"A Game of Thrones" Spoiler-Ridden Catch-All of Doom - books and HBO show

Yeah I had no interest in the Long Night series, but a Dance of Dragons one sounds fun, provided they have actual good writers writing the show.

Might've been better for the creators. No one would complain about the adaptation. It would mostly be all new.
Maybe the pilot just wasn't good.
Who knows?

EriktheRed wrote:

Yeah I had no interest in the Long Night series, but a Dance of Dragons one sounds fun, provided they have actual good writers writing the show.

Well, the director of the biggest GoT episodes is a part of this, so there's that.

slazev wrote:

Might've been better for the creators. No one would complain about the adaptation. It would mostly be all new.
Maybe the pilot just wasn't good.
Who knows?

Could be, but it was also a female-focused production that likely made it tougher to be greenlit.

Worst part of the news seems to be that GRRM will be more involved.
Next book just got delayed to Infinity + 1.

Meanwhile, Benioff and Weiss lost their Star Wars deal, so I hope running the biggest show of the past 20 years into the ground was worth it.

They lost it? I thought they walked away because they had a conflict with their Netflix show.

DSGamer wrote:

They lost it? I thought they walked away because they had a conflict with their Netflix show.

Vanity Fair reported today its actually been off since May, before they got their Netflix deal. Decision was made May 19, after the GoT finale.

DSGamer wrote:

They lost it? I thought they walked away because they had a conflict with their Netflix show.

That was their other show for HBO. This is being worded as a mutual parting of ways with Benioff and Weiss saying they are going to be too busy to commit. Everyone is going to read it differently.

Initially, I would say no one in their right mind would walk away from a Disney deal, especially Star Wars...

but after hearing how dictatorial Disney was with every Marvel movie and how Disney jumped on Directors mid shooting for every Star Wars spin off, maybe it IS better to walk away from the Mouse.

They don't need the money or the work so disney or any company really wouldn't be a must for them.

Shadout wrote:

Worst part of the news seems to be that GRRM will be more involved.
Next book just got delayed to Infinity + 1.

He did say the book comes first, but nobody's buying it... I mean, what he's saying, not the book.

Nobody's buying the book either, he'd have to finish it first. (-:

In this Exclusive Animated Game of Thrones History, Ponder the True Power of King's Landing

It is not a Youtube video so I can't embed but it is interesting.

I received Fire & Blood for Christmas, and finished reading it this weekend. It's strange, I don't consider myself an Ice and Fire super-fan, but I can't imagine anyone enjoying it who isn't one. And I did enjoy it. Maybe I'm in denial over my own fandom.

It covers about the first half of the Targaryan dynasty, which includes the conquest and the Dance of the Dragons and its aftermath. It hints at tons of interesting stories and characters I'd love to get more details on, but because it's written in a "realistic" manner from the perspective of a maester writing a history, there are plenty of unknowns and conflicting accounts throughout. You don't get a good sense of why Aegon decided to initially conquer Westeros, because there are no surviving records from "that time" which might give that clarity. If you've ever read a popular history from Dan Jones or Thomas Asbridge, this is essentially the fantasy version of The Plantagenets or The Crusades, respectively.

It's still ASoIaF, which means it's depressing and at times grotesquely violent. Still, it has me looking forward to the prequel show, since there are a ton of cool things they could pull from.

Is the prequel still happening?

I thought it was cancelled too...

Haven't heard any updates since October, one way or the other.

Edit: The prequel about the Long Night starring Naomi Watts was cancelled, but they formally announced the prequel about the Targaryans last fall, and seems like it's still on the way.

beanman101283 wrote:

It covers about the first half of the Targaryen dynasty, which includes the conquest and the Dance of the Dragons and its aftermath. It hints at tons of interesting stories and characters I'd love to get more details on, but because it's written in a "realistic" manner from the perspective of a maester writing a history, there are plenty of unknowns and conflicting accounts throughout. You don't get a good sense of why Aegon decided to initially conquer Westeros, because there are no surviving records from "that time" which might give that clarity. If you've ever read a popular history from Dan Jones or Thomas Asbridge, this is essentially the fantasy version of The Plantagenets or The Crusades, respectively.

; D

(one of my favorite little easter (dragon) eggs)

I don't get it.

Edit: Did you stealth edit in the second set of bold letters?

No, just bolded the letters they have in common, the GoT family and the real life English War of the Roses family: LINK

Like how "Stark" is like "York" and "Lannister" is like "Lancaster," "Targaryen" is the 'tagen' part of "Plantagenets" with an 'r' and an 'ary' thrown in.

Plus seeing as how Martin is British an all ;P

fangblackbone wrote:

Plus seeing as how Martin is British an all ;P

Hailing from that far flung corner of Britain: Bayonne, New Jersey.

Yeah but surely the pet turtles from which he drew inspiration for the political machinations of Westeros were British.

When you grow up with the best pizza in the world, that's all the inspiration you need to do anything.

besides finish your damn pages.

I was struck by something today.

We are all isolating and on all my social media were requests for things to watch or read while we are all staying at home.

I have seen a single recommendation for GoT. Is this because the default assumption is that everyone has seen it? Or did it really just torch the interest that anyone had that they wouldn't recommend to anyone, even for people who have spare weeks to fill up?

Bruce wrote:

Or did it really just torch the interest that anyone had that they wouldn't recommend to anyone, even for people who have spare weeks to fill up?

I don't know, I think I would still recommend Game of Thrones to people despite the dumpster fire that it became in the last few seasons. Seasons 1-4 are arguably some of the finest television ever made and even if the quality dips after that (putting it mildly) there's still some damn fine episodes to come and a phenomenal cast helps a lot to mitigate the effects of bad writing.

I think the show was just so big that it's still too soon for people to go back to right now. If GRRM announced The Winds of Winter was releasing, I can see a bunch of people reading the books for the first time, or rereading them. But the show is still too fresh in a lot of peoples' minds.

Also it's not as easily available.

If you're recommending stuff on the cheap, you'd recommend HBO shows that are on Amazon Prime (which a lot more people have for shopping), like Band of Brothers or the Wire.

Or shows on the free HBO trial like Sopranos, Veep, or The Wire.

So yeah just watch the Wire is what I'm saying.

Never a bad idea.