iRacing catch-all

My wheel came today and I spent just 5 minutes with it on the track before being convinced that it was a worthy purchase. On Lanier in the Legends ford, I've dropped from 18.5xx to 16.4xx (through my first 10 laps with the wheel). The pedal control is simply amazing. And yeah, I know the pedals are supposed to be crap. The application of gas is so much smoother than what I had before so the tail doesn't want to kick out like before.

Jeff, you had mentioned you had a good set of settings for it. What have you done setting-wise?

DonD wrote:

My wheel came today and I spent just 5 minutes with it on the track before being convinced that it was a worthy purchase. On Lanier in the Legends ford, I've dropped from 18.5xx to 16.4xx (through my first 10 laps with the wheel). The pedal control is simply amazing. And yeah, I know the pedals are supposed to be crap. The application of gas is so much smoother than what I had before so the tail doesn't want to kick out like before.

Jeff, you had mentioned you had a good set of settings for it. What have you done setting-wise?

Don, congrats on the new wheel setup, it can make a huge difference. Here are my settings in windows control panel:

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and the in-sim settings:

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Some notes:

In the windows CP settings, those force feedback settings are personal preference. You might want to play with the numbers. The centering SPRING setting is very much a preference thing. Some people want it turned off entirely. I like the resistance it adds when turning.

In the sim, ignore my brake force curve factor setting of 0.0, that is for load cell brakes. Yours are potentiometer, and I'd suggest 1.8 to start, which is probably where they are if you haven't changed it. Your wheel lock range may vary. I think it's supposed to be somewhere close to 900.

I highly recommend the shifter. It's fun and very natural. I push up to upshift, and pull back to downshift.

Let us know how your lap times are improving!

I'm seeing lots of new personal bests with my new pedals.

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Jeff-66 wrote:

In the sim, ignore my brake force curve factor setting of 0.0, that is for load cell brakes.

Is that what you found? Obviously I misunderstood that setting and the difference between a pot and a load cell. I am glad to hear it is working well.

First race down. Totally clean..except some guy plowed into me in warmup, and another hit me on pit lane after the race was over.

Fun times, but kind of scary on the short track.

2nd race clean as well, top 5 finish (out of 12, I believe). A much better race all around with no crashes until at least 1/2 way through the race when I was behind 2 guys battling back and forth for about 5 laps until the outside guy must have lagged/warped because I didn't see him get hit but then I saw his car fly into the air and land upside down. Another guy spun out later on.

My lap time is down to 16.0xx. The best guys I've run with are in the 15.5xx range. I can't quite get through a 40 lap race without being lapped near the end. I'm really happy with tonight's progress though. I have some official times posted, I ran clean races, and I'm getting closer to moving out of rookie. Halfway there, by the looks of it.

One more trick I found for Rookie drivers who wish to see what their iRating is, output your race results to CSV the option is in the top right corner of the Race Summary pages you can bring up, this will show you all the data in a spread sheet and includes the hidden iRating that you don't see normally until you are a class D driver.

Don I have the G25 and I think Jeff told me it has the same guts in the wheel as the DFGT, for oval racing I use 150/70 on spring/damper and 107% on overall with zero centering spring I don't check that box. In game I use effects strength set to 9 and brake pressure to 2.01. Jeff has new pedals that I guess you set them to zero so don't pay a lot of attention to that setting of his.

OK on Lanier in the legends cars at the end of each straight is a colored sign, on one it's green on the other I think it's black with a yellow one right after it, anyway if you back out of the throttle that early and make a late smooth arc to the bottom you can turn 15.9's and 16 flats with very little wheel input. Just remember as you put the power down coming off the corner to smoothly turn the wheel to the right to accelerate under control, you will sometimes feel as though you are drifting the car down the straight and it might catch the wall almost at the point of that conveniently colored track sign on the barrier where you back out and start all over again. I can't win a race since I'm in the top 2 splits all the time right now but if I drive a clean race I seem to finish mid pack 5th/6th yesterday. My TT is right at 16 flat for the 10 lap average and I could push that to a 15.8 if I really tried I believe.

I've seen guys drive in deeper up high and pitch the car sideways like a sprint car and drift all the way through the corner. They do the snap then the car shoots to the bottom and they drift around and then spin within 4 corners. In my top splits nobody did this move and the winners were running 15.7's and lower fast laps. I talked to an old real racer last night at work about that and he said it depended on the track if you would try to do that with a legends car but normally you don't do the drifting thing.

Oh and one more thing Warmup is a sucker bet and I try to coast around the track at the end and just exit from the apron without going to pit road. I tried to get an answer from the guys a couple races ago on if your tires stay warmed up for the start of the race after warmup or if that's just to warm up the driver, guys said they'd heard it both ways but I guess you could check tire temps at the end of the warmup and before the pace lap to see.

Edited to Add:

I use different settings for road racing on the wheel I just change spring/damper to 90/90 for road racing but it's all feel.

Well, I fired this up last night, and ouch... I think the wheel advocates are completely right, this is absolutely not friendly to using a game controller. I have no trouble with utilizing fine steering control in the Forza and GT games, but in iRacing I was unable to tune the analog stick to get anything better than gross steering control. Even worse, I was unable to get a mid-range set so that releasing the analog to its center position would zero out the steering axis.

Short version: don't bother with iRacing unless you have a steering wheel and pedals to use with it. I definitely plan to pick up a set in the future and will return to iRacing at that time.

iSpeed for iRacing (free)

Features (partial list):

* Shows best splits, comparison to best splits, and optimal lap times (thanks, Stephane).
* Shows time delta compared to best lap.
* Shows speed +/- compared to your best lap at this point on the track.
* Can show +/- speed and deltas for someone else's lap file.
* Can show statistics from another computer via the web interface.
* Can show statistics on your iPhone / iPad / similar.
* Lap Analyzer to compare your lap with others.
* Includes a "Datamart" with other people's lap files for you to download / compare with your own (23000+ laps available right now to compare yours against).
* Customizable split points, via the Lap Analyzer.
* Customizable "Trap Speed" points, via the Lap Analzyer.
* Voice announcements of Splits / Trap Speeds / Lap Times (via Windows Text To Speech)
* Can "Stay on top" of iRacing running in Windowed mode, although it's not shape-optimized for this.
* If iSpeed gets maximized when you don't want it to, just double-click anywhere in the upper user interface (on top of the splits is a reliable area). This will un-maximize.
* All data is automatically saved in your profile directory, iRacing\Telemetry. All "Best laps" are saved, so you can always go back to a previous best lap.
* Supports multiple lap types so your best lap and splits in Hotlap mode can be stored separately from your Race ones.
* Can load save files and looking at user input (brake, throttle, steering angle, gear), drive path, and speed. Since we always save your best laps, this makes it really easy to compare against someone else's laps.
* Works on Windows XP, Vista and Window 7, 32 and 64 bit versions.
* Can work as the iRPS proxy server.

Jeff-66 wrote:

iSpeed for iRacing (free)

Thanks Jeff! Great find.

Safety Rating is now about 3.5, so I should get promoted to D class at the end of the month..unless I can get it to 4 and get the instant promotion. Still working ovals exclusively. My last race, I could see 2 guys blinking in and out, so I left a bit of distance and tried not to get too close. One guy smacked the wall and drifted down the track..invisible. I never saw the contact, and I really didn't end up off of my line, but I was hit with a message of x4 contact. I thought maybe this was something I could protest, but then figured I'm in Rookie anyway, and I've otherwise been clean, so it shouldn't affect me much (except I only advanced my SR by .03 after the otherwise clean race).

Even though I want to get some Road progress in, Laguna Seca is giving me a devil of a time..I didn't have this much trouble with it before, but with this wheel, somehow I'm screwing up at least 1 corner on nearly every lap. I don't even feel confident enough to run an official practice or TT.

When I do get a clean lap, I'm about 1:56, which I know isn't great, but I think isn't too bad for all of the struggles I'm having. I think I'm going to just wait for the track to change and then see what I can do next week. In the meantime, I'm going to keep pushing on the ovals and see if I can get that promotion.

Don, unfortunately, iRacing is 'blind' to fault in accidents/contact. If some jackhole parks on the blindside of the corkscrew at Laguna then ambushes you, you still get a 4x incident. You can protest flagrant violations like that, but I think in most cases, contact is contact, and there's nothing you can do about it. It happens to everyone, but the good news is that once you get out of rookie, these incidents occur less, as there are less bad drivers.

As for Laguna, I might suggest trying both variations of the MX5 to see which you like better on that track. I drive the Roadster exclusively at Lime Rock, but found the Cup's gearing more suited to Laguna and me.

To get your SR up and get promoted, you can run Legends TT's all you want. It's easy to drive 100 clean laps on those short tracks. SR is a calculation of incidents per corner, and the incidents are weighted differently based on the race type. Full races are weighted at 1.0x, meaning you'll get full benefit (or full hit) to your SR there, but TT's I think are 0.5x or maybe even 0.33x, so while easier to drive, it's slower.

Also, on Laguna, watch lots of replays, and from several different camera angles. When viewing a replay, you can slow it down to half speed, or even slower, rewind, switch cameras, replay etc. The button on the far left of the playback bar is what controls the speed of playback. Also when watching, I like to look at the gas/brake inputs and steering rotation. Laguna is a very fun track when you get the hang of it.

If there is a good time today, we (as many that can) could jump into a practice session. That way we can help each other out on Laguna Seca. I am not the fastest, but I live right near the track so I have spent a ton of real and simulated time on that pavement. So, I have a few pointers. Maybe in return someone could help me out with turn 5. I would easily gain a second or more if I can figure that out; I have only screwed it up over 1K times I am sure.

So, a good time? PST?

I've been on and off all day. Finally felt good enough at Laguna Seca to run some time trials. I'm nowhere near fast enough to race..still at 1:56 lap times, but at least I'm clean. I know my braking points are too early, but..at least I can get around and since I can TT (instead of practice), I'm finally making slow progress on my license.

Jeff, i-racing should give you a commission. I've spent $300.00 in the last few days(2-year renewal+tracks+cars). Thanks for starting this catch-all, I probably would never have tried this sim without it. I probably never win a race, but it's just the feel of driving these cars that's amazing.

I came to realize that I had unlocked Street Stock cars by upping my SR over 3, so I jumped in and started practicing. For some odd reason, the web page interface shows Charlotte, so that's where I practiced. Then I went to qualify and *surprise*, I'm at South Boston. I took it slow around the track (first laps ever at this track), but at least got a qualifying time, then hit up practice, got a feel for the track and joined a race. To my surprise, my qualifying time put me in the 3 spot.

South Boston is so narrow that unless someone screws up, it's very hard to pass.

At the start, the car in 4th pulls out in front of me at turn 1, so I let him in to avoid wrecking, then follow for the next 20 or so laps. He finally screws up, going in too hot and riding high through the turn and I pull underneath and retake 3rd. We stay in that same order until the final lap when the #2 car tries to take over the top spot, but can't get cleanly by and taps the #1. The #1 wobbles but stays on line and #2 spins right in front of me. I slipped past and took 2nd.

Pretty fun track and pretty fun car.

I'm going to see what I can do about my qualifying time. I think the time I put up before was 18.9xx and in practice and TT I'm able to do 18.3xx consistently.

It's pretty clear you want to be out in front on this track.

In other news, my SR is up to 3.9 (oval). Getting closer..

DonD wrote:

I came to realize that I had unlocked Street Stock cars by upping my SR over 3, so I jumped in and started practicing. For some odd reason, the web page interface shows Charlotte, so that's where I practiced. Then I went to qualify and *surprise*, I'm at South Boston. I took it slow around the track (first laps ever at this track), but at least got a qualifying time, then hit up practice, got a feel for the track and joined a race. To my surprise, my qualifying time put me in the 3 spot.

FYI, this happens often on Monday during the track switch.

speeddokken wrote:

Jeff, i-racing should give you a commission. I've spent $300.00 in the last few days(2-year renewal+tracks+cars). Thanks for starting this catch-all, I probably would never have tried this sim without it. I probably never win a race, but it's just the feel of driving these cars that's amazing.

I'm right there with you. I'll likely never win a race, but love being out on the track. I buy tracks & cars that aren't in series I'm participating in, or that I'm even eligible to drive competitively, just for the sheer enjoyment of driving them. My two favorite 'power cars' are the Corvette C6R, and the Ford V8 Supercar, both of which are ridiculously fun.

@DonD, you may know this already, but on that street stock, you can change the gear ratio on 4th gear. You'll need to do this when you take it off the short tracks, else you'll be rev-limited to about 114 mph. reducing the ratio will get 4th gear up to over 140 mph.

@MisterStatic: the CSP's are *awesome*. After a week or so with them, I put the original DFGT pedals back on to compare the difference, and OMG - quick, hurry, fast, get the CSP's plugged back in The load cell braking is fantastic. I'm still too chicken to start on manual clutch yet though.

So glad to see these new converts, and that everyone is enjoying it as much as I am.

Me and speeddokken are in the same boat. Lots of $$ spent just to try out new cool stuff. I've been gravitating towards the Dallara Indy car and man it's a lot of fun, also, it's all part of my plan to get Danica to sleep with me.

That way I can roll up next to her and be like... "Yeah, I got one of those rides too", and she'll be all like, "yeah, well why don't we drive them back to my place and I'll show you my oogaba.."

But I digress.

See y'all out there!
Nyxs

Nyxs, I'll let Danica know of your interest when she wakes up. She's sleeping in late this morning after a, erm, busy night last night.

So, is there any any interest in a reserved private session this weekend? If so, I'll rent a 4 hour block and we can have some fun racing together privately if you guys are interested.

That sounds like a great idea. I should be free all weekend. I plan on taking a little motorcycle ride at some point (Like this)

However, that wouldn't stop me from running with everyone. What cars / track would we wanna race?

Jeff-66 wrote:

Nyxs, I'll let Danica know of your interest when she wakes up. She's sleeping in late this morning after a, erm, busy night last night.

So, is there any any interest in a reserved private session this weekend? If so, I'll rent a 4 hour block and we can have some fun racing together privately if you guys are interested.

I will join in, if it ends up in a good time slot. Of course, I know you are talking about Sunday because any reasonable Floridian Motorsports fan would be down at Sebring Friday and Saturday. Dude, you must trust me, don't miss an opportunity like that. I was so pissed I couldn't find a way to get out there this weekend.

MisterStatic wrote:

I will join in, if it ends up in a good time slot. Of course, I know you are talking about Sunday because any reasonable Floridian Motorsports fan would be down at Sebring Friday and Saturday. Dude, you must trust me, don't miss an opportunity like that. I was so pissed I couldn't find a way to get out there this weekend.

It'll have to be next year. I have a cruise coming up in 2 weeks, so the Sebring trip isn't really in the budget. Trust me, I'd love to go. Why don't you plan on coming out next March and we'll go together.

And what's a good time frame for you for the hosted session?

Nyxs Optare wrote:

What cars / track would we wanna race?

No idea. I'm open to whatever. My loot beyond the base pack is:

Corvette C6R
Ford V8 Supercar
Mustang F500RS
Skip Barber
Chevy Impala SS Class A NASCAR

Silverstone
Zandevoort
Road America
Road Atlanta
Mid-Ohio
SPA-Francorchamps
Daytona
Sebring
Watkins-Glen

Jeff-66 wrote:

It'll have to be next year. I have a cruise coming up in 2 weeks, so the Sebring trip isn't really in the budget. Trust me, I'd love to go. Why don't you plan on coming out next March and we'll go together.

Sounds good, next year I will be in Georgia on a temporary assignment so that just may work. BTW, They are showing ALMS on ESPN3 this year so you can watch Sebring online, or on your 360! But, you will need a hell of a subwoofer to replicate the C6 flying into turn 1.

Qualifying sessions are starting at 1455 Friday (EST)

12-hour race starts 1015 Saturday (EST)

On that note, why don't we race the C6 at Sebring? That is a good course to get used to that beast, since it is flat.

We can all start practicing now.

As far as my open time slots, here is what I could do (all times EST):

Saturday 1300-1700, 2000-Midnight
Sunday 1000-1400

I think, you can open it up to all cars. I wonder though, if I entered with say the Mustang, then wanted to switch to the Corvette, would that be allowed, or does the server 'see' me in the Mustang and that's all it will allow me to reconnect with? If we settle on one car, I'll try to get a nice setup or two downloaded and tested in case anyone is (like me) deficient in setting up the car.

Any of those tracks would be fine - I don't own Spa yet, but will probably get it before the weekend (IRS check came in). I do like the Daytona road course, but anything that's not an oval would be great.

oh... and, DANICA!

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I don't know how the hosted session works. I'll do some research on that today, and see if we can swap cars, tracks, etc.

I know some of us don't have the Vette (and won't buy it), but I'm sure in 4 hrs we can find some suitable combination for everyone. I would love to run the Vettes at Sebring, though. In fact I've been doing just that off & on for the past few days. Not very well I might add (2:13.5'ish). So fun, though.

Another really fun course is Road Atlanta, with all it's hills. I think the MX5's there would be great.

Ok, I'll look and see if I can't figure out how session hosting works, and report back.

A fixed MX-5 setup at Road Atlanta would not be half-bad, or Mid-Ohio.

I'm working Saturday, so I'm out.

With a clean race this morning, I got my SR up to 4 and I'm now a D class. $100 later and I have the next 2 cars and tracks for the ovals.

I had been doing some time trialing on the road circuit, and then felt ready to qualify. It was a shock to find other cars on the track, and it threw me. 2 incidents on the first lap, so I dropped the idea of qualifying at Lime Rock for now. I think I need to run some practice at that track to get used to navigating traffic (both passing and being passed).

DonD wrote:

I'm working Saturday, so I'm out.

With a clean race this morning, I got my SR up to 4 and I'm now a D class. $100 later and I have the next 2 cars and tracks for the ovals.

I had been doing some time trialing on the road circuit, and then felt ready to qualify. It was a shock to find other cars on the track, and it threw me. 2 incidents on the first lap, so I dropped the idea of qualifying at Lime Rock for now. I think I need to run some practice at that track to get used to navigating traffic (both passing and being passed).

I saw you signed up to Qualify and jumped in to watch but by the time I found the right session you had disconnected already. I seem to be developing a schedule where I drive and race ovals the first half of the week then road racing the last half of the week. I'm going to start warming up for the Nvidia Cup LRP race tomorrow, most likely run 1 or 2 of them on Friday then it's back to work on the skippy for the weekend.