NHL 2010-2011: Rick Rypien

In case you missed HBO's premiere of 24/7 Penguins/Capitals last night (hell, I didn't know it even existed), here's some of what you missed (NSFW language):

Is it just me, or is he trying too hard, like he knows he's supposed to swear because he's on the network that brought us The Sopranos and Deadwood?

Vector wrote:

Colorado is the only competition and they're missing their starting goalie and best forward. Take advantage, pull way ahead, give themselves some breathing room, and really ramp it up at the end of the season. This won't happen but that's what I want.

Hope you had fun at the game! I wouldn't sleep on Colorado any time soon though. They have the same amount of points as the canucks and Fleischmann is on fire. Both he and Kesler recorded hat tricks and game winning goals last night. Either way, I think both of these teams end up in the playoffs pending some terrible string of injuries or bad luck.

Coldtouch wrote:
Vector wrote:

Colorado is the only competition and they're missing their starting goalie and best forward. Take advantage, pull way ahead, give themselves some breathing room, and really ramp it up at the end of the season. This won't happen but that's what I want.

Hope you had fun at the game! I wouldn't sleep on Colorado any time soon though. They have the same amount of points as the canucks and Fleischmann is on fire. Both he and Kesler recorded hat tricks and game winning goals last night. Either way, I think both of these teams end up in the playoffs pending some terrible string of injuries or bad luck.

Fleischmann, Kesler, Stafford, and Lidstrom all recorded hattricks. All but Lidstrom scored the GWG in their game too.

I think Colorado can crumble. Very young team, traded away their best defensive defenceman, best offensive player hurt, and an injured starting goalie. Last year they showed they can get hot and then cool down. I expect the same thing for a few more years. They're a playoff team but until the young guys become more consistent (age) they'll hover around 7-9th place with maybe a 6th if everything goes well.

And yeah, I had a great time. I was there alone so I was busy texting Jinnie and my local friends about the game.

Rat Boy wrote:

In case you missed HBO's premiere of 24/7 Penguins/Capitals last night (hell, I didn't know it even existed), here's some of what you missed (NSFW language):

Is it just me, or is he trying too hard, like he knows he's supposed to swear because he's on the network that brought us The Sopranos and Deadwood?

Naw, hockey players and coaches swear. It's a usualy thing. The problem with Boudreau is his voice doesn't fit and he's not a good coach for this team.

Yeah, that's just Boudreau being Boudreau. Don't forget that as recently as year ago everyone was singing the guy's praises as a phenomenal coach. This just a losing streak. I'd be surprised if the Caps actually have issues with his coaching ability.

I watched the whole episode of 24/7. It was pretty interesting. I'd say the coaches speeches were the most unfiltered part of the show. It seemed to me that most of the players giving interviews had their 'media face' on and were fairly guarded.

I particularly liked the part where they had Engelland mic'd for when he fought Colton Orr. It was pretty much just:
"f* you"
"f* you"
"do you wanna go?"
"yeah"
and they fought. They showed Engelland getting stitched up afterwards and his teams reaction when he walked into the locker room after.

The much bally-hooed Price is Right appearance is...see for yourself.

Rat Boy wrote:

The much bally-hooed Price is Right appearance is...see for yourself.

I don't have any idea what Oveckin said but at least he looked relaxed. I don't think I've ever seen Crosby so stiff but at least I could understand what he said. I think awkward sums that up pretty well.

This just in: Leafs are not a good hockey team.

I'm surprisingly okay with the 4:00pm start time. Every else I know was bitter about it.

Vector wrote:

Naw, hockey players and coaches swear. It's a usualy thing. The problem with Boudreau is his voice doesn't fit and he's not a good coach for this team.

I remembered you swearing a lot during your game! hahah

Vector wrote:

This just in: Leafs are not a good hockey team.

I'm surprisingly okay with the 4:00pm start time. Every else I know was bitter about it.

Another great game for the Canucks! but sad game for the Caps........ =(

Vector wrote:

This just in: Leafs are not a good hockey team.

I'm surprisingly okay with the 4:00pm start time. Every else I know was bitter about it.

I think the bitterness was mostly just recognition that they were playing earlier to accomodate the Eastern time CBC viewers. I know I don't like to watch 10pm games, so I was happy.

Also, the Leafs played fairly well, but were simply outclassed by the Canucks, to exactly no one's surprise.

Who are these Canes that are on a winning streak? They're starting to look like the '06 Cardiac Canes, never giving up, not taking any sh*t. Ward, when he isn't run out of net in under 2 minutes, is freakishly good.

CANES FOR THE STANLEY CUP!

jinniee wrote:
Vector wrote:

Naw, hockey players and coaches swear. It's a usualy thing. The problem with Boudreau is his voice doesn't fit and he's not a good coach for this team.

I remembered you swearing a lot during your game! hahah

There's a good quote that's relevant here: "We only speak two languages in this dressing room, English and profanity!"

nihilo wrote:
Vector wrote:

This just in: Leafs are not a good hockey team.

I'm surprisingly okay with the 4:00pm start time. Every else I know was bitter about it.

I think the bitterness was mostly just recognition that they were playing earlier to accomodate the Eastern time CBC viewers. I know I don't like to watch 10pm games, so I was happy.

Also, the Leafs played fairly well, but were simply outclassed by the Canucks, to exactly no one's surprise.

I know and agree. The time changes that occur (very frequently too) are a constant source of hatred amongst West Coast hockey fans.

ColdForged wrote:

Who are these Canes that are on a winning streak? They're starting to look like the '06 Cardiac Canes, never giving up, not taking any sh*t. Ward, when he isn't run out of net in under 2 minutes, is freakishly good.

CANES FOR THE STANLEY CUP!

So adorable. I could just pinch your gullible little cheeks. Skinner is freakishly good too. Scary that the team will have both him and Staal.

So I haven't been able to follow this season much at all, but I'm pleasantly surprised by the Avs. The news feed has been all about how this person and that person is out with injuries, and yet they seem to be doing okay. As was mentioned up-thread, I don't know that it'll last (they're young and inconsistent), but it's good to see while it lasts.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

So I haven't been able to follow this season much at all, but I'm pleasantly surprised by the Avs. The news feed has been all about how this person and that person is out with injuries, and yet they seem to be doing okay. As was mentioned up-thread, I don't know that it'll last (they're young and inconsistent), but it's good to see while it lasts.

They've won 6 in a row. They're tied with the Canucks for the lead in the division. I can't even wish injuries on the team since that's already happenened and hasn't slowed them down.

The Blues are just sad right now. Injuries have pretty much demolished what was looking to be a great season. I think the capper was how little effort they put into making Thornton pay for the Perron hit. Perron is still sitting out, and had to watch his team give the guy a free pass.

Jayhawker wrote:

The Blues are just sad right now. Injuries have pretty much demolished what was looking to be a great season. I think the capper was how little effort they put into making Thornton pay for the Perron hit. Perron is still sitting out, and had to watch his team give the guy a free pass.

I've watched that hit many times and I still think it's clean. But yeah, the response was weak. Who on the Blues would go after Joe? Crombeen? Jansen (was he in the line-up)? If anyone took a run at a Shark player (Pavelski, for example) the refs would have kicked that guy out and would most likely get suspended depending on what happened. Retaliation is something that's frowned upon by the NHL.

Vector wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

The Blues are just sad right now. Injuries have pretty much demolished what was looking to be a great season. I think the capper was how little effort they put into making Thornton pay for the Perron hit. Perron is still sitting out, and had to watch his team give the guy a free pass.

I've watched that hit many times and I still think it's clean. But yeah, the response was weak. Who on the Blues would go after Joe? Crombeen? Jansen (was he in the line-up)? If anyone took a run at a Shark player (Pavelski, for example) the refs would have kicked that guy out and would most likely get suspended depending on what happened. Retaliation is something that's frowned upon by the NHL.

Luckily they kept all of there players active for that strong effort against Vancouver in the next6 game. I don't think the guy needed his head taken off, but at some point, the players are playing for the fans to. I think the hit was pretty cheap. Perron can be blamed for keeping his head down, but Thornton purpose was to knock the guy out of his skates, and happened to hit his head.

I think the Blues should have sent a message that if you are going to hit someone, you should be a hell of a lot more careful. Perron been out for 20+ games now, and and it starting to look like it will go on all season.

And seriously, fans had been circling this date on the calendar for weeks. The Blues season has turned to crud, and they just sent fans home with a really sick feeling in their guy. It was just bad all-around.

I really wish the Toronto fans would lay off the team a bit. Is that wrong to say? I mean, I completely understand the frustration. I'm frustrated too. The Leafs look completely outclassed by top teams in the league, but really.. I doubt the constant pressure helps. Our players look afraid to make a mistake because they have 19,000 people ready to jump on them if the do anything wrong.

And do we really need a tradition of something to throw onto the ice when the Leafs are losing? Seriously? What's with the waffles? I can't think of a way to remove home ice advantage better than that.

Isn't it obvious at this point that the Leafs aren't a playoff calibre team this year? Yes, we don't have our first pick again this year, so losing doesn't help us get better in the draft, but unfair expectations of success are not helping.

What I'm not saying is that Leafs fans should be okay with losing. But I do think we should be more tolerant of mistakes from a young team.

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I'm almost happy for this Christmas break from hockey. I hope the World Juniors tournament is good this year. It should be. I'd love to see a Canadian team that just grinds their opponents down and wins with solid fundamentals hockey. That's what it seems our team is built for this year.

Jayhawker wrote:
Vector wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

The Blues are just sad right now. Injuries have pretty much demolished what was looking to be a great season. I think the capper was how little effort they put into making Thornton pay for the Perron hit. Perron is still sitting out, and had to watch his team give the guy a free pass.

I've watched that hit many times and I still think it's clean. But yeah, the response was weak. Who on the Blues would go after Joe? Crombeen? Jansen (was he in the line-up)? If anyone took a run at a Shark player (Pavelski, for example) the refs would have kicked that guy out and would most likely get suspended depending on what happened. Retaliation is something that's frowned upon by the NHL.

Luckily they kept all of there players active for that strong effort against Vancouver in the next6 game. I don't think the guy needed his head taken off, but at some point, the players are playing for the fans to. I think the hit was pretty cheap. Perron can be blamed for keeping his head down, but Thornton purpose was to knock the guy out of his skates, and happened to hit his head.

I think the Blues should have sent a message that if you are going to hit someone, you should be a hell of a lot more careful. Perron been out for 20+ games now, and and it starting to look like it will go on all season.

And seriously, fans had been circling this date on the calendar for weeks. The Blues season has turned to crud, and they just sent fans home with a really sick feeling in their guy. It was just bad all-around.

Sometimes even if the hit is clean, you need to respond against the guy who did it just to make a point. I agree with Jayhawker, its bad for team morale to let your guy get nailed like that without stepping up and hitting back. If nothing else, they needed to have a good game against San Jose. I didn't see the game though. Were the Blues taking liberties with San Jose and trying to pound everyone they could and lost because they weren't playing their game? Or were they just outplayed?

nihilo wrote:

I really wish the Toronto fans would lay off the team a bit. Is that wrong to say? I mean, I completely understand the frustration. I'm frustrated too. The Leafs look completely outclassed by top teams in the league, but really.. I doubt the constant pressure helps. Our players look afraid to make a mistake because they have 19,000 people ready to jump on them if the do anything wrong.

The Blues have run into that this year, and its been a problem for some time. At this point, there is no trade that is going to make-up for the output lost to injuries. It can only hurt the future of the team. I'd much rather see the fans root for the team as is, and enjoy those nights that things swing our way. It's gets kind of miserable to go to the games because there is a pretty large portion of the fans that are booing from the outset.

Jayhawker wrote:

The Blues are just sad right now. Injuries have pretty much demolished what was looking to be a great season. I think the capper was how little effort they put into making Thornton pay for the Perron hit. Perron is still sitting out, and had to watch his team give the guy a free pass.

Probably because Thornton didn't get a free pass in the grand scheme. He got booted out of that initial game for an overblown interference call. Then the wheel of justice spun, dropping a suspension on top of it. Basically, the league became the "on ice" enforcer and took Thronton out. The blues didn't really need to do anything more. Asking to do anything more would have been bad considering the blues need to be focused on winning games more than settling a phony grudge.

Jayhawker wrote:

I think the hit was pretty cheap. Perron can be blamed for keeping his head down, but Thornton purpose was to knock the guy out of his skates, and happened to hit his head.

The defenseman also deserves a large slice of blame here. You never make that kind of pass when a player is about to leave the penalty box. I guess he didn't hear the goalie slapping the ice with his stick to let everyone know that Thronton is about to get released? The fact the pass goes right into his skates doesn't help either. You are also asking a very large, tall guy in Thronton, someone who is constantly criticised for his lack of physically play, who is now captain of his team to stop on a dime and/or pass up finishing his check.

Pre-lockout this hit becomes one of the top 10 checks in the year. Post-lockout you are a dirty player. Finishing a check is something everyone is coached to do. Just because someone got injured in it, does not mean the play was dirty. This was not a Matt Cooke flying fore-arm shiver. It was someone taller catching a shorter guy with his down in the neutral zone, the place where everyone is told to keep their head up.

nihilo wrote:

I really wish the Toronto fans would lay off the team a bit. Is that wrong to say? I mean, I completely understand the frustration. I'm frustrated too. The Leafs look completely outclassed by top teams in the league, but really.. I doubt the constant pressure helps. Our players look afraid to make a mistake because they have 19,000 people ready to jump on them if the do anything wrong.

And do we really need a tradition of something to throw onto the ice when the Leafs are losing? Seriously? What's with the waffles? I can't think of a way to remove home ice advantage better than that.

Isn't it obvious at this point that the Leafs aren't a playoff calibre team this year? Yes, we don't have our first pick again this year, so losing doesn't help us get better in the draft, but unfair expectations of success are not helping.

What I'm not saying is that Leafs fans should be okay with losing. But I do think we should be more tolerant of mistakes from a young team.

I am surprised there hasn't been more anger directed at Burke (the person it should be directed at). It's certainly not the coaches' fault the team sucks (the players aren't there), and from what little I've seen the players are working hard. The players aren't there, and that's really the General Manager's fault.

On an angry personal note, Jacques Martin is making Andrei Kostitsyn a healthy scratch tonight in favour of Tom Pyatt. Kostitsyn is 4th or better on the team in shots, goals, assists, points, +/-, hits, QUALCOMP (a quality of opposition microstat metric). I don't understand the move, it's insane.

Coldtouch wrote:
Jayhawker wrote:

The Blues are just sad right now. Injuries have pretty much demolished what was looking to be a great season. I think the capper was how little effort they put into making Thornton pay for the Perron hit. Perron is still sitting out, and had to watch his team give the guy a free pass.

Probably because Thornton didn't get a free pass in the grand scheme. He got booted out of that initial game for an overblown interference call. Then the wheel of justice spun, dropping a suspension on top of it. Basically, the league became the "on ice" enforcer and took Thronton out. The blues didn't really need to do anything more. Asking to do anything more would have been bad considering the blues need to be focused on winning games more than settling a phony grudge.

Jayhawker wrote:

I think the hit was pretty cheap. Perron can be blamed for keeping his head down, but Thornton purpose was to knock the guy out of his skates, and happened to hit his head.

The defenseman also deserves a large slice of blame here. You never make that kind of pass when a player is about to leave the penalty box. I guess he didn't hear the goalie slapping the ice with his stick to let everyone know that Thronton is about to get released? The fact the pass goes right into his skates doesn't help either. You are also asking a very large, tall guy in Thronton, someone who is constantly criticised for his lack of physically play, who is now captain of his team to stop on a dime and/or pass up finishing his check.

Pre-lockout this hit becomes one of the top 10 checks in the year. Post-lockout you are a dirty player. Finishing a check is something everyone is coached to do. Just because someone got injured in it, does not mean the play was dirty. This was not a Matt Cooke flying fore-arm shiver. It was someone taller catching a shorter guy with his down in the neutral zone, the place where everyone is told to keep their head up.

100% agree on all of this. I see nothing wrong with Thornton's play and since he got suspended I suspect the Blues were informed by the league that retalition will not be tolerated.

As if the story about a crazy hockey parent shooting a referee wasn't bad enough, we can add another sad moment in hockey parenting history:

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/910773--controversy-pushes-girl-off-coed-hockey-team?bn=1

This is so depressing I have no coherent response to make at the moment.

Coldtouch wrote:

As if the story about a crazy hockey parent shooting a referee wasn't bad enough, we can add another sad moment in hockey parenting history:

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/910773--controversy-pushes-girl-off-coed-hockey-team?bn=1

This is so depressing I have no coherent response to make at the moment.

I thought this was the worst part:

“(Atis) is not my coach so I don’t know how he’s judging my play,” she said. “If there’s something wrong, my coach should have talked to me, not him. And my coach never did.”

Until I got to this part:

Atis said he never intended Kayla to see the agenda.

“As a parent, my heart goes out to her. If Kayla truly read this agenda by accident, it is very unfortunate . . . I am mortified that Vanessa or Sheree or whoever shared this agenda with Kayla would actually do so . . . I believe Kayla’s feelings could have been spared. That, to me, is the great shame in this process that Kayla would feel as she did.”

What a heartless, shameless piece of garbage George Atis is.

Great Canucks vs Red Wings game tonight........... so fun to watch!

Sucks that we lost.....=( sad face for me

I'm enjoying the hell out of the 24/7 series on HBO. I want that year round, weekly, following random teams. I love the peek into the lives as it's so vastly different from my life of toil and suffering.

jinniee wrote:

Great Canucks vs Red Wings game tonight........... so fun to watch!

Sucks that we lost.....=( sad face for me

Good game, but I would have traded a loss (or ten) for Datsyuk not to have been injured. And to make it worse, its a broken wrist. That's like Dirk Diggler breaking his dick.

Too bad for Datysuk. It didn't even look like that bad of a fall. You just can't wish injury on a class player like him.

Otherwise, great game to watch but I did throw my beer at the TV when Zetterburg finished it. F*cking Zetterberg. Broke my heart. Anyone catch the clip where Zetterburg flipped the puck at the Canucks bench where Kesler caught it and threw it back at him? How casual it all looked made me laugh.