a Republican majority has already shown it is willing to ignore the law to further a partisan agenda.
Sometimes God's will requires pissing on the law. While choking a Female Doggo.
Wow, the whole scene out there is really messed up. Sad thing is I am sure the state is being use as a testing ground of a strategy that will be employed elsewhere.
Pfft Michigan's GOP was f*cking the dog before it was cool.
This is such a depressing illustration of what it looks like when Fascism moves into your neighborhood. Good luck, Wisconsinites.
Wow. Good luck, WI folks. I have no idea how you fight the good fight here.
It's not a coup, since it doesn't involve military force, so what do you call it when a political party takes power, and then changes the rules so that it can't lose power again?
Typically, a coup d'état uses the extant government's power to assume political control of the country. In Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook, military historian Edward Luttwak says, "A coup consists of the infiltration of a small, but critical, segment of the state apparatus, which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder", thus, armed force (either military or paramilitary) is not a defining feature of a coup d'état.
Are you referring to the same GAB that dragged their feet when reviewing ruling on recall petitions against Democrats after already setting election days for the Republicans being recalled? The same GAB that ruled against Nygren being a candidate in one of those elections? Oh yeah, they sound like they are definitely in the bag for the GOP.
Post when you have some actual facts. Something more than "scattered reports of shenanigans". Then you will at least have some basis for making accusations. This is just more of the same GOP witch hunt.
MattDaddy, given what you're seeing in Wisconsin, you can't seriously still support them, can you? Seriously?
I don't get all the whining by Democrats about the redistricting plans. No one is taking away anyone's right to vote. Why not make districts that are cohesive rather than bitterly divided? Most of the new areas make more sense looking at the maps and understanding who makes up those areas.
The Racine/Kenosha area will get broken down into a mainly Republican district and a mainly Democratic district instead of two mixed ones. What is wrong with that? Isn't it better to have a district represented by someone who is liked by the majority instead of one that may be liked by half and hated by the other half?
The only reason for the uproar that makes sense is that it's the GOP majority making the decisions, therefore the Democrat minority automatically must cry foul about it. You'd think they were planning on creating 20 new GOP districts while gathering all the Democrats in a single district of their own based on some of the ranting going on in opposition to it.
In case you didn't read the linked article, there is unrefuted testimony by the staff of the Legislative Reference Bureau that Senator Fitzgerald did lean on their office to release 2011 Wisconsin Act 10 on their website, laying the foundation for GOP claims that the act was published and should already be in effect. I don't think it's unreasonable (or a witch hunt) to want to know the details of an election-day rule change by the GAB (if that report turns out to be true, a caveat I noted in the original post).
Which has absolutely nothing to do with your unsound accusation. An investigation is fine (if the report even turns out to be true), but for you to say they need to start with Fitzgerald is a witch hunt. You admit that you don;t even know if the report is true and yet you're ready to "start with Fitzgerald".
Nygren failed to gather the 400 valid signatures to obtain a place on the ballot. The fact that Nygren only gathered 424 signatures total, giving him a razor-thin margin of error, is not the fault of anyone outside the Nygren campaign.
I never said it was. The fact they ruled against him shows they aren't in the tank for the GOP as you inferred in your prior post.
Edit: To clarify: I never said Nygren's campaign was not at fault. What matters in my argument is that the GAB ruled against him.
Also some folks are now reporting robocalls from a northern Virginia number telling them to use absentee ballots (except, of course, the deadline for absentee ballots has already expired and anyone following these directions will not have their vote counted).
As noted before, it's too early to know the details about these allegations. MattDaddy, can we agree that (if true), attempting to trick people into not having their votes counted is a bad thing?
You need to be very careful with this story, and make sure you check sources and get verification. Everything I've seen reported on this so far sources the same blog post from a single blog.
My mom, who was a political operative for years, says that she's heard this exact same story before, more than once.
I'm disgusted at what the Republican party is doing in Wisconsin, but be careful to check your facts.
This is what I'd actually said:
Dimmerswitch wrote:If that report is true, I want to see an investigative report about whose idea the rule change was, and what process was followed to rush through the change. I'd start with Senator Fitzgerald, who we already know is willing to lean on government agencies to try to force through his political agenda.
I said I would start with Senator Fitzgerald because there is testimony that he exerted inappropriate political pressure on other governmental agencies to further his political agenda. It's a bit of a stretch to characterize that as a witch hunt. There's not even an accusation there, unfounded or otherwise.
Nowhere in that article are the words "inappropriate" or "pressure" mentioned. It also wasn't his political agenda, but a bill passed by the senate he was pushing to get published. One the secretary of state should have published himself. Instead, he chose to make his position political by holding off publication for no reason other than to give the Democrats time to find Sumi and have her hold things up (temporarily, as it was passed later in the budget).
To say "start with Fitzgerald" without any reason to do so other than some unrelated issue you have with him is what I would classify a witch hunt.
If you don't believe that to be inappropriate pressure, I don't expect that any behavior by our state's GOP will ever meet your criteria.
I didn't state what I believed about it one way or the other.
It doesn't matter what I believe about that scenario. Using that as the sole reason to start with him as part of some (at this point non-existent) investigation into the GAB decision would be unfair.
So because I don't agree with using a rumored story as an opportunity to bash Fitzgerald that it makes me a stalwart defender of him?
I think it's pretty laughable to take "He's used inappropriate pressure before, and if an investigation happens I'd want to make sure these changes weren't also made at his behest" and characterize that as a witch hunt. :)
But you didn't word it that way. You used an unverified report and said they should "start" with him, as if he should be the #1 suspect in any investigation. That, plus the other posts by you that use rumors you find on the internet as a way trying to insinuate that the GOP is up to evil things is what led to the witch hunt tag, laughable as that may be to you.
At this time, the Milwaukee Journal is calling four of the six primaries for the real Democrats running with the other two leading by comfortable margins. Here are the numbers as of 7:45 PM PDT:
State Senate - District 2 - Dem Primary
Wisconsin - 83 of 90 Precincts Reporting - 92%
Nusbaum , Nancy 13,360 65%
Junkermann , Otto 7,142 35%
State Senate - District 8 - Dem Primary
Wisconsin - 55 of 77 Precincts Reporting - 71%
Pasch , Sandra 16,174 67%
Huber , Gladys 8,128 33%
State Senate - District 10 - Dem Primary
Wisconsin - 92 of 110 Precincts Reporting - 84%
Moore , Shelly 14,626 54%
Weix , Isaac 12,426 46%
State Senate - District 14 - Dem Primary
Wisconsin - 124 of 128 Precincts Reporting - 97%
Clark , Fred 14,879 67%
Church , Rol 7,203 33%
State Senate - District 18 - Dem Primary
Wisconsin - 94 of 110 Precincts Reporting - 85%
King , Jessica 17,410 68%
Buckstaff , John 8,138 32%
State Senate - District 32 - Dem Primary
Wisconsin - 99 of 119 Precincts Reporting - 83%
Shilling , Jennifer 14,171 70%
Smith , James 5,979 30%
Milwaukee Journal now calling all races for the real Democrats running in the primaries.
The updating numbers can be found here: http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepo...
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