NCAA Football 2011 Season Catch-All

boogle wrote:

You better be okay with Mike Leach, no you better be ecstatic. He built Tech up to what it is (no offense to Tuberville who certainly had some rebuilding, but that program not being a Baylor is due to Leach).

Yeah, the more I've looked at the possibility, the more he seems like an awesome fit. I am still not sure how much interest he really has in Kansas.

But man, he seems like he would be a fun coach to follow. Arrr!!!

Hoping I get his book for Xmas

I love how Urban Meyer is not taking any flak from his ESPN colleagues. I definitely enjoyed 2006, 2008 and some of 2009 (worst offense for a one loss season?). Unfortunately 2007 losing to UGA and Michigan? Phoning in 2010 and leaving us with the mess that was 2011? If Urban Meyer can win at OSU without Tim Tebow or Dan Mullen then I will believe in his genius.

In the 'for what it's worth' category, OSU head coach Mike Gundy says Alabama is the more deserving team to be in the NC game.

the quote:

If somebody sat me down and said (I) had to make a decision," Gundy said, "with where we're at right now, Alabama lost to what would be the No. 1 team in the country LSU, and Oklahoma State lost to Iowa State. In our situation, if I was doing it fair, I don't know how I could put us in front of (Alabama) right now.

Kind of ballsy thing to say for the head coach of one of the other one loss teams.

He's a man! He's forty!

He said "right now." He's planning on kicking Oklahoma's ass Sat night, then he'll have a different opinion.

Boise State must be hatin' life right now. If they'd won that game against TCU -- they'd likely finally be in the NC game. One point, one missed FG away.

And then of course LSU would kick their ass

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7291763/nick-saban-calls-poll-voters-pick-two-best-teams

SEC coach cries about how unfair the BCS system is. You can't make stuff like that up.

DSGamer wrote:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7291763/nick-saban-calls-poll-voters-pick-two-best-teams

SEC coach cries about how unfair the BCS system is. You can't make stuff like that up.

To this day there are folks that don't think the first LSU championship team is the rightful champion, and still declare USC the champion. The voters apparently did not do their job correctly that year -- putting a completely over matched Oklahoma up against LSU.

If they stick LSU against some team behind Alabama, and LSU destroys them, the same arguments will be made this year. A coach working the media (and voters) to make sure they have something to think about when it comes their time to submit their ballot -- it happens every year, and is completely unsurprising. Stoops is also pretty good at this.

I like this article from today.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7296285/boise-state-vs-lsu

The best quote.

I would argue several things about Boise — including that Chris Petersen is the most gifted coach in America and Kellen Moore has as much potential to be the next Drew Brees as Drew Brees once did — but I would argue most of all that the Broncos have it just as hard as Alabama or Oklahoma State do, because all they can do is fail. In each of the past four seasons, they've spent every day trying to avoid that thought, because the system permits them nothing else. The Broncos lost on an errant field goal to a Horned Frogs team that is BCS-worthy, and yet even if that field goal attempt had gone through the uprights, there is a very, very good chance that they would have been shut out of the national championship game anyway. They had to know that.

Here's the really crazy thing ... if LSU loses to Georgia (they won't, but still) ... the two teams in the BCS championship game (LSU & Alabama) will be SEC teams that will not have won the SEC Because yes, assuming LSU loses in close fashion, they will likely fall only to #2.

The hatin' will be loud.

Most likely what's going to happen is that LSU will trounce Georgia, and then beat Alabama again. Alabama can hang with them, but our kickers suck.

Alabama kickers this year: 18 of 29 overall (62%). From 40+ yards out?

2 of 11

two of freakin' eleven. *puke*

edit: Cade Foster (the 'long' kicker) sucks. he's 2 of 9. He's also the kickoff guy and only has 3 touchbacks all year.

Jeff-66 wrote:

Here's the really crazy thing ... if LSU loses to Georgia (they won't, but still) ... the two teams in the BCS championship game (LSU & Alabama) will be SEC teams that will not have won the SEC Because yes, assuming LSU loses in close fashion, they will likely fall only to #2.

The hatin' will be loud.

Most likely what's going to happen is that LSU will trounce Georgia, and then beat Alabama again. Alabama can hang with them, but our kickers suck.

Alabama kickers this year: 18 of 29 overall (62%). From 40+ yards out?

2 of 11

two of freakin' eleven. *puke*

edit: Cade Foster (the 'long' kicker) sucks. he's 2 of 9. He's also the kickoff guy and only has 3 touchbacks all year.

So..if Alabama lost once to them AND will probably lose again, why does everyone need to watch that game? Give another team a chance, like one that has won it's division

Jayhawker wrote:
boogle wrote:

You better be okay with Mike Leach, no you better be ecstatic. He built Tech up to what it is (no offense to Tuberville who certainly had some rebuilding, but that program not being a Baylor is due to Leach).

Yeah, the more I've looked at the possibility, the more he seems like an awesome fit. I am still not sure how much interest he really has in Kansas.

But man, he seems like he would be a fun coach to follow. Arrr!!!

I guess Lawrence doesn't hold up to beautiful Pullman.

karmajay wrote:

So..if Alabama lost once to them AND will probably lose again, why does everyone need to watch that game? Give another team a chance, like one that has won it's division ;)

In other words ... the BCS system sucks? First time that's been suggested!

Basically that's what everyone (here) is saying ... give a worse team a chance. The BCS system is set up to disregard everything except which two teams are ranked #1 and #2 in the BCS standings. Period.

I get it that people don't like the system, but this IS the system for now. This current situation is a good thing in the long run, and will be even better if LSU loses to Georgia and the BCS has not one but two non-conference winners in the NC. The flaws are exposed this way. But then again, grotesque BCS flaws have been exposed numerous times before and nothing changes.

It's not about giving a worse team a chance. It's about the fact that we already know who is better between Alabama and LSU. That game has been played. Why can't we see Boise State / LSU, Oklahoma State / LSU, etc.? Why is that so preposterous that, given what we already know about Bama, we see if someone else has a chance to beat LSU? It's a terrible system, but if those teams replay or if the neither participant even won their own conference... that would be ridiculous even by BCS standards.

Badferret wrote:

I guess Lawrence doesn't hold up to beautiful Pullman.

I was surprised, personally. I expected that Leach might pick one of a several schools over Kansas, but WSU seems odd. They were paying their last coach $600K and the AD said he was willing to double that. I think Kansas would have paid a lot more than that.

It is possible our chancellor vetoed Leach. Kansas may also not be paying so well, since they are essentially paying off two huge contracts right now.

We'll see who Zenger pulls out of his hat.

If Leach got soured by the Craig James is a Female Doggo affair, I can see him leaving the Big 12 and going somewhere where he can have a lot of control, like WSU.

He's right.

Rick Reilly wrote:

The first LSU-Alabama game was more boring than Tim Tebow's porn stash. To play another one will be like remaking "J. Edgar" or attending a goiter convention.

I've never been quite so disappointed in a "game of the century" matchup. Terrible special teams, anemic offense. It wasn't like the defense was so good that the offense couldn't make plays. It was more like the offense was so scared of the defense maybe making a play that they just played the most conservative games possible. Run, run, screen pass, punt. Run, screen pass, run, punt. Boring.

Not saying we need a MAC 60-point shoot out. Because that's bad the other way, just horrible defense. But there's a happy medium where a football game can be entertaining.

A football defensive struggle is way more agonizing to watch than a baseball no-hitter.

And this is why I love Rick Reilly.

Rick Reilly wrote:

This is because, apparently, no conference can really play football in this country except the SEC, which invented the sport in 2006.

Yeah, the snark is strong with him. Especially the part about the sport being invented in 2006.

Well that's exactly what most SEC fans would have you believe. Hence our suggestion the other day to let them have their own thread.

Hey look he even puts some facts in the article:

Just to introduce you to OSU. An offense that scores approximately every 11.3 seconds. A strength of schedule ranked 10th, compared with Alabama's at 38th. A team whose only loss was in double overtime to Iowa State the same week an OSU school plane crashed, killing two women's basketball coaches. A school that beat five teams with winning records to Alabama's three. A team with four wins over BCS top 25 teams to Alabama's two. Hello?

Put up the blind resume, without the names, and most sensible people would choose OSU.

“Sugar is falling out of the sky! NO! It’s little Chick-fil-A cows! On parachutes! They’re COWS DIPPED IN SUGAR! LOOK AT THOSE SUGAR-DIPPED COWS FALLING OUT OF THE SKY!!"

Imagined call of the title game if Munson was still with us. Dawg fans can dream can't we? You can now continue with your previously scheduled SEC hate.

Oh man. Saw this one floating around Facebook. For you Kentucky fans.

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Stele wrote:

Oh man. Saw this one floating around Facebook. For you Kentucky fans.

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That's not really fair. Kentucky was celebrating the end of a 26 year drought against Tennessee. I get the amusing nature of it being a 5-6 team, but there was a little more to it than that.

Badferret wrote:

You can now continue with your previously scheduled SEC hate.

Yes, please. I enjoy looking at the funny faces people make when they're sucking on sour grapes

Well it's just a long line of funny things from UK football fans. Like the LSU game a few years ago:

I don't always tear down my own goalposts after a loss...
But when I do, I do it in Lexington.

Note: it doesn't make me a bad football fan for wanting teams to score. That isn't sour grapes, that is entertainment value.

boogle wrote:

Note: it doesn't make me a bad football fan for wanting teams to score. That isn't sour grapes, that is entertainment value.

That was a game involving, arguably, two of the best defenses in college football in the last 30 years, if not ever.

Jeff-66 wrote:

That was a game involving, arguably, two of the best defenses in college football in the last 30 years, if not ever.

Per the article above, Alabama's only beat 3 teams with winning records... so that'd make them 3-1 against teams with winning records. And 8-0 vs LOSERS. Not too hard to have a staggering defense when 2/3 of the teams you play have below .500 records.

But yeah, best in 3 decades, sure sure... SEC rah rah.

Stele wrote:
Jeff-66 wrote:

That was a game involving, arguably, two of the best defenses in college football in the last 30 years, if not ever.

Per the article above, Alabama's only beat 3 teams with winning records... so that'd make them 3-1 against teams with winning records. And 8-0 vs LOSERS. Not too hard to have a staggering defense when 2/3 of the teams you play have below .500 records.

But yeah, best in 3 decades, sure sure... SEC rah rah. :lol:

False.

Vandy, Florida, and Miss St. all have .500 records, they aren't 'losers'.

Bama's opponent winning % is the highest, IIRC, of any of the 1-loss teams.

And you really shouldn't denigrate their defense. Almost no one would agree with you, least of all the teams and coaches that have faced it, including LSU.

You do remember what Bama's D did to LSU right?

233 total yards
0 TD's
3 of 11 on 3rd downs
2 INT

This defense will likely have 3, and probably 4 guys going in the 1st round of the NFL draft.

Sherman out at A & M.