U.S. eyes fencing along Canadian border - ugh

U.S. eyes fencing along Canadian border

Wait what? Why? Really? C'mon.

So manning a 1,000+ kilometer border is the best idea to this nebulous problem?

Existing border patrols and law enforcement agencies already do a good job of keeping out moronic criminals and/or political violent nut jobs.

Dedicated and trained thieves/spies/terrorists/freedom fighters would simply bypass and/or avoid such blatant security measures. To them this fence would be a joke. It would also mean re-directing good government money that could have been spent on better, more sensible security upgrades. Like a 'busboy' with a suppressed pistol who plans on popping a bad guy in the head when the baddie visits a certain Paris cafe.

Have you heard of the term "security theater"? It applies very well here. Drug smuggling, which is what this wall would really be intended to stop, will find other avenues into the country, but every politician and agency head affected by the wall will be able to point at it and say, "Look, we're doing something. See that big damn wall?"

I do not often agree with Ron Paul. But a fence to keep "others" out is precisely what the Berlin Wall started as.

I propose a sophisticated networked AI with hunter killer drones. We could call it SkyNet.

Irongut wrote:
I propose a sophisticated networked AI with hunter killer drones. We could call it SkyNet.

Forward thinking there. I approve.

Irongut wrote:
I propose a sophisticated networked AI with hunter killer drones. We could call it SkyNet.

Minus the killer bit, that would probably be more efficient spending and support a growing technology. And we can't have that now, can we.

What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

Irongut wrote:
I propose a sophisticated networked AI with hunter killer drones. We could call it SkyNet.

Send me a PM, I know some dudes at CyberDyne.

NathanialG wrote:
What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

Underwater mines and surface mines too. Why not. I'm sure there is a surplus of unstable WW2 surface mines.

NathanialG wrote:
What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

They could just light the Great Lakes on fire again.

I propose a 2.5 mile wide buffer zone between the peaceful, capitalist nation to the south and the red menace in the north. We can put mines in the middle, and the fence around that. We just have to watch out for infiltrators coming in to steal our military secrets and movie starlets.

This is coming up on the bicentennial of the war of 1812?
Suspicious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812#Invasions_of_Upper_and_Lower_Canada.2C_1812

Irongut wrote:
I propose a sophisticated networked AI with hunter killer drones. We could call it SkyNet.

Ha ha. That would be funnier except they already have unmanned aerial vehicles patrolling the border. At least it says so in this article so take that as you will. I doubt they are the armed hunter drones they have serving overseas, some of which are autonomous! O_o.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle

MORE: They have robots (REE-BITS!) that can decide on their own if a person is friend or bullet-sponge. This might not be T800 level of thinking but they are making their own decisions. Which I think is really cool by the way.

Strangeblades wrote:
NathanialG wrote:
What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

Underwater mines and surface mines too. Why not. I'm sure there is a surplus of unstable WW2 surface mines.

The fact you and I had the same thought scares me.

This...might be a case of bad reporting:

The Customs and Border Protection report says while fences have been a big element in deterring unauthorized crossings of the U.S.-Mexican border, "it is unlikely that fencing will play as prominent a role" on the northern border, given its length and terrain that varies from prairie to forest.

Actually reading the article, it doesn't look anything like what the headline would lead one to believe.

Kraint wrote:
I propose a 2.5 mile wide buffer zone between the peaceful, capitalist nation to the south and the red menace in the north. We can put mines in the middle, and the fence around that. We just have to watch out for infiltrators coming in to steal our military secrets and movie starlets.

Considering I live in this 2.5mile wide buffer zone, I would not be happy, otherwise I like this idea.

This happened near where I live - http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?c...

Pretty crazy to dig a tunnel that long underneath the border.

Personally, I think a big fence around your country is a great idea.

Keeps you out of ours.

Keep Canada for Canadians !!

err or something like that.

CheezePavilion wrote:
This...might be a case of bad reporting:

The Customs and Border Protection report says while fences have been a big element in deterring unauthorized crossings of the U.S.-Mexican border, "it is unlikely that fencing will play as prominent a role" on the northern border, given its length and terrain that varies from prairie to forest.

Actually reading the article, it doesn't look anything like what the headline would lead one to believe.

What? You READ the article? What about our solemn promise to only have knee-jerk reactions and NOT thoughtful discussions?

ClockworkHouse wrote:
NathanialG wrote:
What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

They could just light the Great Lakes on fire again.

Or piranhna, lots and lots of piranha, with little winter coats. As soon as they swim out to the Canadian waters, we can refer to them as the piran'eh'a fence, eh?

The day had to come, as far as I can tell more than a few Americans view Canada as an evil socialist/communist nation just biding our time for the right moment to strike. As a Canadian I can neither confirm nor deny this.

1) Well hey, a fence to keep us out would also help keep you in.

2) No no that's okay, you fence us off. We'll take our oil, wood, natural gas, oil, fresh water, diamonds, electricity, and real beer with us.

Irongut wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
NathanialG wrote:
What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

They could just light the Great Lakes on fire again.

Or piranhna, lots and lots of piranha, with little winter coats. As soon as they swim out to the Canadian waters, we can refer to them as the piran'eh'a fence, eh?

This is good. Make it so.

(Little winter coats. So cute! And little tiny booties, er, finnies)

Strangeblades wrote:
CheezePavilion wrote:
This...might be a case of bad reporting:

The Customs and Border Protection report says while fences have been a big element in deterring unauthorized crossings of the U.S.-Mexican border, "it is unlikely that fencing will play as prominent a role" on the northern border, given its length and terrain that varies from prairie to forest.

Actually reading the article, it doesn't look anything like what the headline would lead one to believe.

What? You READ the article? What about our solemn promise to only have knee-jerk reactions and NOT thoughtful discussions? ;)

Do you know how much it hurt not to make a reference to Handmaid's Tale? : D

CheezePavilion wrote:
Strangeblades wrote:
CheezePavilion wrote:
This...might be a case of bad reporting:

The Customs and Border Protection report says while fences have been a big element in deterring unauthorized crossings of the U.S.-Mexican border, "it is unlikely that fencing will play as prominent a role" on the northern border, given its length and terrain that varies from prairie to forest.

Actually reading the article, it doesn't look anything like what the headline would lead one to believe.

What? You READ the article? What about our solemn promise to only have knee-jerk reactions and NOT thoughtful discussions? ;)

Do you know how much it hurt not to make a reference to Handmaid's Tale? : D

I dont know what the maid does with her hands, but are you saying it would encourage closer relations?

Well either way, this is nothing but a potential jobs program. People will be back at work, smiling with satisfaction as they prepare all those post holes and stretch a mighty fence from shining sea to shining sea. As my grandfather used to say, "Digging a hole is good for the soul." And let me tell you, I've dug myself into many a hole.

Irongut wrote:
CheezePavilion wrote:
Strangeblades wrote:
CheezePavilion wrote:
This...might be a case of bad reporting:

The Customs and Border Protection report says while fences have been a big element in deterring unauthorized crossings of the U.S.-Mexican border, "it is unlikely that fencing will play as prominent a role" on the northern border, given its length and terrain that varies from prairie to forest.

Actually reading the article, it doesn't look anything like what the headline would lead one to believe.

What? You READ the article? What about our solemn promise to only have knee-jerk reactions and NOT thoughtful discussions? ;)

Do you know how much it hurt not to make a reference to Handmaid's Tale? : D

I dont know what the maid does with her hands, but are you saying it would encourage closer relations?

Well either way, this is nothing but a potential jobs program. People will be back at work, smiling with satisfaction as they prepare all those post holes and stretch a mighty fence from shining sea to shining sea. As my grandfather used to say, "Digging a hole is good for the soul." And let me tell you, I've dug myself into many a hole.

*sings*

I dig my hole, you build a wall...

Let's be a bit more creative people.

If we're going to secure Americuh from the evil "eh" menace there's only one way to do it.

A 1000 mile (Americuns don't do that metric nonsense) moat between the two countries filled with maple syrup heated to a temperature bodering magma!

garion333 wrote:
Strangeblades wrote:
NathanialG wrote:
What would they do about all that pesky water stuff? Fencing in the Great Lakes seems like a pretty serious problem.

Underwater mines and surface mines too. Why not. I'm sure there is a surplus of unstable WW2 surface mines.

The fact you and I had the same thought scares me. ;)

It does not scare me. It reassures me the implant I uh, implanted, is working perfectly.

Strangeblades wrote:
Wait what? Why? Really? C'mon.

Keeps us from escaping.

krev82 wrote:

2) No no that's okay, you fence us off. We'll take our oil, wood, natural gas, oil, fresh water, diamonds, electricity, and real beer with us.

Don't forget your LIE bacon!

Bear wrote:
Let's be a bit more creative people.

If we're going to secure Americuh from the evil "eh" menace there's only one way to do it.

A 1000 mile (Americuns don't do that metric nonsense) moat between the two countries filled with maple syrup heated to a temperature bodering magma!

We're going to need a bigger waffle...

LobsterMobster wrote:
krev82 wrote:

2) No no that's okay, you fence us off. We'll take our oil, wood, natural gas, oil, fresh water, diamonds, electricity, and real beer with us.

Don't forget your LIE bacon!

If there was ever a reason for a wall ... I mean, the pilgrims put an ocean between them and England to get away from their lame idea of bacon.

(Real beer? What's he talkin about?)

I love the smell of maple in the morning. Smells like, hickory.

garion333 wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:
krev82 wrote:

2) No no that's okay, you fence us off. We'll take our oil, wood, natural gas, oil, fresh water, diamonds, electricity, and real beer with us.

Don't forget your LIE bacon!

If there was ever a reason for a wall ... I mean, the pilgrims put an ocean between them and England to get away from their lame idea of bacon.

(Real beer? What's he talkin about?)


Here's the thing: that stuff you guys call "Canadian bacon"? Most of us don't eat that, we just eat regular bacon. I don't know why you call it that.