NCAA Football 2011 Season Catch-All

gizmo wrote:

He can scheme a little bit, but he has yet to show he can recruit. IMO At Notre Dame, you could see the team degrade as he got away from Tyone Willingham's recruits. He made them better, but had trouble getting them on campus.

He better find some big time recruiters for his staff.

That's kind of what I am afraid of. He's popular around KC, as he did a great job with t he Chiefs last season. I'd be more comfortable with him taking over for Todd Haley to coach the Chiefs, to be honest.

I know that the latest word was that Zenger was looking for someone with NFL experience. I'm curious as to what his thought proces is. It could be as simple as the donors he hit up to pay off Gill are pro-Weiss.

gizmo wrote:

He can scheme a little bit, but he has yet to show he can recruit. IMO At Notre Dame, you could see the team degrade as he got away from Tyone Willingham's recruits. He made them better, but had trouble getting them on campus.

He better find some big time recruiters for his staff.

Someone posted these rankings for his recruiting classes. I have no idea how accurate they are:

Recruiting Class Rankings - Rivals
2005 - #40
2006 - #8
2007 - #8
2008 - #2
2009 - #21

I don't know how that will translate to Kansas, but it seems like he did find players to come to Notre Dame.

So, who wants to convince me that Trent Richardson deserved the Doak Walker award. Bonus points for calling out specifically why he deserved it over Montee Ball

Because Ball went to Wisconsin and Wisconsin sucks. Boom!

iaintgotnopants wrote:

Because Ball went to Wisconsin and Wisconsin sucks. Boom!

Riiiiiight. Let me remind you of the Paul Bunyan Ax. I'm sure you've forgotten what it looks like since it's been forever since the Gophers won it.

Phishposer wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:

Because Ball went to Wisconsin and Wisconsin sucks. Boom!

Riiiiiight. Let me remind you of the Paul Bunyan Ax. I'm sure you've forgotten what it looks like since it's been forever since the Gophers won it.

I believe the last time the Gophers have won was '03. In that eight years, they've had six or seven different defensive coordinators, nearly as many offensive coordinators and three head coaches. Congrats on beating that mess. Hell of an accomplishment. How's your hockey team?

If you want a serious answer about Ball, it's possible that some people view him as a system back. What's that? A running back is doing well at Wisconsin? Get right out of town. The only difference between Ball and John Clay, PJ Hill or Brian Calhoun is that he has a quarterback who isn't half retarded so teams can't really focus just on stopping him.

Jayhawker wrote:

Someone posted these rankings for his recruiting classes. I have no idea how accurate they are:

Recruiting Class Rankings - Rivals
2005 - #40
2006 - #8
2007 - #8
2008 - #2
2009 - #21

I don't know how that will translate to Kansas, but it seems like he did find players to come to Notre Dame.

You do need to factor in that those rankings are based on the individual rankings of the players which have been known to change based on who is recruiting that player. Notre Dame's recruits are ranked higher because they're being recruited by Notre Dame.

iaintgotnopants wrote:
Phishposer wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:

Because Ball went to Wisconsin and Wisconsin sucks. Boom!

Riiiiiight. Let me remind you of the Paul Bunyan Ax. I'm sure you've forgotten what it looks like since it's been forever since the Gophers won it.

I believe the last time the Gophers have won was '03. In that eight years, they've had six or seven different defensive coordinators, nearly as many offensive coordinators and three head coaches. Congrats on beating that mess. Hell of an accomplishment. How's your hockey team?

If you want a serious answer about Ball, it's possible that some people view him as a system back. What's that? A running back is doing well at Wisconsin? Get right out of town. The only difference between Ball and John Clay, PJ Hill or Brian Calhoun is that he has a quarterback who isn't half retarded so teams can't really focus just on stopping him.

Well, you've got me there. It's surely a point in your favor that Minnesota has had terrible coaching. Congrats on that
Our hockey team isn't that bad. Really though, they should just hire Bob Johnson from the women's team. Mike Eaves should have had more national championships by now.
Do we want to drag basketball into the argument also? I'm not sure your coaching argument holds up as well there.

A&M's kicker Randy Bullock won the Lou Groza award - a well deserved honor for possibly the most dependable guy on our team this season. I hope he has a brilliant NFL career.

Phishposer wrote:

Do we want to drag basketball into the argument also? I'm not sure your coaching argument holds up as well there.

I actually can because Tubby is kind of a sh*tty coach and Dan Monson existed. But, anyway, it's 3-3 since 2007 (Tubby's first year).

Phishposer wrote:

Our hockey team isn't that bad. Really though, they should just hire Bob Johnson from the women's team. Mike Eaves should have had more national championships by now.

Wait, what? You want them to hire the corpse of Badger Bob (a Minnesotan by the way)? I believe you mean Mark.

iaintgotnopants wrote:
Phishposer wrote:

Do we want to drag basketball into the argument also? I'm not sure your coaching argument holds up as well there.

I actually can because Tubby is kind of a sh*tty coach and Dan Monson existed. But, anyway, it's 3-3 since 2007 (Tubby's first year).

Phishposer wrote:

Our hockey team isn't that bad. Really though, they should just hire Bob Johnson from the women's team. Mike Eaves should have had more national championships by now.

Wait, what? You want them to hire the corpse of Badger Bob (a Minnesotan by the way)? I believe you mean Mark.

Yes, thank you. NCAA hockey coverage is horrible if you're not in town (and I'm not any longer). Obviously I'm seriously out of touch.
FWIW, I miss the hockey way more than the football or basketball games in Madison. The Kohl Center is magic.

Get a room you two.

Our DC (Willy Robinson) resigned and the search has turned into a giant clusterf*ck in traditional Razorback fashion. Just hoping we land with someone better than Willy, but Tyrone Nix is apparently the leading candidate now. Not too excited about that hire if he ends up here.

i38warhawk wrote:

Get a room you two.

Hey, we started by talking about football.

The A&M candidates I'm hearing now: Sumlin still, Petersen from Boise, Richt from Georgia.

Why would Richt leave Georgia? I know he was on the the hot seat early in the season, but Georgia has a much easier path to the SECCG and possible NCG.

Petersen turned down a $4 million dollar contract from UCLA. With Boise's move to the Big East of Alaska Conference and a real shot at a BCS it'll be tough to get him to move. I would like to see if he could have the same success in the SEC (or even PAC) without having months and months to gameplan for the big games. Sumlin seems like a good fit, good ties to Texas recruiting, and a history with TAMU.

Jayhawker wrote:
gizmo wrote:

He can scheme a little bit, but he has yet to show he can recruit. IMO At Notre Dame, you could see the team degrade as he got away from Tyone Willingham's recruits. He made them better, but had trouble getting them on campus.

He better find some big time recruiters for his staff.

Someone posted these rankings for his recruiting classes. I have no idea how accurate they are:

Recruiting Class Rankings - Rivals
2005 - #40
2006 - #8
2007 - #8
2008 - #2
2009 - #21

I don't know how that will translate to Kansas, but it seems like he did find players to come to Notre Dame.

I was basing my statement on the wins he got with Willingham's players vs. the wins he got with "his" players. He won 19 games in his first 2 seasons. This shows me that he can win with good players and possibly even improve those players. He fell off the edge then though, winning less games in his last 3 than he did his first 2, and never ending better than .500. He can coach, no question, but there's a huge difference between coaching players provided and paid for by a front office, and having to go talk them into coming to play for you. To my mind, he hasn't proved that he can do that side of it.

I'll be rooting for him though, I am ready for a rivalry in football between KU and KSU. Watching these beatings is just not fun.

Phishposer wrote:

So, who wants to convince me that Trent Richardson deserved the Doak Walker award. Bonus points for calling out specifically why he deserved it over Montee Ball :D

ESPN analysts are saying it's because his 'body of work', playing tougher defenses, and Bama having a mediocre passing game and thus defenses are heavily focused on Richardson.

He's probably going to win the Heismann as well, for the same reasons

With runs like this:

and this:

and this highlight reel:

i38warhawk wrote:

Our DC (Willy Robinson) resigned and the search has turned into a giant clusterf*ck in traditional Razorback fashion.

Good. I've been hearing Willy Robinson could come back to Fresno and be the new Fresno State head coach.

warhawk - I'm just a reporter, mang.

But that rumor was out there a couple days ago, and was confirmed yesterday by Brent Zverneman, an actual, reliable journalist. Now, some speculate that Richt is just angling for a raise from Georgia. Same with Petersen. Supposedly in Petersen's case, his family have a lot to do with his decisions. College Station is a lot more similar to Boise than LA is.

Again, just putting the rumors out there, no personal insight into the talks.

Umm, no, on Richt. UGA AD hasn't been contacted by A&M, which is a required step, and besides Richt was already scheduled to get a raise/contract extension. For the second year in a row, Richt just landed one of the top RBs in the country, and has a young team that will be preseason top 10 next year, and thanks to Mizzou coming in, he won't have to play the big three out of the west for a second straight year.

If you don't think coaches and ADs flirt before going public through official channels, I have some shocking information to share with you about something called pre-marital sex.

And if you don't think "unnamed" sources fabricate unfounded rumors in an attempt to placate their fan base by trying to show that they are leaving no stone unturned, well I have some lovely beach front property to sell you in Kansas.

Both are true! All except for anything nice being in Kansas.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Both are true! All except for anything nice being in Kansas.

Hey!!! The Pheasant Hunting is wonderful in Kansas, oh and the basketball.

Kansas, at least its not Nebraska since a while ago.

*Legion* wrote:
i38warhawk wrote:

Our DC (Willy Robinson) resigned and the search has turned into a giant clusterf*ck in traditional Razorback fashion.

Good. I've been hearing Willy Robinson could come back to Fresno and be the new Fresno State head coach.

Most people think he was told to to resign, but when I looked at his history and noticed Fresno State job was open I started to think maybe he just left. He's a west coast guy and maybe he just wanted to go home.

Still like the move. We ended up hiring Paul Haynes from tOSU. Myers wasn't going to retain him, but he looks pretty solid on paper. Apparently he's a decent recruiter which is something Willy was not. I guess time will tell.

Word on the web is that A&M's next coach will indeed be Sumlin, and it will be officially announced this weekend.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Word on the web is that A&M's next coach will indeed be Sumlin, and it will be officially announced this weekend.

That's a really good hire.

CBS is reporting Sumlin is official; U of H had a team meeting at 1pm.

My aunt: "Phooey." (She's a U of H alum.)

Is Army/Navy always this run heavy? One pass and we're almost done with the first half. Wow.