Windows 8

Hemidal wrote:

Lync 2013 is supposed to incorporate Skype features. I don't think Lync is going to go away for business use as Skype is too associated with consumers.

Oh good. We only recently picked up Lync here a few months ago when the office switched over to hosted Outlook and since we primarily use Skype we were collectively wondering which one was going to stay in use here.

shoptroll wrote:
Scratched wrote:

Things like windows are a big huge project, and not to imply anything negative about his successors but MS should be wary about losing the people who can deliver for them (whether or not I agree with the direction they take products they're responsible). I can't help remembering Longhorn or the first attempt at Vista.

That's part of how Sinofsky was placed in charge of the Windows division. I think he was over on the Office team and managed to demonstrate a real good knack for making sure they could deliver a good product on schedule.

If the guy at the top allowed politics to drive out a major asset to the company for their major division, then I can't think of any way to excuse that. The recurring dysfunctional politics rumours from MS really seem like reform is needed, or MS will bleed out from a thousand cuts.

MS is highly political due to things like multiple teams working on related but ultimately competing products. Good example is the decision to finally axe Messenger now that they have Skype. No idea what's going to happen with Linq, but I can't imagine that product is long for this world. This is the sort of thing that happens with a large company like MS.

Do you mean LINQ? or Lync? Lync aint going anywhere.. in facts its only getting better and better.. Exchange 2013 and Lync 2013 are simply the best Enterprise messaging platform today..nothing even comes remotely close to its power and functionality.

Yeah I meant Lync. Not fully awake yet.

oh good, I like Lync too
I just realized, I should be able to play Halo 2 PC now that I have W7!

If you want to read up on his career, check out this article.

Some bits of DX11.1 are now available on Win7: https://blogs.msdn.com/b/chuckw/arch...

RolandofGilead wrote:

oh good, I like Lync too
I just realized, I should be able to play Halo 2 PC now that I have W7!

I think Win 7 has a problem with some of those GFWL games of that era. I know I had to do a work around to get Viva Pinata running on Win 7, and the references I found were for a fix you had to do for Halo 2.

But it's doable.

In Windows 7, there is a small bar in the lower right corner you can click to minimize all programs. Is there an equivalent mouse control in Windows 8? I cannot find it anywhere.

sheared wrote:

In Windows 7, there is a small bar in the lower right corner you can click to minimize all programs. Is there an equivalent mouse control in Windows 8? I cannot find it anywhere.

It's still there, but you won't see it until you click. Windows+D still does it as well, first taking you from the Start Screen to the desktop, then minimizing applications to show you the desktop itself.

Got the Acer W700.. 1080P screen.. only a 128GB SSD though Kinda limits you really in a full solution way..

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I see you're continuing the traditional usage of IE as a tool to download other browers.

Scratched wrote:

I see you're continuing the traditional usage of IE as a tool to download other browers.

Yeah, whoever opposed Windows including IE never dealt with tracking down browser installation disks. I remember the days of digging around at Half-Price books for cheap books that included the WINSOCK installer and some form of an Internet browser.

LiquidMantis wrote:

Yeah, whoever opposed Windows including IE never dealt with tracking down browser installation disks. I remember the days of digging around at Half-Price books for cheap books that included the WINSOCK installer and some form of an Internet browser.

Isn't that why the EU mandated the browser ballot screen?

Love the Apple Acer keyboard

Spoiler:

just couldn't restrain myself, I am sooooo sorry (almost...)

GG, When i was considering a W8 tablet I was strongly considering that one. What are your first impressions? Have you tried loading any CPU/graphics intensive apps/games on it yet?

Let me just say that after a couple weeks with Windows 8 as my primary OS, I really like it a lot. I prefer it to both Win 7 and the Mac OS.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Let me just say that after a couple weeks with Windows 8 as my primary OS, I really like it a lot. I prefer it to both Win 7 and the Mac OS.

Same here, though I have to say that the store needs some content badly if it wants to succeed.

parallaxview wrote:
Scratched wrote:

You're aware of how fast steam is growing?

Are you aware of how fast the Itunes store is growing?

Holy crap, I never thought of this before; this means MS will never ever close off future Windows-MS isn't aware that PC gaming still exists (that's hyperbole btw) but they'll sure as hell lose a lot of customers who can no longer access all the stuff they bought.
Unless Apple and MS make a monumental deal somehow...ah crap. How can we get these two to hate each other a lot?

RolandofGilead wrote:
parallaxview wrote:
Scratched wrote:

You're aware of how fast steam is growing?

Are you aware of how fast the Itunes store is growing?

Holy crap, I never thought of this before; this means MS will never ever close off future Windows-MS isn't aware that PC gaming still exists (that's hyperbole btw) but they'll sure as hell lose a lot of customers who can no longer access all the stuff they bought.
Unless Apple and MS make a monumental deal somehow...ah crap. How can we get these two to hate each other a lot?

Think you are cross-posting my man

groan wrote:

GG, When i was considering a W8 tablet I was strongly considering that one. What are your first impressions? Have you tried loading any CPU/graphics intensive apps/games on it yet?

Wifi blows...you have to basically stand over your AP to keep a signal...and the 4000 struggles at native resolution gaming...Even LFD 2 I had to dial down settings to get an acceptable frame rate...but I can see the vision sort of...Windows does a decent job between virtual keyboard and physical..you can basically get stuff done in either Metro or Desktop with the virtual keyboard

Windows Updates have been failing on my laptop for about two weeks now.. I noticed this when I tried to change the display brightness tonight, and nothing happened.. backtracking, ended up in Windows Update and it's apparently tried to update every day for two weeks, and failed except for random Defender updates, and this display driver that I guess only partially installed, because in devman it's got something about the driver not being signed.

Never notified me, nothing in the Action Center, nada. What the hell, Windows 8.

My father in law seems very very interested in Windows 8. He likes the idea of simplifying things. He used to enjoy poking around the computer a while ago and now he doesn't have the patience for it anymore. I might get him an upgrade DVD for Christmas.

Think this is a good time? Where is the cheapest deal on this? I know the download ISO version is cheaper but I think he would want a real thing instead of a burned DVD.

TempestBlayze wrote:

I know the download ISO version is cheaper but I think he would want a real thing instead of a burned DVD.

Technically the media doesn't matter, I prefer to load up a USB device now. There's no real manual to be bothered with either. This sounds like knowing what your father wants rather than anything else.

Well, I was on the fence about whether to upgrade to Win8 as the clock was ticking on the beta I have installed or roll back.

I chose to roll back to Win7. I'm hoping to get a hybrid soon, but I just didn't need it on a laptop with no touch screen.

Wow, Windows 8 apparently sold 40 million in launch month. I really think the $40 price point helped that out. Still not sure if I want it on my new computer.

Quick question for you all. Anyone using XBox Music? If so how is it? I am using Rdio today and am pretty happy, but the idea of a locker service on top of the streaming has me interested.

I have been using the service for over a year (Zune Music was rebranded with the Windows 8 launch). Most of that is on my phone. Frankly it is awesome. For $10 a month I can listen to anything I want any time I want. If I hear a song I like I go to the marketplace and I download the song, album, or an entire artists collection with a few clicks. Very slick and very easy. You can purchase, stream, or download a large number of tracks. There are some that are not available and some that are only available for purchase. Sometimes you'll get an album but one or two tracks are not available from that album. It is kind of odd but it hasn't been a huge issue for me. I'll expand on that later. The music selection seems to be very good. On my windows phone and in Zune on my W7 PC it is very easy to do. I can't burn tracks to a cd to listen to in the car but that isn't a major issue since I can connect my phone to the sound system in the car. It is not as nice as playing through the cd (steering wheel controls don't work and no track info on the LCD) but it works well enough. I'm sure I could find a way to do it but haven't bothered.

One of the nicest things is that if the family and I hear a song on the radio we can use the Bing music listening tool. It recognizes the song and with a tap on the phone we are in the marketplace with that song pulled up. Another tap and we can buy/download/stream it. It is extremely slick and I absolutely love it.

Here are some examples of stuff I have gotten and issues. Some of them were for the kids. I have not purchased anything. Just download so far.

The Offspring: Days Go By - got it on release day without any issues
The Zac Brown Band: Pass the Jar - This is a live recording of a show they did at the Georgia Theatre. One track was not available but seems to be there anyway.
Sean Quigley: The Little Drummer Boy - Just tried it today. Bing recognized it but it does not seen to be in the marketplace. I purchased it last year on iTunes. It did bring up several other Little Drummer Boys.
The Beastie Boys: Ill Communication - all available for download/purchase
The Cranberries: Best of - Full album available
Death Death Die: Ninja Flying Eagles - Full album available
Taylor Swift: Never Getting Back Together - Not available immediately for download (purchase only) but available now for download
Foxburo Hot Tubs: Stop Drop and Roll - Full album available
George Thorogood and the Destroyers: Greatest Hits and The Baddest of George - full albums available
Kiss: Hell or Hallelujah - Song available the first time I heard of it (not a big fan of this song, though) - Looks like virtually all of their stuff is available though.
Pink: The Truth About Love - Full album available
Motley Crue: Live Wire - Full album available
Halo Original Soundtrack: Full album available
Saliva: Under Your Skin - Full album available
Rise Against: Endgame - Full album available
Relentless: Twinsens Odyssey - Not available

Another example. When Left 4 Dead 2 came out and they had Electric Worry by Clutch playing. Hey, that's a neat song. I want to listen to it. Rewind the commercial and have the phone listen. Tap. Tap. Play. It could not be more simple.

Yet another example. Hey, it's almost Christmas. I want to get some songs to listen to. I did a search (just now) for Bing Crosby. Found a Christmas album by him. Nice but not quite. Looked further down the list and there is a playlist someone made (no idea who). Further down there are several more. A couple of taps and it is streaming or downloaded.

I LOVE this service. That said you may also look into Spotify if you don't have a Windows Phone. Xbox Music is one of the many reasons that I will be upgrading from a WP7 phone to a WP8 phone.

Is the locker service live? I have a bunch of fairly obscure Mp3s that I cannot play with Rdio or other streaming services.

I compared Xbox Music to Spotify and while I liked the service overall, the catalog was lacking for my eclectic tastes. Spotify still wins out in terms of catalog for me - even over Rdio.

parallaxview wrote:

Is the locker service live? I have a bunch of fairly obscure Mp3s that I cannot play with Rdio or other streaming services.

I dont' think that will be available until sometime in 2013.