2010/11 Soccer Thread - Hitting The Home Stretch

Or before.

Van der Vaart's transfer confirmed, even though it was after the deadline.

RM swore blind it was done on time, they must have really wanted him off the premises. Some of the details seem a bit odd though - originally offered to Bayern at 18m, then they ring Daniel Levy up at 4 to say 'we'll take 8m' ?

Hope they've done a thorough medical, that sounds a bit like 'Jeesus, just get rid of him...'.

UCRC wrote:

Or before.

exactly. Was a great move by Arsenal to offload him for the 10m+ or whatever they got for him. Highly overrated. He can dribble and.......... yea thats about it.

on to the international friendlies which kinda fall at a nice time for Arsenal this time. Well assuming we dont pick up more injuries during them. Otherwise extra week for Nasri and RvP to recover without being forced to play a match.

the van der varrt deal seems to be going through but still not really impressed at all. I look at the Spurs lineup up and down and it just seems they have put together a team good enough to be in the top half of the league but nowhere higher then 6th unless other clubs stumble.

In a year where they are getting that extra CL money and need to make a real push to requalify they have added a backup keeper, Gallas and Van der Varrt...... there best bet might be getting to the round of 16 for some extra cash and bowing out to a tough opponent so they can concentrate solely on the league.

even with all the financial gloom Liverpool managed to shuffle their lineup and look ready to play ugly defensive football with Gerrard and Torres nabbing them enough wins to finish 4th or 5th.

8M is dirt-cheap. Sneijder should have been a lesson for them.

And yes, kind of money Barca paid for Hleb still makes me laugh. 17 million euros. That's one million short of Robinho. Aliaksandr Hleb.

We all laugh at the way Real spend money, but I don't see Barca being any better. Sporting director who isn't too closely affiliated with club would help. For me Guardiola has to be the worst world-class side manager when it comes to transfer market dealings. Case in point: Eto'o, Ibrahimović, Chygryńsky, Hleb, Yaya Toure. Only successful transfer during his reign so far was Dani Alves... for mere €40 million. Unless I'm forgetting someone. Villa and Mascherano will surely prove useful but they are two guys who were on their way out and Barca just picked them up, so I don't really see those guys as spirited signings.
Right? Wrong?

City's 25 man squad - even managed 12 (TWELVE) home grown players.

City have announced their list of 25 players for selection in the Barclays Premier League.

Mario Balotelli heads an extensive list of players aged under 21 who are also available for selection and due to their age did not have to take a place in the 25-man squad (below). Other players with first team experience aged under 21 are Dedryck Boyata, Greg Cunningham, Abdi Ibrahim and Alex Tchuimeni-Nimely.

A dozen of the 25 are classed as home-grown under Premier League rules, having spent at least three seasons with a club affiliated to the FA prior to their 21st birthdays, irrespective of their nationalities. The minimum number of home-grown players to achieve a 25-man squad had to be eight.

Roque Santa Cruz is in the 25, as is Michael Johnson, currently battling back from a cruciate knee ligament injury. There are no restrictions for selection for games in either the Carling Cup or the FA Cup.

The 25:

Keepers: Shay Given, Joe Hart, Stuart Taylor.

Defenders: Jerome Boateng, Wayne Bridge, Aleksander Kolarov, Vincent Kompany, Joleon Lescott, Shaleum Logan, Micah Richards, Kolo Toure, Pablo Zabaleta.

Midfielders: Gareth Barry, Nigel de Jong, Adam Johnson, Michael Johnson, James Milner, David Silva, Yaya Toure, Patrick Vieira, Shaun Wright-Phillips.

Forwards: Emmanuel Adebayor, Jo, Roque Santa Cruz, Carlos Tevez

R..... f....... since 2007

Arsenal: Manuel Almunia, Andrei Arshavin, Nicklas Bendtner, Marouane Chamakh, Gael Clichy, Denilson, Abou Diaby, Johan Djourou, Emmanuel Eboue, Lukasz Fabianski, Cesc Fabregas, Laurent Koscielny, Vito Mannone, Samir Nasri, Tomas Rosicky, Bacary Sagna, Alex Song, Robin van Persie, Thomas Vermaelen, Sebastien Squillaci.

(Arsenal can also use young players including: Theo Walcott, Jack Wilshere, Kieran Gibbs, Carlos Vela, Emmanuel Frimpong, Aaron Ramsey.)

NB: Arsenal have only 20 senior players over 21 and can make up their homegrown quota through youth players

all the players in the young players list qualify I think for home grown, maybe not Vela. 7 of the senior players do being Bendtner, Clichy, Djourou, Fabregas, Mannone, Denilson, and Song.

so yea if you look at those HG players it becomes obvious how silly this rule is. Arsenal have 7 senior players who qualify and 0 of them are from the UK. If anything clubs will put more emphasis on poaching foreign talent at younger ages.

I'd rather Arsenal didn't have UK homegrowns in their squad - after all, they've not exactly got a good track record in developing them.

Oh, and don't you think that naming a 20 man squad and 56 under-21's might just be seen as taking the piss ?

It might. So?

What with the number of injuries Arsenal players seem to get, they might need all those 76 players. I also think it might be to make a point to how stupid some of the rules are.

From memory, I think that most of the rules around 'x many players of y nationality have to play' were struck out because they conflicted with EU rules on restraint of trade. These rules about how many people have to be in the squad etc don't make any difference, as has been identified, although it may explain why Liverpool signed Paul Konchesky.

It's also a bit rich of that clown Gordon Taylor to start twining about them now - after all, they've been in the public domain for a good few months - they were in FM 2010 at least in version 3.

davet010 wrote:

I'd rather Arsenal didn't have UK homegrowns in their squad - after all, they've not exactly got a good track record in developing them.

Oh, and don't you think that naming a 20 man squad and 56 under-21's might just be seen as taking the piss ?

not Arsenals fault UK homegrowns are well crap... which is reflective in Englands NT which is crap....

However, the u-21s did reach the final of the European Championship, so they can't all be crap.

Zzzzzz the international break where such exciting games as Portugal vs Cyprus, Italy vs Estonia and Netherlands vs might San Marino take place!

not the best quality but here 3 videos of when I went to Maracana this summer!




I was assuming that you were referring to Tevez's effort from last week...

jowner wrote:

not the best quality but here 3 videos of when I went to Maracana this summer!

(UC's jealous.)

Wow, that's a mighty stupid title. EVERY kick of the ball leads to new equation. Anyway, appearance of actual footage in article redeems everything.

edit: Okay, everybody gather round, I want to tell you a joke.

UCRC wrote:

edit: Okay, everybody gather round, I want to tell you a joke.

Beat me to it, ya bastard.

Goodbye Brian. You were one of the men who lead me to the sport, one of the people who made me care about it, and you drew me to Fulham. Godspeed.

Not sure which was worse - getting beaten 1-0 at home by Belarus, or drawing 4-4 at home to Cyprus.

Well, at least Wayne has been scoring - just not on the pitch...


In other amusing news, Fergie is so convinced by his £7m Portuguese signing that he's not even bothered including him in their 25 man Euro squad, even though it's not exactly the hardest group in the world.

How ironic, City fan laughing at a big-money signing not getting into the squad.

UCRC wrote:

How ironic, City fan laughing at a big-money signing not getting into the squad.

Got any names for us, then ?

How unusual. Someone in this thread poking Dave with a stick just to see him froth at the mouth over City

[size=5]It really is why i keep coming back to this thread.[/size]

If you consider paying 25 million for your third-choice striker such a great deal, then no, I don't have an answer for you.
And if you're going to say that paying this kind of money for guy who probably isn't going to make first eleven (unless it's Carling Cup) is wise then so is paying seven million pounds or youngster who isn't going to be first team material for few seasons. No?

So no, then, you have no argument and thus require no answer. Thanks for the clarification.

Well, no doubt that has thrown the plans of Rangers, Valencia and Bursaspor into total disarray.

Aston Villa apparently soon to name Gerard Houllier as boss in some sort of 3 person structure.


There were a few Villa players apparently less than pleased by this prospect - both Brad Friedel and Stephen Warnock did not recall their time at Liverpool while he was boss with any great affection.

I'm crossing my fingers that he takes Phil Thomson as assistant, get him and his ludicrous Liverpool bias off Soccer Saturday.

Yeah, it's terrible when people become overly biased for clubs they love and try as hard as they can to uphold the clubs reputation in the public arena. :p

Unfortunately, I don't have access to a major media platform to do it, one in which I am presumably required to maintain at least some sort of objectivity or semi-intellectual analysis.

That's Sky's loss, to be honest, as even in my most drunken moments I couldn't hope to match Thompson's oft-punctured bias, Paul Merson's drug-fuelled incoherence or Charlie Nicholas's description of concepts with which he is completely unfamiliar (ie effort, winning, integrity, quality transfer buys...).

Unfortunately, my appearance would also necessitate Sky appointing lawyers willing to have Thorazine drips, which might be difficult