"A Game of Thrones" Spoiler-Ridden Catch-All of Doom - books and HBO show

For what it's worth...

Brian Cogman wrote:

“From now on we’re not looking at a book per season,” Cogman confirms. “There’s going to be a lot more blending of elements from all the books as needed. You might see bits from other books, it just depends what each story needs in terms of adapting for televison.”

EDIT: He is referring to Season 4 and beyond.

Frankly, after they finish up to the end of Storm of Swords, that's probably the best way to approach adapting the books to tv.

Completely agree.

I wonder if this also means that in seasons to come, the show will on occasion, reveal details that have not yet been mentioned in the books.

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of lesbians.

FTFY.

Tanglebones wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of lesbians.

FTFY.

You did indeed, good sir.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Easily half of my enjoyment of the books comes from reading his descriptions of the various cuisines of Westeros and the Free Cities.

EriktheRed wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Easily half of my enjoyment of the books comes from reading his descriptions of the various cuisines of Westeros and the Free Cities.

Same here, but it shouldn't mean that the TV season will take more than one season per book.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
EriktheRed wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Easily half of my enjoyment of the books comes from reading his descriptions of the various cuisines of Westeros and the Free Cities.

Same here, but it shouldn't mean that the TV season will take more than one season per book.

The right solution is obviously a spinoff cooking show which is based on the cuisine from the books!

gore wrote:

The right solution is obviously a spinoff cooking show which is based on the cuisine from the books!

"In the Kitchen, with Hot Pie"

Hobbes2099 wrote:
DanyBoy wrote:
A Feast for Crows: 3 seasons
A Dance with Dragons: 4 seasons

Oh dear god, no. Those books are padded enough as it is.

Shows tend to crumble under their own weight after a while. If they manage to tell the story in 9 seasons, 10 tops; I think I'd feel less worries about them jumping Westeros Sharks or whatever.

House Shark: We Do Not Jump.

Atras wrote:

Feast for Crows will be 5 episodes:
1) Brienne walking around saying "Have you seen this girl?"
2) Ironborn being drunk and yelling.
3) Naked Cerscei being paraded and then carried by Zombie Mountain.
4) A Dornish man argues with his daughter.
5) Kingsmoot decided, Arya goes blind, Jamie takes the Riverlands.

You know, I didn't even think about that, but isn't Lena Headey one of the only (of-age) actresses to come into the show with enough clout to demand a no-nudity clause? Wonder how they'll handle the Nude Cersei Parade. Hilarious Austin-Powers-esque camera angles with random props blocking the naughty bits?

hbi2k wrote:
Atras wrote:

Feast for Crows will be 5 episodes:
1) Brienne walking around saying "Have you seen this girl?"
2) Ironborn being drunk and yelling.
3) Naked Cerscei being paraded and then carried by Zombie Mountain.
4) A Dornish man argues with his daughter.
5) Kingsmoot decided, Arya goes blind, Jamie takes the Riverlands.

You know, I didn't even think about that, but isn't Lena Headey one of the only (of-age) actresses to come into the show with enough clout to demand a no-nudity clause? Wonder how they'll handle the Nude Cersei Parade. Hilarious Austin-Powers-esque camera angles with random props blocking the naughty bits?

She's all ready been nude in multiple movies so I don't really think it's too much of a problem for her. The biggest problem they'd have is that she's covered in tattoos which would require makeup/CGI to cover up. But I have a feeling for the scene she'll be in a slip or something mainly because it doesn't really add anything to the scene. Similar to how Daenerys wasn't wearing formal dresses with one boob exposed all last season. Naked or not it will be pretty clear Cersei is humiliated.

Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
EriktheRed wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Easily half of my enjoyment of the books comes from reading his descriptions of the various cuisines of Westeros and the Free Cities.

Same here, but it shouldn't mean that the TV season will take more than one season per book.

I seriously have to be the only person who didn't notice the extensive description of cuisine. I feel like it's become a big meme regarding the books that I didn't catch on to, even after multiple readthroughs. Maybe it's my natural ability to gloss over what I feel is extraneous text, but I just never got a sense that the food descriptions were that extensive. Tyrion down the river, sure. Brienne looking for Sansa, definitely. But food? Never noticed it.

Dysplastic wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
EriktheRed wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Easily half of my enjoyment of the books comes from reading his descriptions of the various cuisines of Westeros and the Free Cities.

Same here, but it shouldn't mean that the TV season will take more than one season per book.

I seriously have to be the only person who didn't notice the extensive description of cuisine. I feel like it's become a big meme regarding the books that I didn't catch on to, even after multiple readthroughs. Maybe it's my natural ability to gloss over what I feel is extraneous text, but I just never got a sense that the food descriptions were that extensive. Tyrion down the river, sure. Brienne looking for Sansa, definitely. But food? Never noticed it.

Well, you can catch up on what you missed here.

Vega wrote:
hbi2k wrote:
Atras wrote:

Feast for Crows will be 5 episodes:
1) Brienne walking around saying "Have you seen this girl?"
2) Ironborn being drunk and yelling.
3) Naked Cerscei being paraded and then carried by Zombie Mountain.
4) A Dornish man argues with his daughter.
5) Kingsmoot decided, Arya goes blind, Jamie takes the Riverlands.

You know, I didn't even think about that, but isn't Lena Headey one of the only (of-age) actresses to come into the show with enough clout to demand a no-nudity clause? Wonder how they'll handle the Nude Cersei Parade. Hilarious Austin-Powers-esque camera angles with random props blocking the naughty bits?

She's all ready been nude in multiple movies so I don't really think it's too much of a problem for her. The biggest problem they'd have is that she's covered in tattoos which would require makeup/CGI to cover up. But I have a feeling for the scene she'll be in a slip or something mainly because it doesn't really add anything to the scene. Similar to how Daenerys wasn't wearing formal dresses with one boob exposed all last season. Naked or not it will be pretty clear Cersei is humiliated.

I felt that being naked was absolutely essential to the walk. I don't know why HBO would shy away from it in such a climactic scene.

garion333 wrote:
Vega wrote:
hbi2k wrote:
Atras wrote:

Feast for Crows will be 5 episodes:
1) Brienne walking around saying "Have you seen this girl?"
2) Ironborn being drunk and yelling.
3) Naked Cerscei being paraded and then carried by Zombie Mountain.
4) A Dornish man argues with his daughter.
5) Kingsmoot decided, Arya goes blind, Jamie takes the Riverlands.

You know, I didn't even think about that, but isn't Lena Headey one of the only (of-age) actresses to come into the show with enough clout to demand a no-nudity clause? Wonder how they'll handle the Nude Cersei Parade. Hilarious Austin-Powers-esque camera angles with random props blocking the naughty bits?

She's all ready been nude in multiple movies so I don't really think it's too much of a problem for her. The biggest problem they'd have is that she's covered in tattoos which would require makeup/CGI to cover up. But I have a feeling for the scene she'll be in a slip or something mainly because it doesn't really add anything to the scene. Similar to how Daenerys wasn't wearing formal dresses with one boob exposed all last season. Naked or not it will be pretty clear Cersei is humiliated.

I felt that being naked was absolutely essential to the walk. I don't know why HBO would shy away from it in such a climactic scene.

Did they reference the event from her childhood where one of her fathers or grandfathers mistresses has a similar treatment?

I don't think it's brought up until Cersei is sentenced. Then the uncle is like, "Remember that one time ..." I'm curious if they'll shave her head. My guess is no, because Daenerys's hair survived the pyre fire, but more than the nakedness, the bald head really added to her humiliation.

Speaking of Daenerys's hair, I didn't know she was a brunette.

IMAGE(http://distilleryimage0.instagram.com/f1c3ee5e5e0b11e2822f22000a9f09ca_7.jpg)

I just saw that picture on FB, what a great smile.

EriktheRed wrote:
Dysplastic wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:
EriktheRed wrote:
Bonus_Eruptus wrote:

Half of the later books are describing food or clothing that can be visually conveyed in approximately a second. This will not do. We need long, sweeping shots and closeups of dining tables.

Easily half of my enjoyment of the books comes from reading his descriptions of the various cuisines of Westeros and the Free Cities.

Same here, but it shouldn't mean that the TV season will take more than one season per book.

I seriously have to be the only person who didn't notice the extensive description of cuisine. I feel like it's become a big meme regarding the books that I didn't catch on to, even after multiple readthroughs. Maybe it's my natural ability to gloss over what I feel is extraneous text, but I just never got a sense that the food descriptions were that extensive. Tyrion down the river, sure. Brienne looking for Sansa, definitely. But food? Never noticed it.

Well, you can catch up on what you missed here.

Or go here and taste what you missed.

garion333 wrote:

I felt that being naked was absolutely essential to the walk. I don't know why HBO would shy away from it in such a climactic scene.

It's a really important scene - it shows the reader the absolute depths to which she has fallen, and the tables turned on her so thoroughly that I actually felt some sympathy for her despite her general vileness.

I do think it could still work without the nudity, but I don't see any reason why they would want to do that. HBO shying away from nudity does not compute.

Cross-posted from the spoiler-free thread so that I may squee over what appear to be Jojen and Meera.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/25/ga...

That is Jojen and Meera. I know from Facebook!

hbi2k wrote:

Cross-posted from the spoiler-free thread so that I may squee over what appear to be Jojen and Meera.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/25/ga...

I think those are shopped or something. There's no nudity.

kazooka wrote:
Hobbes2099 wrote:
DanyBoy wrote:
A Feast for Crows: 3 seasons
A Dance with Dragons: 4 seasons

Oh dear god, no. Those books are padded enough as it is.

Shows tend to crumble under their own weight after a while. If they manage to tell the story in 9 seasons, 10 tops; I think I'd feel less worries about them jumping Westeros Sharks or whatever.

House Shark: the Leap is Coming.

FTFY

George R.R. Martin signs deal to create new shows for HBO, since it's not like there's anything else he should be creating right now

Clearly enjoying the way this whole Game Of Thrones thing has panned out and not wishing to see it end any time soon, HBO has signed George R.R. Martin to develop new shows for the network, ensuring he’ll be far too busy to wrap up the fantasy saga for a nice, long while. Under his two-year overall deal, Martin will stay on as executive producer and occasional writer for Game Of Thrones for the foreseeable future, while also using those two years to come up with new things—or, in George R.R. Martin time, around 60 pages of a new thing. Martin’s prior TV credits include episodes for the 1980s versions of The Twilight Zone and Beauty And The Beast, which he should be wrapping up any day now. He takes a long time to write things.

I wish Sean O'Neal wrote every news story. I would read more news.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

George R.R. Martin signs deal to create new shows for HBO, since it's not like there's anything else he should be creating right now

Clearly enjoying the way this whole Game Of Thrones thing has panned out and not wishing to see it end any time soon, HBO has signed George R.R. Martin to develop new shows for the network, ensuring he’ll be far too busy to wrap up the fantasy saga for a nice, long while. Under his two-year overall deal, Martin will stay on as executive producer and occasional writer for Game Of Thrones for the foreseeable future, while also using those two years to come up with new things—or, in George R.R. Martin time, around 60 pages of a new thing. Martin’s prior TV credits include episodes for the 1980s versions of The Twilight Zone and Beauty And The Beast, which he should be wrapping up any day now. He takes a long time to write things.

I wish Sean O'Neal wrote every news story. I would read more news.

GAHHHHH. Now I'm furious that SyFy's already optioned Wild Cards!

If you need me, I'll be chanting "Dunk and Egg" quietly to myself until they announce the first new project.

I'm sure Sanderson would be happy to finish off the series after Martin dies.

The more I get into the final book, the more difficult it gets to read. Why? Not because of inactivity or dumb character decisions. No. Every sympathetic character has the same problem.