Windows 8

Has anyone else lost the ability to extend their desktop to a TV over HDMI? Or lost all audio out of Chrome via headphones but not the HDMI to the TV before that way lost? No? Damn.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/1...
I don't remember where I or someone else said this to make a point, but here seems good enough. I told you so.

RolandofGilead wrote:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/1...
I don't remember where I or someone else said this to make a point, but here seems good enough. I told you so.

I'm not sure how ending support for a particular development platform proves any point that you may or may not have remembered making, but by all means, be smug about whatever it might mean.

Kurrelgyre wrote:
RolandofGilead wrote:

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/1...
I don't remember where I or someone else said this to make a point, but here seems good enough. I told you so.

I'm not sure how ending support for a particular development platform proves any point that you may or may not have remembered making, but by all means, be smug about whatever it might mean.

In other words, you're a filthy thread skimmer? Anyway, me and Malor preach doom and gloom about Microsoft's direction, y'all say nay, I bring up the timescales involved when Microsoft abandons something, then this article, XNA has been dead, but still won't be officially dead until April 2014, fourteen months away.

RolandofGilead wrote:

...I don't remember where I or someone else said this to make a point, but here seems good enough. I told you so.

1) You're not even sure you mentioned it.
2) I like to think we're all better than, "I told you so."

Kurrelgyre wrote:
RolandofGilead wrote:

...I don't remember where I or someone else said this to make a point, but here seems good enough. I told you so.

1) You're not even sure you mentioned it.
2) I like to think we're all better than, "I told you so."

A) I'm going to a Superbowl party later today, would you like to take the opportunity to talk to me about NFL concussions and how career-ending injuries can happen any given Sunday?
B) re: #2, that only applies once an argument is over. Bringing up new evidence during an on-going discussion is acceptable. Also, you thinking stuff doesn't make it true and I'm sorry to have disrupted your view of the universe, or more likely, the GWJ community, as that can cause a sense of unease, which is why you felt the need to say something in the first place cause your tag does say you're "the strong silent type.", but I ain't ya mamma, so there's not a lot I can do fer ya, other than suggesting you add "passive aggressive" to your tag, but I don't think that'll help none.

You remind me of myself so very much. No wonder I piss people off sometimes.
(To clarify, I'm originally from rural GA, so my off-spelling isn't intended as an insult to your potential NC heritage, it just, felt natural; I'm sleepy, good night-yall)

Then please clarify: what conclusion were you drawing from the ending of support for XNA? Aren't there other tools still in existence, from Microsoft, for traditional Desktop development as well as for games? All I see is the inevitable end of life for one piece of software, XNA Game Studio, when there are numerous alternatives thriving. For all we know the could be readying a new solution oriented around the more pervasive multi-core architectures and cross-platform approaches we have today. IBM killed most of its tools around the turn of the century to rebase everything on its new Eclipse platform, and that has shown itself to be a more enduring and flexible solution than the numerous ones that preceded it.

I baked cookies.. do you want one?

TheGameguru wrote:

I baked cookies.. do you want one?

Would love one, thanks!

Kurrelgyre wrote:

Then please clarify: what conclusion were you drawing from the ending of support for XNA? Aren't there other tools still in existence, from Microsoft, for traditional Desktop development as well as for games? All I see is the inevitable end of life for one piece of software, XNA Game Studio, when there are numerous alternatives thriving. For all we know the could be readying a new solution oriented around the more pervasive multi-core architectures and cross-platform approaches we have today. IBM killed most of its tools around the turn of the century to rebase everything on its new Eclipse platform, and that has shown itself to be a more enduring and flexible solution than the numerous ones that preceded it.

Are you crazy? There's no way MS could be doing this for any reason other than some madcap conspiracy with the inevitable consequence of destroying themselves.

*The above brought to you by extreme sarcasm*

On a more serious note, I picked up a copy of Win8 today, not sure when I'm going to have the energy to install almost immediately after reinstalling Win7, but I'm just too curious to try it out for real.

Grand Conspiracy aside..

I noticed that when you join a Windows 8 Pro machine to a domain you immediately remove Metro from the default start screen.. once you login to the machine it dumps you to the desktop.

TheGameguru wrote:

Grand Conspiracy aside..

I noticed that when you join a Windows 8 Pro machine to a domain you immediately remove Metro from the default start screen.. once you login to the machine it dumps you to the desktop.

You know, I wondered why it stopped taking me to the metro bits after my first boot.

As well I found to my disappointment that just moving to Windows 8 won't magically enable TRIM under SSD's in Raid 0. You still need the underlying chipset and Intel option rom to be supported by Intels SATA raid drivers..

Currently that's the Z77 chipset only.. X79 outside of unsupported hacks still isn't officially supported.

Along the same lines of Windows 8, I saw that Office 2013 has now been released. I had not been following its development, but once release, was excited to learn how Outlook and Excel had been improved. From the sounds of things I've been reading, the overall jist of it seems to be that they've removed functions and changed the interface. Needless to say I was very disappointed to read this.

It seems to me that MS has now left the door wide open for someone to come in an really push desktop email forward. We use Google Apps for Business where I work, and while I really like it overall, if I had to use Gmail for my business email, I would quit. I use it for personal email, but there is something different from a few emails a day, with no real threading of conversation versus 80 emails a day full of various participants. I find keeping track of large conversations hard, and frequently have co-workers that do use Gmail miss messages in threads we are involved with. I use Outlook, and mostly love it. Still, I have a bucket list a page long of things that I wish I could do with it, but can't, and had hoped Office 2013 would have pushed the envelop on email functionality. Sadly, the other popular desktop email programs seem focused on basic email things or bringing the Gmail experience to a desktop program.

Excel was especially disappointing. From Ars:

However, when taken as a whole with the rest of the Office 2013 suite, Excel at least moves the ball forward in ease of use. Casual Excel users will certainly be thankful for the help the new version offers to make them look like old spreadsheet hands.

Nothing for the power user, and in fact, from another site one thing removed:

Office 2007 and Office 2010 chart styles

Things seem ripe for a true competitor in the office suite, and not just a remake of Office 2003.

TheGameguru wrote:

Grand Conspiracy aside..

I noticed that when you join a Windows 8 Pro machine to a domain you immediately remove Metro from the default start screen.. once you login to the machine it dumps you to the desktop.

It does? Weird, I tried that with a test laptop I joined to my work's domain and it always went to the Start Menu. Is this default behaviour or was that something you had to enable?

Parallax Abstraction wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:

Grand Conspiracy aside..

I noticed that when you join a Windows 8 Pro machine to a domain you immediately remove Metro from the default start screen.. once you login to the machine it dumps you to the desktop.

It does? Weird, I tried that with a test laptop I joined to my work's domain and it always went to the Start Menu. Is this default behaviour or was that something you had to enable?

default behavior.. this was a clean build on a Desktop PC. Not a laptop.

Maybe I was running the release candidate version. I'll have to try it again and see.

Scratched wrote:

Metro in a window: http://www.stardock.com/products/mod...

Saw that the other day. IMO, this is something MS should have done, at least for this version of Windows. It should allow Metro apps to be more useful, even to users primarily in the desktop. Better than just pinning an app to the sign of the screen.

I just got a Windows 8 laptop, and OMG can I downgrade to 7? Another quick question, how do you transfer pictures from an Iphone 4s to a Windows 8 PC?

EverythingsTentative wrote:

how do you transfer pictures from an Iphone 4s to a Windows 8 PC?

Your phone will show up as a drive when plugged in via USB. Pictures and videos are in there.

That's what I was expecting but it's not there.

Do you have iTunes installed yet? It might need that driver.

Also, let me give you some advice that was passed to me that made Win8 actually usable: win+x.

This seems a little more promising.

Fixed the Iphone problem. It has something to do with the USB 3.0 ports.

In Win 8, is there a way to stick a desktop app to the inside edge of a dual monitor screen? I'm not sure I've ever even figured out a way to do it on Win 7.

Sticking one to the outside edge is fine, I just can't figure out a way to do it without passing the window to the second monitor.

Win-[Left|Right]Arrow

Thanks!

LiquidMantis wrote:

Win-[Left|Right]Arrow

AAAAAAHHHHH! Why didn't I.... how... AAAAAAAHHHH! I'm not at my dock to try this but... AAAAHHHHH!

Rezzy wrote:
LiquidMantis wrote:

Win-[Left|Right]Arrow

AAAAAAHHHHH! Why didn't I.... how... AAAAAAAHHHH! I'm not at my dock to try this but... AAAAHHHHH!

Yeah, I've looked into Win8 shortcuts for stuff like Win+X and some others, but I did not know about that.