Catherine Q*bert-All

Minarchist wrote:

You hear different internal thoughts of Vincent's, depending on where the meter is. The actual conversations are the same, but his asides change.

Which internal thoughts? The ones he has while drinking, or the ones in actual cut scenes?

Example: after Vincent

Spoiler:

breaks up with Catherine, just before his hilarious beat down

he has internal dialogue along the lines of 'Aw man, I really hurt this girl's feelings. I totally took advantage of her'. This was on my full chaos run. So would that be different on a full Law run?

In cutscenes, there are moments where it zooms in on Vincent's face and the order/chaos needle appears in the corner of the screen. Those are the times when his inner monologue changes.

And yeah, I think your spoiler is one of those times.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

In cutscenes, there are moments where it zooms in on Vincent's face and the order/chaos needle appears in the corner of the screen. Those are the times when his inner monologue changes.

And yeah, I think your spoiler is one of those times.

Thanks for the clarification.

Oh man, just finished watching all the Chaos endings.......TOTALLY. FREAKIN. AWESOME.

Yeah, True Chaos was the funniest of all of them.

I still need to look those up.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

I still need to look those up.

Yeah, I'm starting to realize that as much as I love the game one time through, I will never be able to take the time to do other playthroughs. I should just youtube the other endings. I blame it on the pile.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

I blame it on my horrible lack of puzzle skills and innate fear of ass-mouth monsters.

FTFY

tuffalobuffalo wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

I still need to look those up.

Yeah, I'm starting to realize that as much as I love the game one time through, I will never be able to take the time to do other playthroughs. I should just youtube the other endings. I blame it on the pile.

I get this sentiment, and on my full Chaos run, I was skipping chapters to get straight to the puzzling and endings. Taking the time to get all gold helped too as I can skip all the puzzles as well.

Now doing my full Law run, I'm skipping all the puzzling only, and approaching it as an interactive anime. It's interesting to see all the hints and foreshadowing to the endgame reveals, and in some ways is actually more engaging. It's also neat to see all the different dialogue options. I don't think I took a single phone call in my first play, and now I've been answering them in the last two, and it adds this extra layer of narrative depth that wasn't there the first time.

I'm getting too frustrated with the last stages. I think I'm about to youtube the endings.

Oh man I just saw

Spoiler:

Teddy!

strangederby wrote:

Oh man I just saw

Spoiler:

Teddy!

Where?!?

At the far end of the bar. It's meant to be a plush toy I think. Or maybe it's a novelty ice bucket. He is after all empty inside.

strangederby wrote:

At the far end of the bar. It's meant to be a plush toy I think. Or maybe it's a novelty ice bucket. He is after all empty inside.

Far right hand side near where Erica hangs out.

Dammit I so want to play persona 3 and 4. In the likely event that Atlus don't issue xbox versions I'm going to have to go ahead and take an axe to the furniture in order to make room for a second hand play station and all the extra cables.

strangederby wrote:

Dammit I so want to play persona 3 and 4. In the likely event that Atlus don't issue xbox versions I'm going to have to go ahead and take an axe to the furniture in order to make room for a second hand play station and all the extra cables.

Right now, you'd be better off getting a Vita for P3 Portable and P4 Golden, IMO..

Tanglebones wrote:
strangederby wrote:

Dammit I so want to play persona 3 and 4. In the likely event that Atlus don't issue xbox versions I'm going to have to go ahead and take an axe to the furniture in order to make room for a second hand play station and all the extra cables.

Right now, you'd be better off getting a Vita for P3 Portable and P4 Golden, IMO..

Hmm...

$250 for a Vita, $20 for P3P, and $40 for P4G whenever it comes out PLUS at least $50 for a memory card

vs.

$50 for a used PS2 Slim and $20 each for the games. $10 memory card.

I suppose if you already wanted a Vita, but I have promised myself never to buy new consoles for the explicit purpose of playing old games.

Actually, I opted for the used PS2 and Persona 3/4 a couple years back. I think I got 15 hours into each game, they're just not for me. Might I suggest Giant Bomb's Persona 4 endurance run?

strangederby wrote:

In the likely event that Atlus don't issue xbox versions.

The chances of those games showing up on the 360 are pretty much nil.

However, given that Catherine was multiplatform, there's a good chance that Persona 5 will show up on the 360.

Blind_Evil wrote:

[Might I suggest Giant Bomb's Persona 4 endurance run?

Way ahead of you. Giant Bomb's Persona 4 endurance run is why I want to play the game. Plus I've always wanted to play Fatal Frame, Siren....

ClockworkHouse wrote:
strangederby wrote:

In the likely event that Atlus don't issue xbox versions.

The chances of those games showing up on the 360 are pretty much nil.

However, given that Catherine was multiplatform, there's a good chance that Persona 5 will show up on the 360.

I'm guessing Sony has exclusive rights to the IP. Kind of like how Ratchet and Clank is a Sony IP but Insomniac can still make a multi-platform game.

SixteenBlue wrote:

I'm guessing Sony has exclusive rights to the IP. Kind of like how Ratchet and Clank is a Sony IP but Insomniac can still make a multi-platform game.

Nope. There's a Persona game of some kind in development for the 3DS.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
SixteenBlue wrote:

I'm guessing Sony has exclusive rights to the IP. Kind of like how Ratchet and Clank is a Sony IP but Insomniac can still make a multi-platform game.

Nope. There's a Persona game of some kind in development for the 3DS.

Oh yeah, you're right. At this point I really can't keep all of the SMT games straight.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
strangederby wrote:

In the likely event that Atlus don't issue xbox versions.

The chances of those games showing up on the 360 are pretty much nil.

However, given that Catherine was multiplatform, there's a good chance that Persona 5 will show up on the 360.

Didn't Catherine sell gangbusters on 360? That gives me hope for more Atlus games headed my way. Yes, Disgaea, I'm looking at you.

Jonman wrote:

Didn't Catherine sell gangbusters on 360? That gives me hope for more Atlus games headed my way. Yes, Disgaea, I'm looking at you.

According to VGChartz, 0.45 million worldwide on PS3, 0.17 million worldwide on 360 (0.2 million and 0.11 million in the US, respectively). Which isn't too bad for a niche game like Catherine.

Spoiler:

Also, Disgaea is a property of NIS, not Atlus.

Yeah Atlus just handled the Disgaea 3/4 DLC on PS3, for some reason. NIS published the games still.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Jonman wrote:

Didn't Catherine sell gangbusters on 360? That gives me hope for more Atlus games headed my way. Yes, Disgaea, I'm looking at you.

According to VGChartz, 0.45 million worldwide on PS3, 0.17 million worldwide on 360 (0.2 million and 0.11 million in the US, respectively). Which isn't too bad for a niche game like Catherine.

Spoiler:

Also, Disgaea is a property of NIS, not Atlus.

That basically means this game only sold 620,000 units worldwide? Am I mathing that right?

And in the U.S., that's 200,000 on PS3 and 110,000 on 360?

That's almost sickening, and also amazing that the U.S. made up half of that game's sales.

That's...painful.

ccesarano wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
Jonman wrote:

Didn't Catherine sell gangbusters on 360? That gives me hope for more Atlus games headed my way. Yes, Disgaea, I'm looking at you.

According to VGChartz, 0.45 million worldwide on PS3, 0.17 million worldwide on 360 (0.2 million and 0.11 million in the US, respectively). Which isn't too bad for a niche game like Catherine.

Spoiler:

Also, Disgaea is a property of NIS, not Atlus.

That basically means this game only sold 620,000 units worldwide? Am I mathing that right?

And in the U.S., that's 200,000 on PS3 and 110,000 on 360?

That's almost sickening, and also amazing that the U.S. made up half of that game's sales.

That's...painful.

620,001! I recently decided I wanted to explore game types I've never tried, and the entire Atlus catalog looked perfect for my purposes. I'm on night 6 now, and had to drop by to say I love it. I read momgamer's article, and she captured a lot of the things that were striking me. I am loving the block climbing parts, and I've got a serious 'I need to smack some sense into you' relationship with Vincent. The excellent writing has taken me by surprise. I think this may be one of the very few games I'll play through multiple times to see different endings. I'm going to go grab a Persona title for my aging PSP to see what else I've been missing next.

One thing i've noticed, and it's been mentioned before by other people, it seems completly impossible to "game the system" when it comes to answering questions. The little meter always seems to go the oposit way to the one I expect it to go. I've kind of lost interest in this aspect of the game to be honest as I don't feel I have any agency in it. Although I guess that's the point.

Is it weird that I find this game far far more frustraing than Dark Souls?

strangederby wrote:

Is it weird that I find this game far far more frustraing than Dark Souls?

What difficulty are you playing it on? As far as the meter thing goes, I enjoyed just answering with my gut and not worrying about it. I would just use a walkthrough if you wanted to get the true endings. In my case, I just watched them on YouTube.