brutal flood. Myself and my family are safe but there's a lot of disruption. At first three towns were completely cutoff. My own parents can't reach us because the highway is still flooded.

At work, this is affecting me more than anyone else. My work is in Abbotsford and we build breweries. The week before the flood, our payroll/reception person was away on vacation so I backed her up. I got one day to catch up on my actual duties on Monday but by Tuesday she was now cutoff, with our production manager, at her home. Eventually she had to evacuate. I am currently doing as many as her duties as I can. On Wednesday it was revealed there was an argon leak so we had to send home almost our entire shop floor. Myself and our procurement guy were scrambling to find a replacement bottle. The next day he left to Mexico on his scheduled vacation. So now he's gone for all of this week and the end of last week. A smaller highway opened up over the weekend and allowed our payroll person and production manager to come in yesterday. However, today there was a bad oilspill that has again shutdown that highway. I am currently doing three different people's jobs while also running as much IT as I can for the office. I haven't answered any of my emails for my duties.

The upside is I get to actually prove my entire value to the company (I can back anyone up) and with so few people in the office I can just listen/watch whatever I want on my second monitor.

Sounds awful Vector. I hope things clear up soon!

That's climate change for ya... but I'm glad you are getting to strut your stuff! Hang in there.

I forgot to mention that some vendors are trying to gouge us while others were attempting to strong arm our business away from companies that are stuck.

The upside is I my two weeks off scheduled for Christmas and any amount of guilt I had for taking that much time off has completely gone away.

Way to hold it down, Vector! Sounds mega stressful and your two weeks off for Christmas sound more than well deserved.

Also, small world! I moved to Abby last October.

misplacedbravado wrote:

My grandboss .

Oh sh*t that's good.

Top_Shelf wrote:
misplacedbravado wrote:

My grandboss .

Oh sh*t that's good.

I got "grandboss" from Ask a Manager, which is one of the few places on the Internet where I thoroughly recommend reading the comments.

Maclintok wrote:

Also, small world! I moved to Abby last October.


The team that I've been a part of for the last 22 months has been winding down rapidly in preparation for our live game going into maintenance mode. It's been kind of sad to see the team get progressively hollowed out over the last 6-8 weeks. There's also been a steady amount of attrition across the company since about mid-2020. We had some relief from people leaving during the spring but since announcing the re-staffing plans the regular cadence of good-bye emails have resumed again. This came at a rather inopportune time for me as I was in the middle of a proposal to overhaul part of our development process and was using that work to angle for a promotion with my relatively new manager. With 95% of the team getting reshuffled to existing or new projects, our dev pipeline was going to get a whole lot simpler without my help!

It hasn't been all bad. So our flagship team also saw some big departures. Before she left one of the outgoing producers there asked if I wanted to step in for her. Apparently she had come to take on the responsibilities of multiple producers and would be leaving a rather large hole on the team. This was the perfect time to slide my promotion plans from Project A to Project B and having my old manager on my side really helped things along. (He spent a long time not understanding what I do & simply left me alone. I ended up building myself in his eyes more from third-party accolades vs. him actually having input into my day-to-day). As an added bonus I didn't even have to jump into the deep end since my new executive producer (and boss) saw fit to bring in another newly promoted teammate to essentially run co-op with me so we'd form our own mini-team.

So things pretty much worked out. Aside from a solid week of crippling self-doubt due to the increased number of plates to spin and being put into a more leadership & decision-making role, I'm grateful for the new opportunity. The team switch and promotion has definitely staved off the malaise that I myself had been feeling since the beginning of the year.

Vector wrote:
Maclintok wrote:

Also, small world! I moved to Abby last October.


Ha! Guess it never occurred to me until you started talking floods and breweries!

So I'm the new US and Canada university application counselor at the private school where I work (in Athens, Greece). Let's just say that generally speaking, what Greek culture admires and what American universities want to see on your main essay have no resemblance to each other at all. Like, at all, at all. This also goes for the extra paragraphs and such that individual universities want on top of the normal application.

So far, I've been successful with 11/12 kids' parents in convincing them to leave their kid's work alone, that I am actually American, and that even though there are parts of this job that are new to me, teaching kids to write very effectively, AND for an American audience ain't one of them, folks.

I had this kid who kept telling me after each of my comments/suggestions/edits/changes, in a *very* derisive tone, "Yes, but I think it should be more like this." Very condescending tone. So I called his mom, who is a colleague who teaches History at my school, that her kid is 1) way behind in the work 2) has a very bad attitude. At which point, she started to lecture me about what his essay content should be, speaking to me in a very derisive tone, "Yes, but I think it should be more like this..."

And on top, they are both being advised by the woman who used to do this, who was forced into retirement. I had asked her for some samples of counselor recommendations she had written for successful applications, and she proudly sent me some, and....they were very poorly written, on several levels.

My wife has talked me into not spending any more energy on them. So I kind of did a thing...

Instead of giving all of my suggested changes, I instead sent him the conversation that I think the admissions people would have at the college he's applying to, based on his extra essay.

It may have been a tad...derisive towards the end.

Lol, you'd get fired for that here. I'd go with "If you want to get into an American college, which is in a strange and very different country, listen to the strange and very different American. If you don't care, do it the Greek way. I'm here to help either way, let me know what I can do for you."

This reminds me of how Japanese English speakers are reputed to correct American speakers on idiom and even pronounciation of English...

Robear wrote:

This reminds me of how Japanese English speakers are reputed to correct American speakers on idiom and even pronounciation of English...

Which, to be fair, probably provides better English schooling than some people being corrected ever got

For the most part, in Canada you don't write essays to get into university.