The Human Centipede Pt 2: Full Sequence

My final attempt to get a LOL out of this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQE... (NSFW Language)

Asz wrote:

My final attempt to get a LOL out of this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQE... (NSFW Language)

You'll have to explain the link before I'll click on it.

Paleocon wrote:
Asz wrote:

My final attempt to get a LOL out of this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQE... (NSFW Language)

You'll have to explain the link before I'll click on it.

And even then, I won't click on it. Just in case.

Paleocon wrote:
Asz wrote:

My final attempt to get a LOL out of this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQE... (NSFW Language)

You'll have to explain the link before I'll click on it.

It's a scene from Clerks 2 - nothing too objectionable, but probably NSFW.

Paleocon wrote:
Asz wrote:

My final attempt to get a LOL out of this thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQE... (NSFW Language)

You'll have to explain the link before I'll click on it.

This, I'm not going to click on a link marked NSFW in this thread without a whole lot more info than "Language".

Demiurge wrote:

I'm going to regret posting this, but I'm fascinated by the topic of whether this film should exist. The basic concept is so terrible that people wish it had never been made.

That's horror movie genius.

I'd never recommend the film to anyone, ever, but I think it deserves to exist. For no other reason than the kind of discussion we're having here, and to know where our society's boundaries lie.

Really? Is it that hard to make up a movie which people believe shouldn't even exist? That is genius? So baby, rape, torture as a concept is genius? Because I think 99% of us would question whether a movie with those three things together should exist.

I can come up with vile, disgusting, disturbing ideas all day - am I really a genius? I don't think so (I am sure I can get some agreement )

Being able to make something vile isn't genius it is actually pretty simple.

farley3k wrote:

I can come up with vile, disgusting, disturbing ideas all day - am I really a genius? I don't think so (I am sure I can get some agreement )

The only thing holding you back from a lucrative film career is your low self-esteem farley. You have to believe in yourself!

I'm reminded of an interview I read a while ago. A Japanese real estate magnate made his billions by swindling, cheating, and/or intimidating war widows into selling him their family land for cheap after the war. He had some contracts with the American rebuilding effort and used the money he had to buy up land while folks were starving. He even used his influence in local politics to make his deals more attractive to him.

When asked what the secret of his success was, he said "There is no real difficulty in making money. All you have to do is figure out what no one else will do and do it.". For him, it was cheating old widows out of their land. For this "director", it's lying to your investors about the nature of the movie you're making.

I kind of want to see it.

edit:
Entertainment Weekly's Owen Glieberman gives it a surprisingly good review.

Much of the film's ''entertainment value'' rests on the sadistically outlandish performance of Dieter Laser, who's like Boris Karloff starring in a movie by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. The film itself, as staged by Dutch director Tom Six, is a fairly crafty piece of over-the-top suspense. By showing exactly what it promises to show, it lets us peer into a B-movie abyss. But unlike its obvious influence, the 1999 Japanese shocker Audition, The Human Centipede has no real-world echoes. It's an only-in-the-movies sick goof.

It would never actually work. Skin is one of the most sensitive organs of the body, particularly to rejection. If the people were the least bit incompatible, the skin joinings would simply rot away. That's assuming that you can get some kind of nourishment into the latter parts of the centipede, which is also needed for good healing - if the stress of the environment and the horror of what's happening doesn't just kill off your healing processes to begin with.

Assuming it all goes swimmingly well, skin itself isn't a particularly strong organ. You can chew off the joinings with your teeth, which I assume is preferable to life as part of a human centipede. Just the normal stresses placed on the joining would probably stretch the joining parts until they adapted and became large and eventually sprout holes, which defeats the entire purpose of the thing.

It's a stupid, juvenile idea. I can't find it serious enough to be horrified by it.

Podunk wrote:

I kind of want to see it.

edit:
Entertainment Weekly's Owen Glieberman gives it a surprisingly good review.

Much of the film's ''entertainment value'' rests on the sadistically outlandish performance of Dieter Laser, who's like Boris Karloff starring in a movie by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. The film itself, as staged by Dutch director Tom Six, is a fairly crafty piece of over-the-top suspense. By showing exactly what it promises to show, it lets us peer into a B-movie abyss. But unlike its obvious influence, the 1999 Japanese shocker Audition, The Human Centipede has no real-world echoes. It's an only-in-the-movies sick goof.

Hmm. I think, though, that that review severely misreads Audition as well. The reason it was so powerful was not in its simple gross out shock. It was in the inversion of the male/female and exploiter/exploited relationship. It was about a man who sets up a phony film audition for the purpose of finding a woman to date. He finds one that fits his ideal of a mousy, quiet and submissive woman. And she turns out to be a complete reversal of it.

This Human Centipede seems only to be about pushing the bounds of torture porn.

The idea's pretty original, and I think poop is funny.

I would watch this over a second viewing of Martyrs, for example.

edit -- for the record, I'd pull out my own fingernails before watching martyrs a second time. So take from that what you will.

Seth wrote:

The idea's pretty original, and I think poop is funny.

I would watch this over a second viewing of Martyrs, for example.

edit -- for the record, I'd pull out my own fingernails before watching martyrs a second time. So take from that what you will.

That fairly sums up my viewpoint. There are so many disturbing and utterly terrifying films out there - films that not only fill me with dread but make me concerned for the people writing, producing and acting in them. With a premise straight out of South Park it's hard for me to see this as anything but a goofy B-movie.

Paleocon wrote:
Podunk wrote:

I kind of want to see it.

edit:
Entertainment Weekly's Owen Glieberman gives it a surprisingly good review.

Much of the film's ''entertainment value'' rests on the sadistically outlandish performance of Dieter Laser, who's like Boris Karloff starring in a movie by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. The film itself, as staged by Dutch director Tom Six, is a fairly crafty piece of over-the-top suspense. By showing exactly what it promises to show, it lets us peer into a B-movie abyss. But unlike its obvious influence, the 1999 Japanese shocker Audition, The Human Centipede has no real-world echoes. It's an only-in-the-movies sick goof.

Hmm. I think, though, that that review severely misreads Audition as well. The reason it was so powerful was not in its simple gross out shock. It was in the inversion of the male/female and exploiter/exploited relationship. It was about a man who sets up a phony film audition for the purpose of finding a woman to date. He finds one that fits his ideal of a mousy, quiet and submissive woman. And she turns out to be a complete reversal of it.

This Human Centipede seems only to be about pushing the bounds of torture porn.

Yeah the Audition quote didn't sit well with me either, Audition worked on so many more levels than just pure shock and was a great addition to the horror/thriller genre.

I'm a couple days late to the thread, but as Dante Hicks would say: "You never go ass to mouth."

I've heard that it's hilarious and I see it in the same vein as the grindhouse type movies that have been made in recent years. For those reasons I'll probably end up watching it drunk with another person or two.

I watched it at a midnight screening two weeks ago. It's a lot more reserved in its presentation than I was expecting. They could have gone more over the top with it, but they didn't. Gore-wise, this doesn't even approach something like Cannibal Holocaust or even Salo. The actor playing the doctor is absolutely brilliant.

The film also address several issues raised in this thread. For example, prior to the surgery

Spoiler:

the doctor removes most of the victims' front teeth, so they wouldn't be able to bite through the grafts. He also removes their kneecaps, so even if they did free themselves, they wouldn't be able to stand. The girl at the end of the line also dies of blood poisoning, and they're only joined for a few days of movie time.

Really, I wouldn't recommend this thing to the vast majority of the people I know, even professed horror buffs. It's pretty horrific, and takes a certain type of personality to stomach, let alone appreciate in any way. That said, it absolutely has a right to exist.

Chaz wrote:

I watched it at a midnight screening two weeks ago. It's a lot more reserved in its presentation than I was expecting. They could have gone more over the top with it, but they didn't. Gore-wise, this doesn't even approach something like Cannibal Holocaust or even Salo. The actor playing the doctor is absolutely brilliant.

The film also address several issues raised in this thread. For example, prior to the surgery

Spoiler:

the doctor removes most of the victims' front teeth, so they wouldn't be able to bite through the grafts. He also removes their kneecaps, so even if they did free themselves, they wouldn't be able to stand. The girl at the end of the line also dies of blood poisoning, and they're only joined for a few days of movie time.

Really, I wouldn't recommend this thing to the vast majority of the people I know, even professed horror buffs. It's pretty horrific, and takes a certain type of personality to stomach, let alone appreciate in any way. That said, it absolutely has a right to exist.

See now that gives me a whole different feeling about the movie. Based on the earlier comments here and some of the review quotes it seemed like a totally unrealistic goofy mess, which I can usually find silly and fun. The fact that the types of things you mention are actually dealt with in a logical manner actually gives me the creeps way more.

imbiginjapan wrote:
Chaz wrote:

I watched it at a midnight screening two weeks ago. It's a lot more reserved in its presentation than I was expecting. They could have gone more over the top with it, but they didn't. Gore-wise, this doesn't even approach something like Cannibal Holocaust or even Salo. The actor playing the doctor is absolutely brilliant.

The film also address several issues raised in this thread. For example, prior to the surgery

Spoiler:

the doctor removes most of the victims' front teeth, so they wouldn't be able to bite through the grafts. He also removes their kneecaps, so even if they did free themselves, they wouldn't be able to stand. The girl at the end of the line also dies of blood poisoning, and they're only joined for a few days of movie time.

Really, I wouldn't recommend this thing to the vast majority of the people I know, even professed horror buffs. It's pretty horrific, and takes a certain type of personality to stomach, let alone appreciate in any way. That said, it absolutely has a right to exist.

See now that gives me a whole different feeling about the movie. Based on the earlier comments here and some of the review quotes it seemed like a totally unrealistic goofy mess, which I can usually find silly and fun. The fact that the types of things you mention are actually dealt with in a logical manner actually gives me the creeps way more.

Man, I need to stay away from this thread. Something about this movie evokes in me horror and revulsion, the likes of which I don't know that I have experienced before.

Yeah, I wish I had never posted in here.

MeatMan wrote:

I'm a couple days late to the thread, but as Dante Hicks would say: "You never go ass to mouth."

Or, in this case, you never SEW ass to mouth! *Ba Dum Tsh*

Hey I spoilerized it for a reason!

And yeah, if the stuff in this movie disturbs you, stay miles away from Salo. I saw that movie empty the room during a screening for my horror film class in college, and that class was made up of hardcore film nerds.

There's a guy named Dieter Laser in it! How can it not be awesome?

Also, I just assumed that this was all about a gay porn man-train gif from 4Chan or something. I'm sufficiently more disturbed by what it was actually about.

From what I've read it's bark is worse than it's bite. Probably not as disgusting as everyone thinks it might be. Keep in mind it's fictional cinema, and none of those actors were forced to do anything they didn't want to do. Not watching it is the best solution for most. Martyrs is a movie that lives up to it's billing.. trust me.

I'm a horror nut, and I don't know if I'll see it. I'm not afraid of gore, but afraid of wasting my time with crappy movies.

A movie that I will however be avoiding is A Serbian Film. Avoid at all costs.. I've warned you.

Humans are by nature a curious sort. I see Salo and I check the wikipedia page. The moment I see that its based off of 120 days of Sodom, I leave the page, knowing exactly what it is. Marquis de Sade was a twisted man. He actually coined the terms Sadism and Masochism.

Grenn wrote:

Humans are by nature a curious sort. I see Salo and I check the wikipedia page. The moment I see that its based off of 120 days of Sodom, I leave the page, knowing exactly what it is. Marquis de Sade was a twisted man. He actually coined the terms Sadism and Masochism.

I did the same thing. I actually did that for Human Centipede, too, and the Serbian film.
Sounds like of all of them, Centipede is the most tame -- it makes extensive use of implied gore (bandages covering stuff, minimal video of actual surgery) to let the mind fill in the gaps. This style isn't seen that often in the 21st century world of "watch me pimp my special effects blood" era of torture porn.

And yeah. that Serbian film sounds like Martyrs but with even less of a point (if that's even possible). Count me out.

Farley3k wrote:

Really? Is it that hard to make up a movie which people believe shouldn't even exist? That is genius?

Ask Stephanie Meyer.

Seth wrote:
Grenn wrote:

Humans are by nature a curious sort. I see Salo and I check the wikipedia page. The moment I see that its based off of 120 days of Sodom, I leave the page, knowing exactly what it is. Marquis de Sade was a twisted man. He actually coined the terms Sadism and Masochism.

I did the same thing. I actually did that for Human Centipede, too, and the Serbian film.
Sounds like of all of them, Centipede is the most tame -- it makes extensive use of implied gore (bandages covering stuff, minimal video of actual surgery) to let the mind fill in the gaps. This style isn't seen that often in the 21st century world of "watch me pimp my special effects blood" era of torture porn.

And yeah. that Serbian film sounds like Martyrs but with even less of a point (if that's even possible). Count me out.

I saw Martyrs, and could recognize what the filmmakers were trying to do. I'll never watch it again, nor would I recommend it to anyone, but as a film it had some strong elements. We can argue until we are blue in the lips about artistic merit vs. exploitation, but it won't get anyone anywhere. If you don't like these types of films don't watch them and don't support them, simple as that. Much like how I won't watch most romantic comedies.. those are more terrifying than most horror movies for me

LobsterMobster wrote:
Farley3k wrote:

Really? Is it that hard to make up a movie which people believe shouldn't even exist? That is genius?

Ask Stephanie Meyer. :D

LOL.

Or Robert James Waller.

Chaz wrote:

And yeah, if the stuff in this movie disturbs you, stay miles away from Salo. I saw that movie empty the room during a screening for my horror film class in college, and that class was made up of hardcore film nerds.

I genuinely don't understand why people think it is some great work of cinema. And enough people for it to get a Criterion Collection release. All it is is creepy guys doing gross things. That isn't a plot.