GWJ2STAR 3.0 - Week 8

Welcome to Week 8!

The big game this week features SMU traveling north to face off against Buffalo. Counselor, I'm not sure when I will be avaialble. This weekend looks bad, as my daughter has a band concert followed by the band going to Six Flags. And, well, Sunday in Mother's Day. So hopefully we can find a time next week.

=============== Buffalo Bulls (3-3) ===============
Last week, Buffalo won 34-31 against Bowling Green (0-4).
This week, the Bulls will host SMU (3-3).
In recruiting news, the following Buffalo targets have announced their decisions:
- (***) C Clint Cook has committed to Southern Miss
- (***) C Bryson Hicks has committed to Houston
- (***) DT Andrew Jamison has committed to Utah
- (***) LE Courtney Moore has committed to BYU

=============== Eastern Michigan Eagles (4-3) ===============
Last week, Eastern Michigan lost 35-14 against Northern Illinois (4-1).
This week, the Eagles travel to Athens to face the Ohio Bobcats (2-4).
In recruiting news, the following Eastern Michigan targets have announced their decisions:
- (***) DT Marcus Horne has committed to Boston College
- (***) LT Cory Wood has committed to Illinois
- (***) RG Brady Moore has committed to Kentucky
- (***) CB Martin Brooks has committed to Central Michigan
- (***) CB Joseph Barnett has committed to Syracuse
- (***) MLB Kyle Ross has committed to Central Michigan

=============== Marshall Thundering Herd (3-3) ===============
Last week, Marshall lost 37-36 against UAB (4-2).
This week, the Thundering Herd are idle.
In recruiting news, the following Marshall targets have announced their decisions:
- (**) LE Luke Temple has committed to Virginia
- (***) WR Eric Davis has committed to Bowling Green
- (***) WR Ray Lee has committed to Bowling Green
- (**) CB Antonio Brant has committed to Temple
- (**) SS Cameron Rogers has committed to Connecticut
- (***) RG Ryan Blair has committed to Marshall

=============== Northern Illinois Huskies (4-1) ===============
Last week, Northern Illinois won 35-14 against Eastern Michigan (4-3).
This week, the Huskies travel to Murfreesboro to face the Mid Tenn State Blue Raiders (5-1).
In recruiting news, the following Northern Illinois targets have announced their decisions:
- (***) LOLB Ray Brant has committed to Northern Illinois

=============== San Diego State Aztecs (3-3) ===============
Last week, San Diego State won 42-7 against Air Force (3-3).
This week, the Aztecs will host Wyoming (1-5).
In recruiting news, the following San Diego State targets have announced their decisions:
- (***) LE Courtney Morris has committed to Fresno State
- (***) DT Greg Cooper has committed to Hawai'i

=============== SMU Mustangs (3-3) ===============
Last week the Mustangs were idle.
This week, the Mustangs travel to Buffalo to face the Buffalo Bulls (3-3).
In recruiting news, the following SMU targets have announced their decisions:
- (****) WR Kevin Smith has committed to Baylor

=============== UTEP Miners (2-5) ===============
Last week, UTEP lost 55-21 against Tulane (1-5).
This week, the Miners travel to Houston to face the Houston Cougars (4-0).
In recruiting news, the following UTEP targets have announced their decisions:
- (***) C Tyler Johnson has committed to Utah
- (**) P Tony Fisher has committed to Colorado State
- (****) WR Kevin Smith has committed to Baylor
- (***) LG Clint Henry has committed to Texas A&M

Geez, Marshall is doing a better job recruiting than when I was controlling them!!

EMU overcomes Aaron Rodgers Jr's first half(First half - 17-24, 200 yards, 3TDs, second half - 2-14 0TDs) to win.

Down 24-3 going into halftime, Coach O'Grady pulls 2 year starter Devontae Payne in favor of true freshman J.J. Givens and the move sparked the Eagles. 17-21 312 yards and 3TDs later, EMU pulls off a 27-24 victory. Nick "Hands of Glue" Olds had 16 catches for 292 yards and 3 TDs including the game winning 65 yard TD catch.

I need to eek out as many of these wins as possible. I am missing my two biggest offensive weapons for the season.

NIU wins another, defeating MTSU 24-6. MTSU was 5-1 coming into the game, but they're really awful. Makes me wonder who they've played! They amassed 335 yards of offense, but 342 of that was in the passing game. Yes, they had -7 yards rushing. To be fair, that's largely due to the 7 sacks they allowed (my DE was player of the game with 3 of those). They also gave up 4 fumbles...they dropped several more but were able to recover those.

My offense was good enough, with 166 yards passing and 133 yards rushing. Their QB was 28-48 with 1 TD. Neither team scored in the second half. I'm not sure why I couldn't put it into the endzone, but something kept me from it.

I uploaded the very last play of the game to demonstrate how badly MTSU played today. As time expired they completed a medium-length pass. However, as their WR was getting his YAC on, my safety laid him out, causing a fumble, which NIU recovered. Good times...for NIU.

What's good for you, Jay?

Wyoming (1-6) was much more difficult than I expected, but I was able to win by 8. I uploaded a kickoff return for a TD (100 yards) to start the 2nd half. Those don't happen for me much anymore!

TheCounselor wrote:

What's good for you, Jay?

A lot of times will work. My best times are during the day and after 10 pm CST. I can make some time in the evening, but I have to schedule it with the wife.

Calling all Counselors!

Tonight and Thursday night are bad, as some school functions for my daughter to attend.

What time can you do Wednesday or Friday night?

I am free after 9:00 or 9:30 Wednesday, and Friday night is pretty open.

Man, wish I could watch that game...come on, EA: get a spectator mode for NCAA!

Agreed

Also, Jayhawker: Please beat Buffalo/Counselor. I don't want to see them again in the MAC championship game (should I make it that far). That last game was too heart pounding for me to want to go through it again.

Also, what's with the MAC East? The top two teams are Miami at 2-4 (2-0 in conference) and Buffalo at 3-3 (3-1). Buffalo will get far better now that Counselor is past playing the major teams out-of-conference. But where's his competition? Ohio is third at 2-5.

By contrast, this is the MAC West:

Toledo 5-1 (3-0), NIU 5-1 (3-0), Central Michigan 4-1 (2-0), Eastern Michigan 5-3 (3-2), Western Michigan 3-3 (1-3). It looks like we may have 5 bowl eligibles from the West. The East? That's shadier.

(Incidentally, I could see myself losing to Toledo and CMU. Toledo beat Leroy's EMU...that scares me. Then, of course, there's Kansas in Week 14!)

Looks like we are going to kick-off in about 40 minutes.

I'm not sure I can help you, Firesloth. Even if I win, it won't count against his conference standings. But I would feel better if I had Zach Line going for me. That kid is a beast. I would have loved a Line versus Potts match-up.

*edit* So I just looked and saw that Potts is out for him. so it will be a battel of the back-ups. But my back-up is a 66 OVR freshman, while he is rolling out an 87 OVR Junior. Not fair!

Counselor put the beatdown on me 24-14. It was never really that close.

I did get as close as 17-14, but really, I just could not count on stopping his offense on a consistent basis. If I could have kept running the ball, I had a chance. But Padron threw way to the wrong guys too often, and a comeback was not to be.

I am rolling the league as I type this.

Good game, Jayhawker.

You did run the ball on me fairly easily. I seemed to be able to get a stop when necessary, though.

TheCounselor wrote:

Good game, Jayhawker.

You did run the ball on me fairly easily. I seemed to be able to get a stop when necessary, though.

Yeah, you really did. Too bad EA went down and wouldn't let us upload our game details and highlights. That play action pass you threw for TD was pretty cool. I had tried to upload the Broadcast version, as it highlighted my DB biting on the run, leaving your WR wide freaking open for an easy catch.

It was a crazy game, as I had five sacks and seemed to put enough pressure on the QB to stop him, only to see him escape and hit receivers when he really needed it.

The key was your ability to stall my drives in the firs half. Down 17-0 was too much.

That wraps up a 0-4 non-conference for me.

That's the first time I've ever had a play action pass work that well. Usually, I have a 300 pound, angry man tearing my QB's arm off and chewing on it immediately after the fake.

I'm very weary of PA Pass as well.

TheCounselor wrote:

That's the first time I've ever had a play action pass work that well. Usually, I have a 300 pound, angry man tearing my QB's arm off and chewing on it immediately after the fake.

Irregardless of what sliders you use this is always a problem with play action passes in NCAA. The defensive linemen don't seem to "stay home" on running plays. Fake or otherwise.

DSGamer wrote:
TheCounselor wrote:

That's the first time I've ever had a play action pass work that well. Usually, I have a 300 pound, angry man tearing my QB's arm off and chewing on it immediately after the fake.

Irregardless of what sliders you use this is always a problem with play action passes in NCAA. The defensive linemen don't seem to "stay home" on running plays. Fake or otherwise.

Agreed. Even when you have the play "Setup!" you have to be ready to throw as soon as possible

DSGamer wrote:
TheCounselor wrote:

That's the first time I've ever had a play action pass work that well. Usually, I have a 300 pound, angry man tearing my QB's arm off and chewing on it immediately after the fake.

Irregardless of what sliders you use this is always a problem with play action passes in NCAA. The defensive linemen don't seem to "stay home" on running plays. Fake or otherwise.

It's not tuned well at all, sliders or no. But the mechanic to make it work is in the code. It needs to be improved a ton.

This was obvious when the Broadcast highlight showed the fake handoff, then cut to my DB moving forward, then trying to stop and get back, finally cutting to a wide open WR.

On this play, it was the only time during the game in which I actually guessed pre-snap. So maybe that helped make it work. I mostly quit guessing run, becasue if you guess correctly, but pick the wrong option, as far as middle, left, or right, then you still get killed. I use the guess pass quite a bit.

But Counselor mixed it up well enough to keep me from even doing that. He had a good gameplan.

But the sliders as they are seem to be the best balance I have played in any football game in a long time. I'm doing an offline Kansas dynasty, and despite being 8-1, having loss to Georgia tech, I've had a nice mix of dominating and challenging wins over weak foes. tough opponents are brutally played games in which every snap seems to matter.

If anything, they might be too easy. But as soon as I think that, as school like Iowa State scares the crap out of me. I'm pretty scared of what Nebraska will do.

Mainly, you have to really learn to play to your team's strengths. And with some of the 2 Star schools, they don't actually have any.

BREAKING NEWS IN YPSILANTI MICHIGAN!!!!!!

Starting QB Devontae Payne has been benched in favor of true freshman J.J. Givens. After struggling the last 4 games, Payne has allowed Givens to outperform him and take the starting job. Can Givens salvage the season and get EMU to a bowl? This coach thinks so.

It seems like PA can work *if* the defense isn't blitzing. If there's any blitz at all, you're toast with the PA pass...the blitzers pay no attention to the RB, and the QB takes so long to go through that animation that he just gets crushed. (It also seems like they're better able to get through the O-line on PA passes, for some reason.)

I think if they adjusted how blitzers react to the fake hand-off, the PA could be a bit more of an option. They might have to tune down how strongly secondary players bite on the run to make it balanced.

Leroyog wrote:

BREAKING NEWS IN YPSILANTI MICHIGAN!!!!!!

Starting QB Devontae Payne has been benched in favor of true freshman J.J. Givens. After struggling the last 4 games, Payne has allowed Givens to outperform him and take the starting job. Can Givens salvage the season and get EMU to a bowl? This coach thinks so.

Well, you only need one more win in four tries to get into a bowl, so I wouldn't be surprised if you get into the Detroit Bowl or some such! I imagine it'll be an even better destination.

firesloth wrote:

It seems like PA can work *if* the defense isn't blitzing. If there's any blitz at all, you're toast with the PA pass...the blitzers pay no attention to the RB, and the QB takes so long to go through that animation that he just gets crushed. (It also seems like they're better able to get through the O-line on PA passes, for some reason.)

I think if they adjusted how blitzers react to the fake hand-off, the PA could be a bit more of an option. They might have to tune down how strongly secondary players bite on the run to make it balanced.

Last year, in the Chiefs second game against the Broncos, they hit on the fact that every pass play the Broncos run was play action. So they soon were rushing Orton and ignoring the HB altogether. They proceeded to brutalize them like an EA football game.

But yeah, they just need to tie a players awareness of play recognition to reacting to a fake hand-off, even on a blitz. But when you consider all of the variable, it is a prety hard thing to balance and not have it become a money play. You have factor in how often it is used, how many runs were used to set-up the play action, and factor in when the user predicts pass.

Or they could install 3D grass. You know, whatever sells the game.

The one thing that kills me about Madden/NCAA is that they don't use the same ratings for QB. Madden has Short, Mid, and Long ball accuracy as well as PA and Throw on the run ability. NCAA has passing accuracy. Why have they not gotten together to make these more compatible.

Leroyog wrote:

The one thing that kills me about Madden/NCAA is that they don't use the same ratings for QB. Madden has Short, Mid, and Long ball accuracy as well as PA and Throw on the run ability. NCAA has passing accuracy. Why have they not gotten together to make these more compatible.

Yeah, I'd really like to see the multiple accuracy ratings included in NCAA. Although, I'd be happy if Madden was able to produce a game that played half as fun as NCAA. Then I might just switch over.