Chris Rodda gives away her book on religious revisionist American history

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And Archie Bunker would sing "We need a man like Aaron Burr again..."?

Yonder wrote:
Robear wrote:

Exactly, Funken. The whole push and pull with the Federalists, the Whigs and others didn't even resolve for nearly 50 years. Heck, when I was kid, the message was "Wow, look at how different the Founders were, and yet they all worked together". Now it's "Historians are mistaken; the Founders were _____ and that's all there is to it", where _____ is a distinctly modern political theory that the Founders would not even recognize.

I like to imagine bringing the founders back so they could challenge the revisionists to duels and shoot them with 250 year old pistols.

Just wanted to mention, Jefferson has friends who shot people who mocked their president, just saying.

Damn, Robear beat me to it.

Robear wrote:

Exactly, Funken. The whole push and pull with the Federalists, the Whigs and others didn't even resolve for nearly 50 years. Heck, when I was kid, the message was "Wow, look at how different the Founders were, and yet they all worked together".

My high school didn't spend a lot of time early American history. Some of that stuff got cut to make way for more social and minority history. So we got just the barest of outlines.

And when I went to college in the early 1980s, it was not considered a really fashionable area to study unless maybe it was done from a marxist point of view. So the revisionist conservative historians were largely left to their own devices to create a new history for consumption by mainstream audiences who wanted the Founders to fit into the mold of a homogenous group favoring Providence and the free market.

Am I the only one who remembers when many young college professors were all fascinated by marxism? I don't know what happened to them all. Maybe they all moved on to deconstructing history.

I think it was part of the waning cold war and the end of the Red Scare. It became something one could study without drawing undue attention or scrutiny from Hoover.

And when I went to college in the early 1980s, it was not considered a really fashionable area to study unless maybe it was done from a marxist point of view. So the revisionist conservative historians were largely left to their own devices to create a new history for consumption by mainstream audiences who wanted the Founders to fit into the mold of a homogenous group favoring Providence and the free market.

I think that latter movement was greatly influenced by the "Lost Hope" school and methods of Confederate history.

Am I the only one who remembers when many young college professors were all fascinated by marxism? I don't know what happened to them all. Maybe they all moved on to deconstructing history.

God no. I went to a very liberal school, and we had more than our share of overtly Marxist professors in the early 80's. They were pretty ridiculous viewed from the outside, though - it was becoming obvious that the whole "Soviet Experiment" was a massive, horrific failure and I think many of them knew they were staring at the end of that doctrine. Many of them were into the Cuban model; it was too early for serious change in the Maoist model, so the Carribean style of island socialism was what they mostly studied.

And yes, Derrida was big with these folks, which is one way I knew they had gone completely off the reservation.

The marxists at my university in the 1980s weren't revolutionaries. Instead they used a marxist system of analysis to analyze history and social policies. After seeing the way income disparity is growing in the United States and the type of society that an ideology based on the godlike powers of capitalism has created, I'm probably more willing to listen to them now than I was then.

I had a Marxist philosophy professor as an undergrad. He walked around campus in his fur Russian army hat, and I took a Marxism class from him as a senior. It was filled with wannabe Marxist kids. It was just a trainwreck of socialist fanboyism, and about a year later the Berlin Wall came down. I would have loved to have been in his class for that.

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