WoW BHA Monday Night Crew - Ruby Sanctum Tonight 12/6! Farewell to WotLK

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Current schedule:
Monday nights 7:00-10:00 server time (CST).
Meet in Vent on the "Cupcake Rocks!" Channel.

Here's the crew:

ELewis17
Lawkjaw- Pally

Cheeto
Openminded- Shaman

ZeroKFE
Zeroanne- Shaman

Cayle
Darkensky- DK

I know LM and Slytin have mics. Pop, Grenn and Cheeto?
Should we meet on Vent, or is the WoW voice chat good enough?

Vent.

I also reserve the right to ditch my damn squishy priest. I'm hoping she'll be more fun in a group. (not the first time I've thought that one.)

I can always go Holy if you don't like the priest, so that shouldn't be a problem.

My rogue is Drivest. He has more drive than anybody, which is good, because he is very short and his name was random.

I've got the crappy mic built into my monitor. It should work.

What is this "Vent" you speak of?

PopEsc wrote:

What is this "Vent" you speak of?

It is a voice chat service called Ventrillo. Here is the link to most all the info you'll need.

Points:

- "Built in mic" is tantamount to you saying you don't mind taking a crap in someone's ear. Buy a headset.
- Make sure if you're healing, you use an addon. I use HealBot, and like it quite a bit.
- Feel free to skip Mauradon when you get there. It is the devil.

Also: Monday Night WoW(tm) is a copyrighted term by RabbitIndustries. You guys totally have to call yourselves something else.

My character is a Human Rogue named Scathea, and ready to poke things from the rear.

PopEsc wrote:

I've got the crappy mic built into my monitor. It should work.

Michael Zenke wrote:

Points:
- "Built in mic" is tantamount to you saying you don't mind taking a crap in someone's ear. Buy a headset.

I use this. Works like a champ.

I can not provide a name due to lack or creation. I will say though, I have been playing WoW since Beta, so I know it pretty well if people have questions. If you do not like healing I have 0 problem healing on the shaman... enchancement does not get interesting till higher levels anyway.

Also, I am sure GWJ is okay with us using vent, but if not I do run my own server that I can offer up to use for this event also.

ELewis17 wrote:
PopEsc wrote:

I've got the crappy mic built into my monitor. It should work.

Michael Zenke wrote:

Points:
- "Built in mic" is tantamount to you saying you don't mind taking a crap in someone's ear. Buy a headset.

I use this. Works like a champ.

I use the same one, works perfectly.

Edit: This is a must read for vent users. Trust me, follow those instructions and you'll thank yourself later.

Serengeti wrote:

This is a must read for vent users. Trust me, follow those instructions and you'll thank yourself later.

In short, this makes all users the same volume.
Go one week playing with me and you'll wish you did this. The sound isolation in my headphones causes me to yell into my mic at times. I have some complex where I'm unable to speak normally unless I can hear myself. Thanks for the link. That needs a sticky, or a link in the OP in the Vent sticky.

I just looked at this thread more closely. You are tanking Ret? Would you rather me or someone go tank?

I'm going Prot. Must have been the beer...

Cheeto1016 wrote:

I will say though, I have been playing WoW since Beta, so I know it pretty well if people have questions.

Well, Hello Mr. Fancypants. Any mods I should have being a hunter? I'm rockin' Bartender, Quartz, Decursive, Combuctor (I LOVE this mod), Auctioneer, and BigWigs as my main stuff. Also some smaller convenience ones like hit assist and cartographer. Although, I'm tempted to re-up Questhelper as we're leveling again but its kind of heavy and the new map and quest system in game seem pretty solid. Also, any hints towards what pets i should tame and talents specs would be nice.

Sidebar: Its kind of weird being lvl 5 and having 200g and all Netherweave bags.

I'm going to change my character. I will now be playing a Dwarven warrior, HarmerTime. We don't need two rogues.

I have a nice Hunter mod. I'll get the name when I get home. It reminds you to swap Aspects when your mana is low or too high to warrant a certain aspect.

The pets have been severely simplified since the last hunter I played before 3.x.x. Given that we have a warrior in the group now, and assuming he'll function as the off-tank, you should go for a DPS pet over a balanced or tank type pet. I forget the three names, Tanacity is the balanced one I think.

Any mods I should have being a hunter?

I know you didn't actually ask me, but since hunter is my class of choice I'll go ahead and butt in.

These days there really isn't anything hunter specific that you'll want, especially at early level. Once upon a time you might have wanted something to help with feed pet and tracking pet happiness, and maybe you still will if you can't get the mend pet minor glyph right at level 10 (which is when you will get your pet). Now, though, get that glyph and heal him from time to time and you should be golden.

I know some people like to have custom mods for managing aspects, tracking types, or traps, but I do all that with Bartender and macros. The only mods that I find essential to good high level hunter play are general things -- a button bar mod, a unit frame mod, a cast bar mod, something to help you keep better track of your cooldowns and buffs (I use PowerAuras and SexyCooldowns myself), DBM or Bigwigs, and (of course) a performance analysis tool like recount. Again, though, that's all stuff I'm sure you have installed from playing your other high level characters.

No, what you really need that's hunter specific are macros and keybinds. Get a pet management macro for sure, a macro for toggling aspects, and (much later when you learn the skill) a misdirect macro. Also, be aware of what shots and abilities can be macro'd in with your common shots and which cooldown can be combined in macros, but that is all going to change depending on what spec you go with and what abilities you have available at any given level. As for keybinds, there is a lot that is up to personal preference but one thing I personally think is mandatory as a hunter is to have keybinds for send and recall pet that are right next you your own movement keys. I use WASD for my own movement, and Z and X are my pet movement. This will let you always be in control of where your pet is, and let you avoid having people be angry at you for you pet being in the wrong place.

I have a nice Hunter mod. I'll get the name when I get home. It reminds you to swap Aspects when your mana is low or too high to warrant a certain aspect

This is actually an excellent point. Knowing what aspect you currently have active and knowing when you should change it is central to good hunter play. Personally, I use PowerAuras to track this information along with other buff and cooldown information. Have I mentioned how goddamn awesome PowerAuras is?

Also, any hints towards what pets i should tame and talents specs would be nice.

The definitive resource for everything pet related: http://www.wow-petopia.com/

The three types of pets:

Ferocity: DPS focused pets. They have talents that make them the only type you want for group play, unless you REALLY need your pet to be a strong off tank. They are also fine for soloing, even though tenacity pet are better. If you only have one pet, it should be a ferocity pet. In the endgame, wolfs are currently king as their special ability is an AP buff for themselves and the hunter. At lower levels just tame whatever you like (or whatever has a special ability you like), as you really don't need to worry about min maxing so much.

Tenacity: Tank pets. They have talents that make them tough and can hold aggro on multiple mobs once you get the thunderstomp talent (I don't think you'll have the pet talent points for that until level 30 or 40 or so). If you have two pets, one should be ferocity and the other should be tenacity, and if I was leveling a new hunter, I'd have at least two pets. Bears and crocolisks make ideal tenacity pets since their special abilities will also provide AOE threat, but other than that once again pick what appeals to you or has an ability that sounds cool.

Cunning: PvP/special utility pets. Their talent tree is designed to let them provide niche functionality. Unless you plan to PvP as you level, you'll probably want to stick to the other two types of pets, but if you do take a liking to a particular cunning pet you'll probably still be just fine for leveling.

Oh, a friendly tip for a hunter in a group setting - release / unsummon your pet before you jump down that awesome shortcut in [insert instance here], your pet will go down the long way, pulling every mob on the way to you and your group

Well it looks like Zero is all over that I am not a big add-on person. I do use them... just as little as possible. I have Healbot up on all my toons (just cause i never disable it from non healing toons) and recount and DBM and mandatory mods.. but I like simple. I just make lots of macros.

I guess I am old school due to playing back then.

I was going to suggest Petopoia, but Zero already did that. I also like to use weird pets that most people do not use. So I used Clackle (my crab) most of leveling up...cause until about level 50, he could do more damage then my ferocity pet cause thunderstomp was AOE and crit all the time. I switched then to a moth, just cause I thought it would really be annoying having a moth attack you or follow you in PvP. I do not play my hunter in raids though, so it is a fun and mess around toon.

Awesome advice. Looks like I'll be playing around with this stuff this weekend. Thanks guys.

Hey guys...I haven't played in a few months but I'm going to resub this weekend. I've got a warrior in BOA gear around 12 or so that I can bring to the party. Can't remember the toons name but if you see Aquemini/Blackguarde online thats me. The group looks heavy on mdps so I wouldn't mind rolling a mage either.

Week days I'll be around around after 8 (the later the better).

Aries wrote:

Oh, a friendly tip for a hunter in a group setting - release / unsummon your pet before you jump down that awesome shortcut in [insert instance here], your pet will go down the long way, pulling every mob on the way to you and your group :)

Alternately, use Eyes of the Beast to walk the pet down the right way, put it on Stay, cancel the spell and walk down yourself. (And put pet back on follow).

Forgive my noobness, but what does BHA stand for?

PopEsc wrote:

Forgive my noobness, but what does BHA stand for?

Blackhand (Server) Alliance

mindset.threat wrote:

Hey guys...I haven't played in a few months but I'm going to resub this weekend. I've got a warrior in BOA gear around 12 or so that I can bring to the party. Can't remember the toons name but if you see Aquemini/Blackguarde online thats me. The group looks heavy on mdps so I wouldn't mind rolling a mage either.

Week days I'll be around around after 8 (the later the better).

I'm not sure the best way to incorporate over five people into a regular group. If you wouldn't mind being an alternate that'd be great. I'm moving on April 23rd and don't know if I'll be available to play on the 26th. Your warrior would likely be able to fill my role, if you're interested.

ELewis17 wrote:

I'm not sure the best way to incorporate over five people into a regular group. If you wouldn't mind being an alternate that'd be great. I'm moving on April 23rd and don't know if I'll be available to play on the 26th. Your warrior would likely be able to fill my role, if you're interested.

Psst... we have 6 already. Is that a problem?

I am sure we will not have everyone every week. I know I have a bowling banquet coming up and it is on a monday. I believe April 26th? Things come up, you never know.

Over 5 we can always PvP for a change of pace (pvp gives xp now) or rotate people. I have absolutly no problem sitting out. I can still keep up in leveling. Which brings me to....

I made my toon last night. Openminded is the name, I hit level 14. Just a few more quests and I will be at the 15 mark for Monday. I hope to be able to do that Sat. evening or Sunday evening. I have a lot of yard work to do while the weather is nice this weekend.

PopEsc wrote:

Psst... we have 6 already. Is that a problem?

Michael Zenke in the original thread wrote:

The thing that's really helped us is that we actually have 6 people in the static group, with one 'floater'. That way if someone has to wave off for the week, we're covered. Some weeks we just get together and do some leveling if more than that have to wave off. Sometimes we have lulls, but we've been going strong for quite a while now. :D

'Life' happens to so many people that I imagine that every week at least one of the six people will have something else they need to do one our scheduled day. It'd be awesome if we could get another few people and run another group on a different night. That way we could all kinda float around, but I'm sure scheduling that would be a nightmare.

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