91-year-old gets 5 years in prison for helping to kill 28,000 Jews

LobsterMobster wrote:

You're right, Slinger, he didn't personally kill anyone. No one's ever died from a bullet either; it's the bleeding and internal trauma that gets you. Now I'm sorry that you disapprove of the German court's standards but Germany doesn't. You can send him a letter and tell him that you think he's innocent and I'm sure it'll really comfort him in his final days (he can get mail in prison, right?).

Maybe I'm a bit biased about this but how I see it, he stood by and watched 28,000 innocent people get systematically murdered, and I don't want to lean on this too much but I've got some blood in this fight. I hope you'll forgive me if I don't have much sympathy for the people who kept the death camps running. So yeah, maybe there are some irregularities here and maybe this guy didn't put a gun to anyone's head, but don't act like he's some innocent soldier who was just doing his job. Five years with a quiet death of old age is a holiday compared to what he not only allowed to happen, but took up arms to protect.

Ultimately it doesn't matter what you or I think. In your case, that sucks for him. In my case, he's lucky. Let's leave it at that.

Lobster, he was a POW. You act like he had any choice in the matter. His fellow Russian soldiers were also systematically murdered by the Germans so he had first-hand knowledge of what doing anything but going with the flow would be. I'm glad you think you'd take the moral high road and get yourself shot, but history has shown that people tend to do whatever they have to to survive.

I mean there are confirmed cases of both Jews and Russians eating their fellow humans to stay alive during the war. I'm not about to pass moral judgement on their actions in their most desperate hour as I sit in safety and security eating a delicious turkey sandwich. They did what they had to.

All I can do is be happy that he's going to die outside of prison and in another few years there won't be anyone alive for a lawyer to make his bones on by prosecuting them for something that happened nearly 70 years ago.

Just because he had no choice doesn't mean it was right. He did have a choice. There is always a choice. Do you know how many Jews fled the country to avoid the camps? Were they supposed to stay there and die because they had no choice? Because they were asked nicely not to run? Those Jews and Russians who ate people? They survived, but they also still ate someone.

I probably wouldn't take the moral high road, but I'd like to believe that when all was said and done, I'd face the consequences of my actions. How about you, Slinger?