NBA 2010-11 Regular Season and Playoffs!

The depressing thing is that part of the rationale of why we (Blazers) passed over Durant is because we had Roy. Meanwhile Roy has no cartilage in his knees. He's bone on bone. Durant sure would be nice right about now.

So, in the last 5 games, Michael Beasley is averaging almost 33 points. Kevin Love is averaging 21 points and 16 rebounds. I realize that, Atlanta aside, the teams they've played have been bad but if they keep this up I might actaully start watching again.

iaintgotnopants wrote:

So, in the last 5 games, Michael Beasley is averaging almost 33 points. Kevin Love is averaging 21 points and 16 rebounds. I realize that, Atlanta aside, the teams they've played have been bad but if they keep this up I might actaully start watching again.

It's pretty exciting. I love surprise teams and I love comebacks. Michael Beasley getting traded for nothing to make way for Bosh, only to have a better year than Bosh would be an awesome storyline.

Spurs have won 8 in a row. Maybe they're not quite as old as everyone thought.

DSGamer wrote:

Michael Beasley getting traded for nothing to make way for Bosh ...

Huh?

Stele wrote:

Spurs have won 8 in a row. Maybe they're not quite as old as everyone thought. ;)

I guess the wife-swapping going on really is helping them out.

maxox wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Michael Beasley getting traded for nothing to make way for Bosh ...

Huh?

Huh? Michael Beasley was traded for a second round pick to clear up those scraps of cap room to sign Bosh, Wade, James. Now look at Beasley.

DSGamer wrote:

Huh? Michael Beasley was traded for a second round pick to clear up those scraps of cap room to sign Bosh, Wade, James. Now look at Beasley.

Except it is widely regarded and reported that Beasley was traded to make cap room so the Heat could sign veteran free agents. The Heat already had the cap space for Bosh, Wade, James, Chalmers, and Beasley. Without getting rid of Beasley's contract they couldn't have signed Mike Miller, Eddie House, Udonis Haslem, etc. or anyone else for that matter.

I'm really confused as to why you're being so literal and picky about my choice of words. I understand how NBA rosters function. I've followed the sport since 1980. Yes, Beasley could have played with Bosh. On a team of 5 people. Therefore moving Beasley to get Bosh was necessary so they could fill the other roster spots. Are we square?

Another two weeks, another look at the standings

Boston and Orlando with 11-4 and 10-4 respectively, are starting to get a little division lead. Especially with Orlando beating the Heat tonight.

In the west, the Lakers are solid at 13-2, and surprisingly the old guys, aka the Spurs, are 13-1 and winners of 12 straight.

Heat on a 3 game slide, which brings me to the question of the week: how long until Pat Riley takes over as coach?

So apparently Griz backup center Hamed Haddadi and his lady were beatin' on each other. Brave lass to take on a dude that's 7'2".

That's not what really caught my eye though. What did, is her name. Goolnaz "Asal" Karbalaeinematmoeeney. Huh? Someone more cultured than me please explain the pronunciation.

So LeQuit bumped Spo on the way back to the bench in the loss to Dallas. Trying to intimidate him or embarrass him or something. Amazing how he's gone from beloved son of Ohio to angry, disgruntled questionable talent in Miami. I couldn't be happier. I think he wouldn't mind losing in the Eastern Conference Finals or NBA Finals at this point.

Pacers beat the Lakers last night.

Wow nothing like rooting for another team that is subject to reactionary vitriol.

DSGamer wrote:

...questionable talent...

C'mon. C'monnnn.

Blind_Evil wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

...questionable talent...

C'mon. C'monnnn.

I'm not saying LeBron sucks. However he's not who he says he is. He's not who he's billed. I happen to think that's mostly mental. Mostly psychological. However, either way he's not found his niche and he's not asserting himself in any manner. And he's taken to bullying his coach in public to make a statement. Not exactly an impressive model of composure. Someone today on another message board compared him to Dominique Wilkins. Flashy and exciting, but ultimately not going to lead a team in crunch time. I actually think that comparison is unfair to Nique. Nique at least did what he could with Atlanta for quite a long time, taking them deep in the playoffs with less raw talent than LeBron has.

And since ESPN has their own NBA channel on youtube, surely that belongs in this thread.

Here's a couple of the new ones for this season.

And finally...

This one might be the funniest thing I've ever seen:

Those are funny, but this is the funniest thing this NBA season.

God, so awkward. Solid gold trio baby! Ugh....

Hey, question. How many games does a player need to play to be eligible for the MVP award?

Blind_Evil wrote:

God, so awkward. Solid gold trio baby! Ugh....

Hey, question. How many games does a player need to play to be eligible for the MVP award?

I think that's why a lot of us had issues with "The Decision" and then the pre-Championship rally. That kind of Hubris is hard to watch and the unreal expectations are almost a recipe for failure.

Man all everyone is talking about is Thurs night. Extra police, t-shirt censorship, it's going to be a madhouse in Cleveland.

So it begins... LeBron did the chalk thing. Oh boy.

I don't watch a lot of basketball, but I'm watching this.

Cleveland hasn't scored a point since I turned it on...14 straight for Miami and counting.

Yeah sadly Cleveland just isn't very good.

Miami isn't really either. I think the stats I saw yesterday was something like, out of their 10-8 record, they were 9-1 against teams below .500 and 1-7 against teams above .500. So they really are a middle of the road team so far, right where their record shows them.

Slightly above average, but not on the level with L.A., San Antonio, Utah, OKC, Dallas, New Oreleans, Oralndo, or Boston, all teams with 6 or less losses and winning 2/3 of their games or better. Maybe Denver or Atlanta too, just below that.

They have two players who play the EXACT same position and role. They probably should have discussed that before taking their talents to South Beach.

DSGamer wrote:

They have two players who play the EXACT same position and role. They probably should have discussed that before taking their talents to South Beach.

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Role I can see, but Lebron has traditionally been a forward and Dwyane a guard. Also a 4 inch height difference.

That said, I think the Heat would probably be better with just Wade and Bosh, plus a stronger supporting cast. Giving Joel Anthony and Jamaal Magloire significant playing time isn't gonna cut it when the Lakers, Celtics and Thunder are better 8 and 9 deep.

I think the Heat will find a groove eventually and ring off 18/20. Not so sure that their current formula makes for postseason success, though.

Also, considering Lebron's hubris, I wouldn't be surprised if he compared their pairing to that of Jordan and Pippen, two similar guys who found a little bit of success.

Well, Wade is a SG, and Lebron is a SF, but yeah, they play very similar roles of guys who can dribble/penetrate/get to the line. That's both of their games, and neither is a stellar spot up shooter who can get open off of screens (a la Ray Allen). They don't seem to have the players to set those off-ball screens either.
Not that they're bad shooters, but they're both amazing at driving and causing the defense to collapse/scramble. Every team needs at least one of those guys to be competitive, but we haven't seen what its like when you have two, let alone two of the best in the league, on the same team.

I think they do figure it out, but it is going to take a while longer. They are too good not to, and their egos are completely wrapped up in this. They gave up a significant amount of money to play together.
I think back to the 2008 Olympics where Kobe was willing to play the role of defensive stopper and channel his energy on that end. He was still ready to step up and play the cold-blooded assassin when the team needed that. Maybe Wade and Lebron just need a little more maturity before they figure out how to adjust their roles. Younger Kobe (pre-2006/2007) would not have been nearly as willing to adjust. Some of that just comes with time.

Blind_Evil wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

They have two players who play the EXACT same position and role. They probably should have discussed that before taking their talents to South Beach.

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Role I can see, but Lebron has traditionally been a forward and Dwyane a guard. Also a 4 inch height difference.

You're joking, right? You have played basketball before, right? Organized? The difference between a small forward who plays most with the ball in his hands in isolation sets and a guard who plays most with the ball in his hands in isolation sets is completely semantic. Scottie Pippen was a point guard or a shooting guard. Being called a "small forward" meant nothing.

If either LeBron or Wade had a jumper even close to Ray Allen then, yes, it would matter. But for all practical purposes they're both wings with the exact same skillset. I remember when I played in high school we ran an offense that was essentially a PG, two wings and two posts. It didn't matter who was the SG and who was the SF. It didn't matter who was the C and who was the PF. In fact, in the program our positions would be Guard (G), Wing (W), Post (P). Guard meant you were a primary ball handler. Wing meant you were a SG or SF. Post meant you played down low. Otherwise your rolls were interchangeable.

Blind_Evil wrote:

That said, I think the Heat would probably be better with just Wade and Bosh, plus a stronger supporting cast. Giving Joel Anthony and Jamaal Magloire significant playing time isn't gonna cut it when the Lakers, Celtics and Thunder are better 8 and 9 deep.

That's just it. To me it's the football equivalent of spending half of your cap space on a QB and a backup QB and not bothering to get a good Left Tackle. I never saw it. And I really don't see it now. They'd be much better off with one less redundant player and better role players. I say if this doesn't work this year Wade is gone in exchange for a slew of role players.

Blind_Evil wrote:

I think the Heat will find a groove eventually and ring off 18/20. Not so sure that their current formula makes for postseason success, though.

Also, considering Lebron's hubris, I wouldn't be surprised if he compared their pairing to that of Jordan and Pippen, two similar guys who found a little bit of success.

Actually, that's the only way I saw this working. If LeBron decided to play the "Pippen role" it could work. But he'd have to change his mindset and focus a lot on rebounding, defense and passing.

Lebron is better than Wade. As soon as everyone on the team accepts that and starts playing and coaching like it, they'll click and start rolling.